Black Box From Flight 93 Proven Fraudulent.

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PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

12/22/07

PILOTS FOR 9/11 TRUTH
www.pilotsfor911truth.org

Contact: Robert Balsamo
e-mail: [email protected]

UNITED 93 DATA PROVIDED BY US GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SUPPORT OBSERVED EVENTS
Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) via the Freedom of Information Act to obtain United Flight 93 Flight Data Recorder information, consisting of a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file and Flight Path Animation, allegedly derived from Flight 93 Flight Data Recorder (FDR). The data provided by the NTSB contradict observed events in several significant ways:

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[edit on 22-2-2008 by IvanZana]

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[edit on 28/5/2008 by Mirthful Me]

If everything about flight 93 is fraudulant and planted, what is real?

The war games of 911 were real....

Yawn....

Must be a slow day in 9/11 Truth land.

Isn't there a limit on how many times the same old, same old can be re-posted?

Cutting and pasting press releases from 12/07 is really nothing more than spamming the forum.

lol... the truth must make you miserable.

GOOD!

Wow. A six month old press release..... Well, it certainly stirred up a hornets nest, didnt it.

And the title?

UNITED 93 DATA PROVIDED BY US GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SUPPORT OBSERVED EVENTS

Observed by who? CIT witnesses?

CT

If you seen it, great.......

Not everyone here frequents ATS everyday for years.

Back on topic. the video shows that the Black box data is fraudulant.

[edit on 28-5-2008 by IvanZana]

Originally posted by jamie83
Cutting and pasting press releases from 12/07 is really nothing more than spamming the forum.

Well the same can be said for people who keep repeating the official story when they do not have any evidence to support it.

Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist
Observed by who? CIT witnesses?

No the media who keeps trying to feed us the BS official story line.

If anything the official story is the real conspiracy theory since it is based on a conspiracy.

I have filed a FOIA request to get the Pentagon black box but they would not give it to me.

Somebody needs to get that and do this same analysis.

Press Release?

No, it's Rob and company trying to pimp their DVD's and Coffee mugs.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Press Release?

No, it's Rob and company trying to pimp their DVD's and Coffee mugs.

Your Ad-Hom attack still does not put a plane in the shanksville crater nor does it prove that the black box was not fraudulant.

Thanks for coming out.

reply to post by IvanZana



So lets see, no plane crashed in Shanksville and experts all agree that the evidence presented to sell the idea that flight did crash in that small crater has actually debunked themselves and is fraudulant/staged.

Conclusion: The crash site of flight 93 was most likely the schedueled mock plane crash exercise for 911 at the johnstown airport next to the crash crater. No Boeing 757 crashed there.

No lets roll. No heroes. Nothing. Propaganda. Disinformation. Busted.




[edit on 26-7-2008 by IvanZana]

Originally posted by IvanZana
So lets see, no plane crashed in Shanksville

Really? If that was true then your OP premise would be way off. Black box data cant be fraudulent when you maintain that there was no black box to begin with.

CT

Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist

Originally posted by IvanZana
So lets see, no plane crashed in Shanksville

Really? If that was true then your OP premise would be way off. Black box data cant be fraudulent when you maintain that there was no black box to begin with.

CT

Oh i am sure there is a black box. Just not from the plane-less hole and fraudulant means, faked.

[edit on 27-7-2008 by IvanZana]

Fraudulent and planted:

Hoodwinked at Shanksville: Back in Black boxes

More evidence 'Flight 93 recorder' photo was staged

Black box data cant be fraudulent when you maintain that there was no black box to begin with.

You seem to miss something. You don't need a black box to create data that appears to have come from one, because the data is read into a computer that makes the data human-readable. Before that it starts out life as bunch of 0s and 1s in the FDR.

So yes, it's quite possible to have fraudulent data from a non-existent FDR.

You can tell this photo is totally stage by the simple fact that they photographed it down in a hole as if it was so important to stop their excavation process to "prove" to the public that a recorder was "found" down in the hole.

In a non-staged excavation, they would have waited to photograph it when officials were walking away with it as they do in all other non-staged plane crashes.

40 passengers supposedly were reduced to bits and pieces under the crater. For someone to jump in the excavated hole to photograph it, that meant odds are they were stepping on the remains of some of the passengers just to get a photograph of something they could have more easily taken after the recorder was removed out of the hole.

Of course, there is NO HARD EVIDENCE the above photo was even taken in Shanksville.

Other evidence it's staged:

# The photographer is unknown.
# The recorder is not caked with dirt after supposedly burrowing 25ft underground.
# The is no fire damage to it.
# It is nicely propped up on a piece of metal to be level for the photo.
# There is a mysterious piece of wood in the photo.
# The parts of both recorders that were photographed happened to be the labeled parts.
# The crater photo is the only one that shows any wires from the "crash" even though "95% of the plane" was supposedly recovered.
# The brand of the squared recorder is Allied-Signal, where as the brand on the cylinder recorder is Honeywell.


[edit on 27-7-2008 by im_being_censored]

Originally posted by mirageofdeceit

Black box data cant be fraudulent when you maintain that there was no black box to begin with.

You seem to miss something. You don't need a black box to create data that appears to have come from one, because the data is read into a computer that makes the data human-readable. Before that it starts out life as bunch of 0s and 1s in the FDR.

So yes, it's quite possible to have fraudulent data from a non-existent FDR.

Your right. The NTSb has admitted that they "Generated" info on flight 93 for the FBI. They NTSB has no files on the crash assessment of Flight 93.

Originally posted by IvanZana


Your right. The NTSb has admitted that they "Generated" info on flight 93 for the FBI. They NTSB has no files on the crash assessment of Flight 93.

Are you being honest Ivan?

Please post your source.

Originally posted by IvanZana


Your right. The NTSb has admitted that they "Generated" info on flight 93 for the FBI. They NTSB has no files on the crash assessment of Flight 93.

Why do you continue to spread false information?? I would guess 99% of the members in here are on to you and your lies.

www.ntsb.gov...

At this site you will find the following:


1-The NTSB Report on the FDR:

www.ntsb.gov...

2- The NTSB Report on the Air Traffic Control Recording

www.ntsb.gov...

3- The NTSB Flight Path Study

www.ntsb.gov...