Raise of hands, who here loves Communism?

Ok first off, there are two predictions here.
Neither of which will I go into extreme depth.

First off, Obama will become president.

Nextly, there will become a "New form of Democracy"

Now your probably guessing, due to the title of this article, that this new form of democracy will involve "Communism". And if you guessed this, then in a sence, you would be correct.

Now this isnt going to become a purely Communistic country, because in the state we are in that would not exactly fly. But due to a horrific event damaging America both economically and physically, many people will be left with nothing. Now your probably saying to yourself, ok so? And well this is where things take off.

Now, the majority of people are without much at all, there will of course be those who still have, and as we know from history, those who have generally reign over those who don't. With the mass economic down fall people will be looking to the governemnt for help, as they should for the most part. Unfortunatly this "help" will evolve into a dependence, and thus the gov. will have to make "changes". Still subtle, but changes none the less. It will start out with simple handouts and such, naturally everything will be properly rationed so that everyone will get their turn. Eventually it will lead into everything being run by the government. Now obama will not be a dictator/totalitarian ect. But instead the next president after him will be. Naturally, he will not start out as one. Also, this will never be called communism
But as time goes on, he will become one.

In a nutshell, be prepared for the gov. to be calling all the shots, and you working for them in order to get America "Back on track".

Thank you for your time.

Note, this is not speculative, this is a "real prediction"

-Gabriel Monroe

I am not a lover of Communism or of Nazism, both of which are militant forms of socialism where "the people" have no rights other than what the "powers that be" let them have. We do, as you pointed out, already have a form of what you talk about. And it will get worse I believe, if either Barack Obama OR Hillary Clinton get elected. And right now, as things stand, baring anything unforseen, it does look like Barack Obama may just be the Democratic Party's candidate for President. Not that it would improve much, if any, under a John McCain Presidency. It's just that with Barack Obama's talk of "unity" and Hillary Clinton's "it takes a community" mentallty, this country will head further down the road to the type of Government that we fought a Cold War against to remain free, only to lose it from within, in a classic 'Trojan Horse' type of way.

I remember reading this a while back, and recently wanted to find it to post some things, first off it does look like Obama may be president, well atleast over hilary. And now with the potential "problems" with russia it seems like there may be a possibility of SOMETHING happening. Well in any event, I do think if some sort of nationally crippling event were to happen, something of this nature could be possible, idk I just wanted to add in my thoughts.

Hm...This is an interesting post

Well, I must say, so far so good. I'm not too positive as to how things will unfold, but I have to say I am not liking the way things aregoing, orwhere they are heading

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Wow, pretty insightful for being posted in February.

Gabriel...

Posted in February....either you have a very sharp political mind, and are extremely well read, or your intensely psychic...possible a combination of the two. It would seem that you are spot on so far with your prediction, and now I'm wondering about this "horrific" event that you talk about...is this planned by the PTB, or is a natural event? There has been a lot of talk here about such a disaster, and I'm curious about what you see...or know...

Socialism in it's finest form should not be feared, but all political systems are prone to corruption and mis-use, extremes of either side can be very damaging...perhaps America does need a period of socialism to correct the huge damage done by capitalism, if it can be handled properly...and I'm not claiming to be an expert here...I just think that the American people deserve healthcare, housing, education, energy and food that is a fair return for how hard they work. PERHAPS a well run socialist government would have a chance of supplying all of these? Discuss in another thread maybe....

Anyway, a little off topic...so I'm sorry....

" a horrific event damaging America both economically and physically, many people will be left with nothing."

This is the bit that I find realy troublesome....if you're correct with the rest of your prediction form February, I think we can guess that you might be correct with this....do you have more information please?

Well people, look around at all the threads posted and such, it's pretty interesting to see everything unfold. I will keep checking back on here to see if any of this holds any merit, but regardless it seems pretty interesting.

All I can say is WOW, this was posted over a year ago, and it seems to be coming true right before our eyes, I'm suprised this thread has not gotten more attention. I registered mainly because i was having some weird dreams, then I came across this and it seems like one prediction that actually came true, which is scary if the rest does as well...

Very, very Good.

I think a big part of being a prophet is just simply being able to actually 'see' what is going on and calculate the probable results. In that sense, you've done an excellent job.

Now that you've shown some good stuff, I want some more. What next?

This really doesn't belong in the chitchat forum. I think the predictions / prophecies would be much more appropriate.

Wow. Thanks for bumping this one. This prediction is pretty doggone right on.

Originally posted by Gabriel Monroe
First off, Obama will become president.

Correct.

Nextly, there will become a "New form of Democracy"

Now your probably guessing, due to the title of this article, that this new form of democracy will involve "Communism". And if you guessed this, then in a sence, you would be correct.

Now this isnt going to become a purely Communistic country, because in the state we are in that would not exactly fly. But due to a horrific event damaging America both economically and physically, many people will be left with nothing. Now your probably saying to yourself, ok so? And well this is where things take off.

I supposed the economy's situation is pretty horrific - especially to those who have lost their jobs and those who have lost a large part of their savings.

As far as the horrific event damaging America physically, I wonder if this could be related to the swine flu or perhaps the vaccinations or something else entirely.

Now, the majority of people are without much at all, there will of course be those who still have, and as we know from history, those who have generally reign over those who don't. With the mass economic down fall people will be looking to the governemnt for help, as they should for the most part. Unfortunatly this "help" will evolve into a dependence, and thus the gov. will have to make "changes". Still subtle, but changes none the less. It will start out with simple handouts and such, naturally everything will be properly rationed so that everyone will get their turn. Eventually it will lead into everything being run by the government.

Unemployment compensation and other subsistence benefits have greatly increased due to high unemployment. Also, couldn't we say that the bailouts (or nationalization/takeover as I like to call them) have resulted in their "being run by the government"?

Now obama will not be a dictator/totalitarian ect. But instead the next president after him will be. Naturally, he will not start out as one. Also, this will never be called communism
But as time goes on, he will become one.

In a nutshell, be prepared for the gov. to be calling all the shots, and you working for them in order to get America "Back on track".

Thank you for your time.

Note, this is not speculative, this is a "real prediction"

-Gabriel Monroe

Obama definitely has emperor-like tendencies and seriously does not like to be questioned. But what I find really ominous here is the remark about the president after Obama being a dictator/totalitarian. I am afraid that we are moving in this direction but, I guess, only time will tell.

sept 21 .

Ok lets look at this piece by piece

' First off, Obama will become president. '

Ok, so the guy predicted Obama would become president, before he was even the choice on the ticket over hilary, not bad.

":Nextly, there will become a "New form of Democracy" "

Ok being he predicted this before Obama was president, that means he did this before all the remarks of Socialism came out. If he "saw" something, how ever he predicted, he would have seen everyone screaming socialist and socialism and so on.


Now your probably guessing, due to the title of this article, that this new form of democracy will involve "Communism". And if you guessed this, then in a sence, you would be correct.

Ok so he's saying we are going to turn communist? So far we aren't, so maybe hes wrong here.



Now this isnt going to become a purely Communistic country, because in the state we are in that would not exactly fly. But due to a horrific event damaging America both economically and physically, many people will be left with nothing. Now your probably saying to yourself, ok so? And well this is where things take off.

Ok lets see where we are now, if something happens with the oil spill like say a hurricane or a fire, there could be even more damage then what has happened now right? Could this be the catalyst he was talking about?

Now, the majority of people are without much at all, there will of course be those who still have, and as we know from history, those who have generally reign over those who don't. With the mass economic down fall people will be looking to the governemnt for help, as they should for the most part. Unfortunatly this "help" will evolve into a dependence, and thus the gov. will have to make "changes". Still subtle, but changes none the less. It will start out with simple handouts and such, naturally everything will be properly rationed so that everyone will get their turn. Eventually it will lead into everything being run by the government.

Ok so we are seeing this little by little each day. But if what he says is true and if something ( am guessing here) happens with the oil spill, there could be huge complications which we will need the government to fix.

Now obama will not be a dictator/totalitarian ect. But instead the next president after him will be. Naturally, he will not start out as one. Also, this will never be called communism
But as time goes on, he will become one.


I guess this one will just have to wait until the next election?


I wonder why this hasn't gotten more attention as well, as far as predictions go, this one is pretty spot on.

Edit- Nevermind sorry figured it out right as I posted thanks.

[edit on 14-7-2010 by Kirbynewton]

Originally posted by Wally Conley
I am not a lover of Communism or of Nazism, both of which are militant forms of socialism where "the people" have no rights other than what the "powers that be" let them have.

Oops 'fraid not mate.

They are all distinct and unique systems.

First off socialism is an economic system created by the workers as a economic alternative to capitalism during the industrial revolution, whereby the means of production are owned by the workers. Money and markets still operate. Government is not used and all decisions are made by worker controlled committees. It's intellectual roots go back as far as the Bible.

Only one country has really tried it, Spain in the 1930's had a real socialist economy, whereby all work places were collectivized and ran by the workers. Productivity increased by 20%.

Communism is similar, but instead of money and markets resources are communally held by the community and are free. Again no central government is required.

Fascism is a system created in Italy by Mussolini, and others with him, whereby authoritative government controls the population though military, or military style policing, with a high emphasis on nationalism. It combines private ownership of the means of production with government to control the population. It also supports Darwinism, as in survival of the fittest mentality.

Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production, and the REAL and only reason we have or need government. The capitalists require the state system to protect their capital interests.
Without the state they have no power to keep the workers from organizing and taking over the means of production and run it themselves (socialism).

The state system, a system that allows one class of people to control another using government, police, military, schools, media etc.

Socialism is NOT state supplied health care, or welfare, or Marxism, or Hitler, or Russia, or China, or anything else you don't like. Capitalism is not freedom, you are owned by the very fact that you can not supply your own resources, you do not have the means to produce. You have to work for someone who does, even if you 'own' a business. Capitalists do not work for their living they collect from their ownership of the means of production, their 'capital', by paying workers the least they can get away with and produce the lowest quality product they can get away with. The average person does not benefit from this.

[edit on 7/15/2010 by ANOK]