The Satellite Was Hit

Excuse my ignorance, but is Hydrozine explosive? I assume it is since it is a propellant, but just want to get the facts. Seems it would make quite an explosion if it is..

Still unclear if a total success says KNX news radio.

"Encouraging news" about hitting the hydrozine tank, but as of yet confirmed.

[edit on 20-2-2008 by chetinglendalevillage]

No oxygen in space to fuel a big explosion (fireball), so I don't think it would be that strange if it wasn't very spectacular. Then again, I have no idea about these things, so I could be wrong .

CNN is going to cover the story next...

Did I miss it?? They are talking about the NIU killer...

CNN's at commercial right now, then they said they're going to report on the shootdown.

going to the pent next... (now) after commercial... lol

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added after story....

I found it funny, Anderson asked about the theory of the US gov just wanting to show it's capabilities...
we heard from buddy boy, "That's not it at all,... but wanted to show they can"

???

paraphrased of course... I hope I heard that right...

[edit on 20-2-2008 by StoneGarden]

reply to post by macgyver


MacGyver wanta be..... did you actually see Neil step down off of the Lunar Lander? I don't think so... I think a MacGyver wantabe, is a young kid, because adults are more grown up, how old are you really MacGyver? Then we will know if you were around to see the actual footage that was sent around the world for all to see at that time. Did you ever see the actual footage of it? I don't think so.... If you did actually see Neil opening the hatch and coming outside, and then going straight down the ladder from the Lunar Lander, then why was the film footage taken from about 20 feet away behind him, showing him and the Lunar Lander as he was descending the ladder. Or, are you saying Lunar Lander II got there in time to take the picture of him and Lunar Lander I; hahahahahaha. Show me photots of his footprints on the Moon. Let me see the American flag on the moon.

Do you realize how large video cameras were back then? They were bulky and tubes; everybody remembers the tubes in those old cameras. I'm sure those old bulky video cameras back then could take the temperature extremes too; hahahahahahaha. Give me a break, wake up to reality.

Vodka is great, you should try it. Let me know when you get some footage of the missile striking the satellite that isn't doctored, and didn't come from a source affilliated with your military.

You know your military has a self destruct button on all of their top secret satellites; just like all other militaries that have such satellites. You know they don't want their technology to end up in the wrong peoples hands. A simple self destruct device is extremely cheap to attach, and never fails to do its duty; and I'm sure that it worked perfectly this time also.

Anyone think nasa.gov being down has any correlation with this shootdown? If so I'm just an innocent victim wanting to know when the ISS will fly over! Maybe routing all of their resources to finding out the success of the shot. Nonetheless, I'm happy for the successful shootdown!

Personally,I think that this could be a 'test' for down the road if/when the 'staged alien invasion' takes place.

No I do not have any real facts to support it,its just a thought or a gut feeling.

Originally posted by macgyver Also reporting that the missile was only 10 million. What happened to 60 million?

My guess would be the costs associated with re-tasking three destroyers, associated support vessels and personnel, and prepping the missles to intercept a satellite with no heat vs. an ICBM, the target they are built to hit.

Bootyac, I think you could be very correct...a missle intercepting another small target moving at very high speeds could be more of show of capabilities, especially with all the hard feelings between USA/Russia/China/Iran...but then again, it could be exactly what it has been advertised as, destroying a fallen satellite before it kills people. As always, we will probably never know for sure

RussianScientist...You bring up a good point, as I would assume one of the first componants to any top secret project would be a self-destruct function. I do have 2 questions to ponder over...

1. IF a satellite where to fall from space and crash into earth, would there be anything left of value? I would assume it would become a pile of useless wreckage from such an impact, along with the stress of re-entering the earths atmosphere, but I don't know this for sure?

2. Where would confirmable, undoctored photos come from in this event? I would think that since the U.S. military was hosting and performing this "satellite intercept" they would probably be the only ones with cameras pointed right at the target? Just trying to figure out who else would have their cameras loaded, aimed, and shooting this event?

Thanks and peace to all

I suspect that this is just another step in taking complete control of Sat. systems to centralize all satellites for future , umm ' projects'...

Re: the idea of self-destruct, I read that the satellite was 100% dead only hours after launch. Zero communications and zero power. Which is also why it was still full of ("scary" lol) hydrazine.

reply to post by dno117


dno117 you asked some good questions; hopefully someone will have the answers that are scientific answers, not just a guestimate as I could give. My guestimate would be that no military would want to take any chance on having any part of any secret satellite survive a fall; but we all know strange things can and do happen; so do you think they would take a chance when then could load an explosive charge onboard that could make them all sleep easier at night. No one likes to pull his hair out and become bald overnight, by the stress of not knowing the outcome of something that is that important in ones life.

Hopefully some telescope toting scientists out there were watching and taking videos, but unfortunately probably most of them were trying to get a picture of the lunar eclipse.

Yes, it is possible that the USA military did nock the satellite out of space; and it would be easy to do by any advanced military that has heat seeking missiles that can penetrate deep enough out into space.

Lets face it, out in space it is very cold and if the satellite was out there, reintree of the satellite could have started to warm it up; also the cargo on board could have been leaving a "very good heat signature" if you know what I mean. But lets face it..... any heat seeking missle should have been able to strike it as long as it could get out in front of it as the satellite zoomed towards it. All other missiles would have been worthless most likely.

As to striking cold meteorites and comets out in space that aren't going to be warm' these heat seeking missiles would have been worthless also.

reply to post by RussianScientists


Hilarious, Comrade. First you want us to believe that the US is not capable of shooting down a satellite. Then you want us to believe it's no big deal because anyone could do it.

Your satellites all have self-destruct buttons? Great to hear. Don't make us push them.

Let's hope that the fuel tank was indeed ruptured in the "smashing" missile attack, as the military has admitted theres a possibility that it always could've not destroyed the fuel tank, and that they won't know for 24-48 hours.

See my thread in this same topic section discussing the potential for this shoot-down to go very wrong..

The Military has said this so far:

"It was unknown whether the missile hit its precise target -- the satellite's full fuel tank. The Department of Defense said it won't know for 24 hours whether the fuel tank had been hit.

"Debris will begin to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere immediately," the department said."

www.abovetopsecret.com...
(link to the discussion)

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Can someone with some theoretical scientific knowledege tell me how in the first place that this satellite was headed for earth? If it lost power or "died" as they say, wouldn't it just float off into space? Something about this whole situation is shady.

reply to post by Elisha4Yah


The satellite was in a low enough orbit that it was going to come down. Gravity effects nearly all satellites, plus there are other factors such as atmospheric drag (causes satellite to slow down) and a few others.


To russainscientists......... if this was really such a top secret satellite, do you honestly think we would have heard anything about it failing, or being shot down for that matter? There is no need for a self destruct function on satellites. Too expensive. Plus, when you would really need it, you would never know if it was going to work. If there is no communications with a satellite you wouldn't be able to command it to do anything.

too bad about the "human-star being hybrid" that was on board... anyone read about that? someones imagination getting the better of them.