Intelligence Agency Involvement in 9/11 Attacks

This is the bombshell I've been waiting to drop.




Did Bush know?:Warning Signs of 9-11 and Intelligence Failures

This is an excerpt from Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed's book "The War on Freedom." I have not read it, but it seems very informative. Below is a summary of the book.

Using Planes as Bombs

The Pentagon commissioned an expert panel in 1993 to investigate the possibility of an airplane being used to bomb national landmarks. Retired Air Force Col. Doug Menarchik, who organised the $150,000 study for the Defense Department’s Office of Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, recalled: “It was considered radical thinking, a little too scary for the times. After I left, it met a quiet death.” Other participants have noted that the decision not to publish detailed scenarios issued to some extent from fear that this may give terrorists ideas. Nevertheless, a draft document detailing the results of the investigation was circulated through the Pentagon, the Justice Department and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Senior agency officials decided against a public release.

Al-Qaeda’s Plans: Project Bojinka

Western intelligence had been aware of plans for such terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as early as 1995. Both the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) had detailed information about the possible use of hijack/suicide attacks by terrorists connected to Osama bin Laden. The New York Times reported that:

“In 1994, two jetliners were hijacked by people who wanted to crash them into buildings, one of them by an Islamic militant group. And the 2000 edition of the FAA’s annual report on Criminal Acts Against Aviation, published this year, said that although Osama bin Laden ‘is not known to have attacked civil aviation, he has both the motivation and the wherewithal to do so,’ adding, ‘Bin Laden’s anti-Western and anti-American attitudes make him and his followers a significant threat to civil aviation, particularly to U.S. civil aviation.’”

I don't know if I believe all of the details of this particular topic because we happened to fund Bin Laden and al Qaeda. However, if al Qaeda really did attack the WTC then the CIA surely knew about it ahead of time.

After all, Bin Laden had been on the CIA's payroll for years.




This right here is the most striking part of this entire article by far. Read it and weep Bush/Cheney. I know you've set your dogs after me already.

High-Level Government Blocks on Intelligence Investigations

There is good reason to believe that the FBI’s failure to apprehend suspected terrorists, who were linked to bin Laden and operating within the U.S., was the result of high-level blocks from the FBI command and Justice Department. Evidence for this comes from the authoritative testimony of U.S. attorney David Philip Schippers, former Chief Investigative Counsel for the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, and head prosecutor responsible for conducting the impeachment against former President Bill Clinton. His long record of impeccable expertise and extensive experience makes him a highly credible source.

Two days after the attacks, Schippers went public in an interview with WRRK in Pittsburgh, PA., stating that he had attempted to warn U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, along with other federal officials, about the terrorist attacks weeks before they occurred. He stated that he had received information from U.S. intelligence sources, including FBI agents, that a massive attack was being planned by terrorists, targeting the financial arteries of lower Manhattan. Schippers had attempted to bring this information to the attention of John Ashcroft, six weeks before the tragedy of Black Tuesday. Schippers went public again in October 2001, reiterating that, several months prior to September, impeccable sources in the U.S. intelligence community, including agents of the U.S. government’s law enforcement agency, the FBI, had approached him with information about the impending attacks.

According to Schippers, these agents knew, months before the 11th September attacks, the names of the hijackers, the targets of their attacks, the proposed dates, and the sources of their funding, along with other information. At least two weeks prior to 11th September, the FBI agents again confirmed that an attack on lower Manhattan, orchestrated by Osama bin Laden, was imminent. However, the FBI command cut short their investigations into the impending terrorist attacks and those involved, threatening the agents with prosecution under the National Security Act if they publicised information pertaining to their investigations.

So what do you think? Its really too coincidental.

Massive intelligence failures....

No my friends, this was intelligence INVOLVEMENT!!!

Multiple Intelligence Warnings Converged on 11th September

As September neared, multiple authoritative intelligence warnings surfaced with increasing intensity, warning of a terrorist attack against the U.S. We should recall that in response to ECHELON’s warnings, U.S. intelligence agencies were already on alert for evidence of a very specific Project Bojinka-style operation, which would target key buildings in Washington and New York. The White House National Coordinator for Counterterrorism, based on CIA confirmation, had alerted all domestic security and intelligence agencies of an impending Al-Qaeda attack, to be implemented in several weeks time, at the beginning of July. According to Chief Investigative Counsel David Schippers, U.S. sources had informed him as early as May that the intelligence community had credible information of an imminent attack targeting the “financial district of lower Manhattan,” and that intelligence officers throughout the country were frustrated by high-level blocks on investigations and information. The FBI appears to have had specific information indicating that the World Trade Centre was thus the most probable target. Against this background, the multiple warnings of an impending attack by Osama bin Laden from a variety of credible authorities should have increasingly reinforced the overall intelligence confirmation of the attacks.

11th September Warnings Were Not Ignored by U.S. Authorities

Indeed, there is evidence that the threat was not ignored, at least not in certain selected respects. The San Francisco Chronicle reported one day after the attacks that Mayor Willie Brown received a phone call eight hours before the hijackings from what he described as his air security staff, warning him not to travel by air:

“For Mayor Willie Brown, the first signs that something was amiss came late Monday when he got a call from what he described as his airport security—a full eight hours before yesterday’s string of terrorist attacks—advising him that Americans should be cautious about their air travel… Exactly where the call came from is a bit of a mystery. The mayor would say only that it came from ‘my security people at the airport.’”

So not everyone was in A). denial or B). involved.

The U.S. Intelligence Community (involvement)

As early as 1995, the U.S. had information relating to the plans to launch air attacks on the World Trade Center—information that was repeatedly confirmed by the American intelligence community since then, all the way to the year 2001. Yet these agencies neglected almost entirely to do anything to prevent or prepare for these attacks as far as the general public was concerned. Indeed, all such possible measures were cut short. Such was the case with the investigations by FBI agents confirming the impending 11th September terrorist attacks, whose leads were severed by the FBI command without explanation—a situation apparently maintained with the complicity of the Attorney General, a Presidential appointee. The U.S. government’s leading law enforcement agency thus deliberately ignored its own findings, and blocked these findings from being publicised.

Apparently this slipped under the radar so let me repost it:

The U.S. Intelligence Community (involvement)

As early as 1995, the U.S. had information relating to the plans to launch air attacks on the World Trade Center—information that was repeatedly confirmed by the American intelligence community since then, all the way to the year 2001. Yet these agencies neglected almost entirely to do anything to prevent or prepare for these attacks as far as the general public was concerned. Indeed, all such possible measures were cut short. Such was the case with the investigations by FBI agents confirming the impending 11th September terrorist attacks, whose leads were severed by the FBI command without explanation—a situation apparently maintained with the complicity of the Attorney General, a Presidential appointee. The U.S. government’s leading law enforcement agency thus deliberately ignored its own findings, and blocked these findings from being publicised.

Well looks like I found a direct connection to the moving company the Israeli intelligence agents were caught in on 911.

Urban moving systems

Five Israeli men working for the Urban Moving Systems company had been arrested on 9/11 over suspicions that they had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks (see 3:56 p.m. September 11, 2001), and now two more Israeli men working for the same company are arrested. The two men, Roy Barak and Motti Butbul, are driving one of their company’s moving vans in northern Pennsylvania when they are pulled over and arrested at around noon on September 12, 2001.

Urban moving systems was/is a front for Mossad

Officer Scott DeCarlo and Sgt. Dennis Rivelli approach the van and demand the driver exit the vehicle. The driver, Sivan Kurzberg, does not obey after being asked several more times, so the police physically remove Kurzberg and four other men from the van and handcuff them. They have not been told the reasons for their arrest, but Kurzberg tells them, “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.” Again before the police have made any mention of the 9/11 attacks, another one of the arrested men says, “[W]e were on the West Side Highway in New York City during the incident.” In fact, it will later be determined they were on the roof of a building at Liberty State Park, watching and videotaping the first crash into the WTC

Typical disinfo from the Israelis. We are not your problem, the Palestinians are. Look away. Sound familiar?

Investigative Reporter Breaks Israeli 9/11 Foreknowledge

Haas details in his expose how in October 2000, approximately 11 months prior to September 11, 2001, a former Israeli Defense Force member and veteran of the Yom Kippur War overheard a conversation at the Gomel Chesed Cemetery, located in Newark, NJ., concerning the attacks and spoken in Hebrew between three men.

“The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September.” Hass's contact said he heard one of the men say. After 11 months of desperately attempting to alert the authorities and being systematically ignored all along the line, the contact watched in horror as the attacks unfolded exactly as he had overheard.

"The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September."

That is a very suspicious statement clearly indicating 911. Was it actually said by this man? I don't know as I wasn't there. However, considering the Israelis videotaped 911 and certainly had prior knowledge, I would not be surprised they actually pulled it off.

Who gains from 911?

Israel. The Israeli regime is propped up with American tax dollars. They also have enemies surrounding them (perceived threats or real, but nonetheless they exist).

Saddam wasn't a threat, but Iran is/was. The Israelis from the beginning wanted non-Israeli troops to protect their little state because they don't have the manpower to fight all the Middle Eastern states.

With the American military in nearby Afghanistan and Iraq, the Israelis are protected from pretty much every kind of onslaught imaginable. Not to mention our Air Force and Navy protecting the skies and sea.




This part below is one of the most fascinating I've read so far:

Haas revealed on air that he had been asked by a reader to contact the source, who has asked to remain anonymous for fear of his own safety, as he had in depth information about prior knowledge of the attacks and no one would listen to him.

Haas stated:

"I approached this individual as if his story was BS, you know that's kind of how I had to approach it, is this guy might be a nutcase, let's follow through though and see if his story starts to have merit, and it did. I reached a point where I felt as though this guy has some information based on his documentation and it smells like more cover up to me."

The source also told Haas that one of the men he overheard expressed concerns regarding whether the upcoming presidential election (November 2000) between Bush / Cheney and Gore / Lieberman could impact the plans. Another man, he believed to be the most senior of the three, replied “Don’t worry, we have people in high places and no matter who gets elected, they will take care of everything.”

The source also reported to Haas that he overheard one of the three men say, “The Arabs are so stupid. They don’t even imagine that we are using them.”

The bolded text is in reference to the Israeli agents tracking the "Al Qaeda" operatives.

I am starting to believe Israel tricked these men in some way to be the scape goat for the 911 attacks.

Whether or not they flew the planes into the buildings is really a mute point.

911 Hijackers alive

A first letter advised the source to contact the Newark FBI division which he did several times with no response.

Upon writing to the FBI a second time, a further response informed the source that the FBI would not be able to do anything on his behalf.

Very suspicious...

reply to post by biggie smalls


"Revealing the Lies" on 9/11 Perpetuates the "Big Lie"

The Bush administration had numerous intelligence warnings. "Revealing the lies" of Bush officials regarding these "intelligence warnings" has served to uphold Al Qaeda as the genuine threat, as an "outside enemy", which threatens the security of America, when in fact Al Qaeda is a creation of the US intelligence apparatus.

America’s leaders in Washington and Wall Street firmly believe in the righteousness of war and authoritarian forms of government as a means to "safeguarding democratic values".

9/11 is the justification.

According to Homeland Security "the near-term attacks will either rival or exceed the 9/11 attacks".

An actual "terrorist attack" on American soil would lead to the suspension of civilian government and the establishment of martial law. In the words of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge: "If we go to Red [code alert]... it basically shuts down the country,"

"You ask, 'Is it serious?' Yes, you bet your life. People don't do that unless it's a serious situation." (Donald Rumsfeld)

The "Criminalization of the State", is when war criminals legitimately occupy positions of authority, which enable them to decide "who are the criminals", when in fact they are the criminals.

Wait, there's more.

We know that the Bush administration had numerous "intelligence warnings". We know they had "intelligence" which confirmed that terrorists had the capacity of hijacking aircrafts and using them to target buildings.

Attorney General John Ashcroft had apparently been warned in August 2001 by the FBI to avoid commercial airlines, but this information was not made public. (See Eric Smith at www.globalresearch.ca... )

The Pentagon had conducted a full fledged exercise on an airplane crashing into the Pentagon.(See globalresearch.ca... )

We also know that senior Bush officials including Donald Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice lied under oath to the 9/11 commission, when they stated that they had no information or forewarning of impending terrorist attacks.

But we also know, from carefully documented research that:

There were stand-down orders on 9/11. The US Air force did not intervene. see www.globalresearch.ca... , Szamuely at www.globalresearch.ca... )

There was a cover-up of the WTC and Pentagon investigation. The WTC rubble was confiscated. (See Bill Manning at www.globalresearch.ca...

The plane debris at the Pentagon disappeared. (See Thierry Meyssan, www.globalresearch.ca... )

Massive financial gains were made as a result of 9/11, from insider trading leading up to 9/11 (See Michael Ruppert, www.globalresearch.ca... .)

There is an ongoing financial scam underlying the 7.1 billion dollar insurance claim by the WTC leaseholder, following the collapse of the twin towers (See Michel Chossudovsky, www.globalresearch.ca...

Mystery surrounds WTC building 7, which collapsed (or was "pulled" down in the afternoon of 9/11 mysteriously (For details see WTC-7: (Scott Loughrey at www.globalresearch.ca... ).

The White House is being accused by the critics of "criminal negligence", for having casually disregarded the intelligence presented to president Bush and his national security team, and for not having acted to prevent the 9/11 terrorist attack.

I am bumping this thread to the top to see if anyone can debunk the claims I have made.

You can't because there is too much evidence pointing to government involvement. It just so happens that there was a war game on 911 involving the same event that happened.

Lt. Col. Dawne Deskins figured it would be a long day.
Sept. 11 was Day II of "Vigilant Guardian," an exercise that would pose an imaginary crisis to North American Air Defense outposts nationwide. The simulation would run all week, and Deskins, starting her 12-hour shift in the Operations Center as the NORAD unit's airborne control and warning officer, might find herself on the spot.

Day I of the simulation had moved slowly. She hoped the exercise gathered steam. It made a long day go faster.

8:40 A.M.: REAL WORLD
In the Ops Center, three rows of radar scopes face a high wall of wide-screen monitors. Supervisors pace behind technicians who peer at the instruments. Here it is always
quiet, always dark, except for the green radar glow.

At 8:40, Deskins noticed senior technician Jeremy Powell waving his hand. Boston Center was on the line, he said. It had a hijacked airplane.

"It must be part of the exercise," Deskins thought.

At first, everybody did. Then Deskins saw the glowing direct phone line to the Federal Aviation Administration.
- "Amid Crisis Simulation, 'We Were Suddenly No-Kidding Under Attack'"
by Hart Seely, Newhouse News Service, January 25, 2002

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The US National Reconnaissance Office, which operates spy satellites, was conducting a simulation of a plane crash into their headquarters (near Dulles Airport in Virginia) on September 11!

This war game was not a "terrorism" exercise - but it did simulate a plane going off course (on the approach to nearby Dulles Airport) and crashing into the NRO's headquarters, control center for US spy satellites. This war game was to test the emergency response procedures in the event of this type of accident, and included practice evacuation of the buildings. It is very damning that the war game planners (of all of the war games, not merely this one) ensured that the NRO's headquarters was largely evacuated at precisely the time that 9/11 was taking place, which minimized the number of officials who were able to monitor the events via the Pentagon's satellite intelligence systems.

source

On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day. Information is the most powerful tool available in the homeland security effort. At the core of every initiative currently underway to protect our country and its citizens is the challenge of getting the right information to the right people at the right time. How can so much information from around the world be captured and processed in meaningful and timely ways? Mr. Fulton shares his insights into the intelligence community, and shares a vision of how today's information systems will be developed into even better counter-terrorism tools of tomorrow.

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At least 3 convenient war games coinciding with a "terrorist" attack. This is no coincidence. How would Al Qaeda know about these war games unless someone in the government told them? There is no way.

Originally posted by Infoman
In any court, you would get laughed out with this kind of evidence.

Actually its the official story that would get laughed out of court becasue there is no evidecne to support it and lots of reasonable doubt has been brought up.

I believe it was Richard Clarke who said the war games exercises actually "enhanced their ability to respond." So, had they not been running the war games, who knows what else could have been possible. So, actually the response, or lack there of, was supposedly better than expected. Makes you wonder what our $400 billion really bought us.

I agree with you Biggie that various member of various agencies were involved. I read somewhere, and I can try to find a link, that stated the Israeli's arrested with the Urban Moving van also had fake Saudi passports. I would like to see the footage they filmed. I think it is possible they could have been filming the aftermath of the first hit, but if they have footage of the plane going into the tower, then they are guilty. However, for them to be celebrating is very peculiar and puts them closer to the guilty side than innocent. But the fact that they were dressed as Arabs, filming the attack, possessing fake passports, working for a company whose quick departure indicates very suspicious behavior, in a van that tests positive for explosives, and indicate immediately to police the Palestinians are guilty, that goes a little further than circumstantial. So why were they released and nothing more mentioned?

I believe Mohammed Atta was working with the CIA as a drug runner, and was used unwillingly in the attacks. He was already a certified pilot, so why he was at a flight school seems to be a mystery. I'm not sure of the other hijackers involvement with any agencies, but I believe they were used also. These guys lived openly in the US, and it seems any investigations into them was thwarted. Most entered the country using the "Express Visa" program. A program only offered the the Saudi's, and not our other allies. I believe the members of these agencies designed the plan and told these guys they were making a "trial" run to test and see if it could be done. I believe they were probably told it was a military exercise to help them to prevent this kind of thing from happening. That would explain why some hijackers had made plans after 9/11. I do believe the planes were hijacked remotely. That is why there were so many witnesses to other planes in the area. The planes seemed to go right to there destinations, despite being flown manually by amateur pilots.

Originally posted by biggie smallsOperation Northwoods

Official US government Northwoods text

This is only one of the smoking guns on 9/11.

Decades old declassified documents of a plan the USA rejected? You have an awfully low threshold for what constitutes a smoking gun.

Here is something I saved that might help. It goes pretty far back but when I started seeing 911 websites vanishing a while back, I started importing all of them for posterity.

This one may be used as a benchmark to cross referances other actions with dates and times etc to corroborate what you might be working on.


ultramedia.freehostia.com...

Enjoy

- Con

PS: Oh yeah,, Big, you might wanna resize those images lol


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As there's been about 100 "smoking guns", I'm not too worried that you think Operation Northwoods is not.

Just the fact the idea made any headway is enough to lead me to believe this plan was never put to rest, and certainly enough to make me worried about false flag operations.

Pearl Harbor was let to happen. We knew about it, but we wanted to go to war.

The same could be said about 911, even if you believe the official government conspiracy theory. Two wars have resulted from 1 attack. That is no coincidence.

Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were planned before the 911 attacks. That is also no coincidence.

Thanks for trying to derail the thread at hand. Next time read the OP and provide EVIDENCE.

You have given no such evidence.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
As there's been about 100 "smoking guns", I'm not too worried that you think Operation Northwoods is not.

I haven't seen any smoking guns. You melodramatically claim you're dropping a "bombshell," and then all we get is that the Pentagon commissioned an expert panel in 1993 to investigate the possibility of an airplane being used to bomb national landmarks. How you make the leap from that to the government being behind 9/11 is beyond me. The Pentagon has commissioned thousands of reports over the years dealing with all manner of attacks from the outlandish to the pedestrian. No surprise. It's their job to try to be prepared for all manner of attacks.

The idea that they deliberately attacked the Pentagon is absurd. As if the attacks on the WTC towers alone weren't horrific enough to justify military action.

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So who should we believe ClashWho? A new Drive By poster or these guys?

Now if you have some really kickass credentials; I might reconsider.


www.patriotsquestion911.com...




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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999

Give me a break. Im going to plan and stage the most heinous terrorist attack ever, plan to run in my own country


He was on the board of directors, not the CEO. Plus, he left Securacom before his brother was even the GOP nominee for President.

Yeah, so, he got the job done and left, why he left could be just as obvious but that's not the point. The point is, the Bush's have been involved in high finance crime as far back as I can remember where they were just involved long enough to leave just before the fertilizer hit the fan. Just look at the S&L scandal of the early eighties when they got their hands caught in the cookie jar.

The more time goes by, the more dirt you skeptics who for God only knows why anymore STILL defend that CROOK, yeah he is CROOK. Big hasn't said he planned it, staged it but to think he wasn't a benificiary in some way with prior knowledge of it is truth denied.

I swear if some of you guys got caught red handed cheating on your wives, you'd have them all committed for driving them nuts saying You were imagining things honey. What you saw, heard, felt, what others have told you is all in your mind. At least in THAT case I can understand the weird strange motive to defend the transgression but THIS guy?

This ,, BUSH guy?? The only thing each and everyone of us owes THAT guy is a Bust in the mouth and a long vacation in jail. If we used the same prosecution tactic they used to convict theodore bundy of all his serial murders just by connecting the dots to events, times and circumstances in relation to the odds and statistics their could only be a 99.9.999999 chance he was involved.

And in NEITHER case were the options the HIGHEST that had been placed on either airline that year. On several other occasions, large numbers of options were placed that year. Go back and study their press releases for August 2001. BOTH airlines were release information about their perfomance....and NONE of it was good. A savvy options investor would have placed options, because with all the bad news coming from the airlines it was a cinch their stocks were going to drop.

It's just a dot guy and that is all it is but when you put them all togther you see more unbeleivably accurate arrows going on that day and the several days prior to it than all the proven conspiracies with less evidence making them bona fide fact then all of them combined. ONE would EXPECT some event of what you call this magnitude, to be easily figured out and it should be because it was so big. The fact that we have had to fight past skeptics for so many years is why it has taken so damn long but one thing I can say with certainty, is that SOB Bush is going to get BUSTED and that day is coming as sure as the sun is coming up the next day, his comeuppance is is just around the corner.

That phrase was used by President Wilson long before President Bush used it.

So what, the difference is BUSH is the one that actually tried making one and where did wilson (also a globalist) say it to congress? he was just saying it to promote is asinine league of nations idea.
www.probe.org...

With the attack happening over 1,000 miles away from him, the DUMBEST thing to do would be to rush him out of the building prior to conducting a sweep of the area to ensure that no one was outside waiting for just such a rash move. Thats what the Secret Service did. They had the President inside a building and safe, so they reswept the area for snipers, bombs etc...before they moved him.

Guy where on EARTH do you get this BUNK when I first heard this argument as this isn't the first time Ive seen this one used by deniers, I asked my father who was in charge of LBJ's security working with secret service whenever he was in Chicago.

They don't WAIT for something to happen before they do a sweep guy, it is done far in advance and continues to be done the whole time the president is there furthermore getting him OUT of there and where he would need to be is THE FIRST thing they would have done. They have decoys, stand in's and a myriad of other tactics to get him where he is supposed to be and I find it a little too hard to believe the so called sweep they had to do was finished just as the bell rang for the NEXT CLASS.

Not only that but preparations just like that are made at EVERY presidential stop for JUST such an occasion so get off it, that dog wont hunt.

And we all know he uses perfect grammar at all times. He was referring to the fact that all the news stations were showing the first burning tower and talking about how it was reportedly a 737 that had hit the building. NOT that he actually SAW the first plane hit. Just that he had saw the NEWS.

did he or did he NOT say, "when I saw the first plane hit my first thoughts were pilot error" Don't use his inabilty to complete a proper sentence as an excuse when WE can easily say, "since it was the only time he has ever said a sentence correctly, it must have been on commited to memory and rehearsed for the plant in the audience. Jeez man if you want to manufacture excuses for the imbecile SO CAN WE.

Just what is it about skeptics that we have to box such a liar in so tight it is undeniable he is an absolute LIAR.

Must I have to shame you into accepting the truth?

Here is the truth guy

Ready?

Bush said he saw the first plane hit the tower on TV not once but TWICE The first time was on Dec. 4, 2001

actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." But I was whisked off there

Then again

"how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?"

"you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on"

Obviously on?? Do you know what time it was in FLA when the first plane hit? I mean this stuff is academic man HE LIED can you admit that or do you need more "Proof"

Ok Ready?

"What was the first thing that went through your head when you heard that a plane crashed into the first building?"

"Well, I was sitting in a schoolhouse in Florida. I had gone down to tell my little brother what to do, and -- just kidding, Jeb. (Laughter.) And -- it's the mother in me. (Laughter.) Anyway, I was in the midst of learning about a reading program that works. I'm a big believer in basic education, and it starts with making sure every child learns to read. And therefore, we need to focus on the science of reading, not what may feel good or sound good when it comes to teaching children to read. (Applause.) I'm just getting a plug in for my reading initiative.

Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on."

Now lets break it down shall we,, lets find out just what Bush "heard" what he "saw" and what he "felt"


Bush himself makes the distinction between what he heard and what he saw on both occassions.

"...how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?"

"...you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on..."

"What was the first thing that went through your head when you heard that a plane crashed into the first building?"


Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on."

He is a liar and a charlatan

Bush Liar
Case Closed:

This is one of the most ARROGANT statements that continues to show up on ATS. They are hiding in caves...they MUST be stupid. Its that kind of arrogance that led so many mid level bureaucrats to NOT believe something like this was possible.

Oh so now it's OUR fault the mid level bereaucrats were so left in the dark because we were already discussing them hiding in caves before the cave thing was "in style". Ive been to the middle east guy, and ya know what,, with all due respect to people from there,, they ain't the sharpest knives in the drawer unless they get out of there and get educated here. The only real intelligence going on is for those that are wealthy and they ain't the ones they talk into crashing jets into buildings.

True, NOW look at the pictures/video of the OTHER side of WTC 7 to see all the damage and fires that were raging on the side of the building that got clobbered by WTC 1 during its collapse.

Oh this is like a slap in the face when someone trys to tell me wtc 7 wasn't a CD and we may as well not make steel frame buildings with sprinklers systems and fire retardent if they come down THAT EASY. We better start getting people out of them as fast as possible or someone is going to huff and puff and blow them all down they come down that easy. Give it a rest guy, NO ONE buys that bunk anymore except those with a better motive to defend it than their personal integrity having something to do with?? oh I don't know exactly? Can anyone guess. So in that regard rather than get myself in a tirade for insulting my intelligence Ill just let you simmer in your ignorance.

Sorry Big,, I just couldn't let this one slide, I know you don't have time to refute these so I figured I'd lift one for ya .

- Con

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Originally posted by whaaa
reply to post by ClashWho

 

So who should we believe ClashWho? A new Drive By poster or these guys?

Now if you have some really kickass credentials; I might reconsider.


www.patriotsquestion911.com...

You should believe me because I'm right. My credentials are that I have a discerning mind coupled with an excellent BS detector. For example, your link above crows that a whole twenty-five former military officers question 9/11. Twenty-five! Holy Moly! You know how many former military officers there are? Hundreds of thousands. You want to be persuaded by a fraction of one percent? Trust me, plenty of officers are idiots, but it's not 99.9 percent of them.

easy......

CIA and Israel are the main suspect i believed. But its true.

People are blind now but they will not in the future.They will know the truth behind the 9/11.

Actually CIA do it but they faster cover up, hmmmmm... smart arent they?

CIA also got links to Osama bin laden about 9/11 b4 the incident took place. Its all logic. Is that ppl never think of wat they accuse of.

False flag operation...

An hour later, at 1:27 p.m. Washington time, Herrick sent a cable in which he admitted that the attack may never have happened and that there may actually have been no Vietnamese naval craft in the area: "Review of action makes many reported contacts and torpedoes fired appear doubtful. Freak weather effects on radar and overeager sonarmen may have accounted for many reports. No actual visual sightings by Maddox. Suggest complete evaluation before any further action taken"

An incident that never happened grants the President wartime powers...

As a result of his testimony, on 7 August, Congress passed a joint resolution (H.J. RES 1145), titled the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which granted President Johnson the authority to conduct military operations in Southeast Asia without the benefit of a declaration of war. The Resolution gave President Johnson approval "to take all necessary steps, including the use of armed force, to assist any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty requesting assistance in defense of its freedom."

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Although I am not so bold to say this in itself is proof I say it fits the MO. “Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it” and all that.

Looks like they could still be operating together, between these events there is a trend developing.

The task was given to a joint covert team of CIA, ISI and MI5…..

After quick planning, Zardari was tapped in to get rid of Benazir……

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It was the day

Benazir had decided to a clever trick on Americans, British and Pakistani govt….

Mush was getting angry as Benazir was giving him a hard time after Chief justice issue rose to Pakistani Politics…….

The three decided to take Benazir out…………. Americans, British and Pakistani govt


Excerpts from the diary of an officer ” Who Killed Benazir ”