IBM To Build Computer to Run the Entire Internet

Great!

All we need is some IT geek to trip over the power cord.

Becker

I think there needs to be a Civilian Internet Initiative that is independent of government influence. Infrastructure free of government contracts and money. A global system by the people for the people. The internet is the only place socialism works. It is the only place where thought can be freely exchanged, and it is NOT something we can allow them to take away.

And they called it the Beast and it's number was 666...

Yes er I mean to say that would be a beast of an undertaking to centralize all of the separate networks into one conglomerate.

Wonder how it will affect free thinking sites such as ATS/BTS/PTS? Ooopps, server down again and again?

Actually when you consider that all of the satellite systems were moved into one centralized location without any fanfare and people never even experienced an interruption in TV Programming, it should go off without a hitch.

NWO plays it's game in a very concise manner, and the people deem it to be progress.

Originally posted by Agent Styx

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The Glass is really half empty for you isn't it?

The truth is my friend that things have come far too far for a singular entity to take control of the 'Internet'

As was correctly mentioned earlier the net is not actually a thing you can own or control. What is known as the Internet actually consists of many different types of communication protocols. Http / FTP / VOIP / P2P / RSS / IRC / Telnet / Newsgroups etc etc etc...

Take control away from the people and you will find new forms of protocol being used that are not restricted.

If ever there was proof that there will be NO new world order other than that of freedom.

The only way for a new world order to appear is for all communications technology to be outlawed and all those with technical knowledge to be arrested.

No the internet for those that have knowledge will always remain the place of true freedom.

The real issue is education. How do we ensure that the majority of people don't choose the easy middle ground.

An example...

I use a broadband service that is unrestricted in terms of throttling or caps. admittedly it costs me, albeit more than the average joe would be willing to pay.

So what will Mr Average Joe pick when looking for broadband package?? The choices... £6.99 maybe??? or even free with a multi package??

My point....

More people need to understand how the internet actually works so they can sort the good from the obviously bad to the down right dubious. Armed with that knowledge there would be absolutely nothing any major power could do to stop freedom of knowledge.

All the best,

NeoN HaZe.

I guess people forget when they hear about the internet being routed in ways that it could never be shut down forget that what is possible hasn't truly been figured out yet.Every day there is a new way to do anything when it comes to internet.For example take how Pakistan knocked YouTube offline.
article for above www.news.com...
Or how about any of these guys they basicly became hacking legends i guess.
article for above www.casoabierto.com...
Kevin Mitnick was there worst nightmare.He learned about the FBI having call waiting and call forwarding when it was top secret.He simply called telephone companies and said im with the FBI i need to now the number on our top secert box at your location.That box was call forwarding and caller id.He then used there own system to hack everything and they could never find him because of him using call forwarding and blocking caller id.
And now there attacking computer chips to break dynamic memory on computers that store encrypted, secure data.Just freeze the chip with key board cleaner and memory is frozen on the chip.
article for above www.technewsworld.com...

Originally posted by Harman
reply to post by Quazga

 

Oh yeah IBM doesn't have a questional past Or has it?

Anyway, what others say, the internet is very resiliant and people can get around almost any attempt to centralize it. Although i can see it getting populair with the masses if they get enough reasons to switch over. The reasons ranging from pc-safety ( again the safety thing

) with IBM scanning everything on the mainframe for viruses and on the other hand flooding the old internet with the more nasty kind of virus ( would not put it past them ) and availability/stability of the service. Other stuff come to mind. Ah well, as long as there is a choice.

I'm speaking in terms of capability. Not intention.

reply to post by Quazga


Im sorry but didnt IBM make the hitler machines to process the jews to death. Why doesnt IBM scare you.

come far too far for a singular entity to take control of the 'Internet'
As was correctly mentioned earlier the net is not actually a thing you can own or control. What is known as the Internet actually consists of many different types of communication protocols. Http / FTP / VOIP / P2P / RSS / IRC / Telnet / Newsgroups etc etc etc...

Not to mention that the internet is just bilions of servers all over this earth, how would they take control of the internet leaves me picture blind.
How would they restrict the other servers from building networks and just comunicating with each other.



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Exactly the only way this could work is one of two ways.

one massive server farm so you are only able to rent servers from IBM.com

or all internet is filtered through one hub and resticted.

The internet isnt one pc or one hub.

its milliosn of different servers.

Originally posted by NWOmaskedman
Exactly the only way this could work is one of two ways.

one massive server farm so you are only able to rent servers from IBM.com

or all internet is filtered through one hub and resticted.

The internet isnt one pc or one hub.

its milliosn of different servers.

This is imposble and I'll tell you why.
What stops me from turning my desktop computer in to a server, it's easy really, it does not take alot of resurses for a web server, any desktop could pull this off.In no time I could be brodcasting on my IP with an apache server sofware.Since the cable that connects me to the internet is far away from this super IBM computer what stops others from accesing my server by entering my... ip ?
The only way to restrict me is to cut the cable and how are they going to do that since it's not their property.
Eventualy they can have an agreement to restrict me by fire wall but only in their network, who would want to be in their network any way.

I own a real small web hosting busines, I deal with web servers all day, it would be imposible in my mind.
The only way is get ISP providers to have an agreement with them, but that does not stop me for example and others of rerouting with another cable.
The internet does not exist as in an internet source, the only reason internet cost money is because some one puts a price on the cable that is connected somewhere. Some one owns let's say a small part of the long fiber optic that makes connections to other cables goind in difrent places, or owns a share to the satelite comunications sistem that broadcasts the signal The backbone connection then is sold to ISP providers, the price is on a bunch of cables connected with each other.
The protocols and all the other special elemets that make the internet so special are transmited by web servers.









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reply to post by Becker44

Originally posted by Becker44
Great!

All we need is some IT geek to trip over the power cord.

Becker

That weak link has been exposed and fixed, truth be told.

One of the earliest vendors of Fault Tolerant systems attended a trade show where a forklift ran over the single power cord. They fixed that design problem in a hurry.

True story.

Other than that, it was a pretty nice machine.

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Reminds me of SkyNet.

Kind of scary to think of ONE computer to run entire internet.

One Computer to Run Them All.

One Computer to Find Them.

One Computer to Connect To Them All.

And In the SKYNET Bind Them.



[edit on 26/2/08 by Souljah]

IBM to construct supercomputer capable of running entire Internet

IBM has announced a new project called Kittyhawk, which entails constructing a global-scale shared supercomputer capable of hosting the entire Internet on one platform as an application. Currently the Internet is a collection of interconnected computer networks.

Nice sensationalism.



[edit on 26/2/2008 by C0bzz]

there's something called root servers, that's what connect the internet right now.

what everyone connects to are web servers.

So what IBM wants to do is be the only root server, not be every web server. Like ATS for example would not be on this ibm server it would stay where it is.

There's a difference betweeen root servers and web servers.

The problem is that we are going towards the internet being privatized and controled.

Also IBM just like Fujitsu are very much part of the military industrial complex.

Originally posted by Quazga
I'm speaking in terms of capability. Not intention.

IBM is at least 20 times larger than Google. They've been in the top 10 Fortune 500 companies since 1955 with annual income over $90 Billion, versus Google with their highest ranking of 241 and $4 Billion income.

Almost every technology needed to create the Internet was developed by IBM and even the concept of Google wouldn't exist without them. Their search algorithms written in IBM developed programming languages convert to IBM developed machine code that's executed on IBM developed processors and on and on ad nauseum..

Google is just a directory service, equivalent to the Yellow Pages. They can't 'build' anything, especially not a supercomputing complex which is IBM's area of expertise for over 50 years.

Stupid idea in my honest opinion. Seems like an idea for internet control.
Also what would happen if something happened to this computer?

The internet design is fine the way it is.



[edit on 26-2-2008 by _Phoenix_]

Read the white paper.

This isn't about putting the whole Internet on one computer. This is about building a platform that capable of running the whole Internet in a platform that essentially acts as one computer, made up of over 16,000 racks. In other words, they're saying that the 16,000 racks just has the potential of running the entire Internet, which is currently made up of millions of racks worth of commodity hardware. The goal is to create a super-efficient computer platform for web-scale applications. There is no plan to copy the Internet to this machine. It's just giving you an idea of the power the platform they've come up with is capable of.

Wouldn't that be wonderful, one gigantic american single point of failure....lol

I realize that they don't intend to put the internet on it, but if their building computers for the government imagine what the governmetn already has!!!

This is a really bad idea. When will people learn that to give up complete control to ONE entity has always been a downfall for them. "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"

You guys are probably right. I am probably reaching hee by saying that the gov't will have the internet centralized. I guessthere is no reason for me to ever think the gov't wouldnt consider ever doing such a thing.