Was John Lear right?(Lear's Aliens and Cow Blood)

reply to post by WhiteWash


John is not a doctor, well not that I know of, so he must have used
a doctor source.

So he has to be right.

He always speaks the truth as he tells us.

You bet cha, I also believe that the Bovine being so close to human is the key to much secrecy. It is also possible that they are mixing the two for population on other planets as well.

Actually, quite to the contrary.

I'm fairly certain that if Extraterrestrials visiting Earth had biological issues like that, they'd more than likely artificially create a solution to their deficiency. It's pretty ridiculous, in fact, that people believe aliens come to Earth to feed on human blood and cow blood.

I really don't understand why anyone would think a civilization would do that? Come to Earth, take cow parts and leave the rest.

I really don't understand too, why people even take John Lear to be some sort of beacon of truth in the UFO community. He himself says he likes to stir the pot and the things he says he may not even believe.

I think the most funniest thing that John has ever said was that there was a giant soul collector on the moon.

I mean, I guess people who are de-void of reality need this stuff to survive because the sunlight may burn their skin but come on seriously. How can you believe this guy?

Originally posted by antar
You bet cha, I also believe that the Bovine being so close to human is the key to much secrecy. It is also possible that they are mixing the two for population on other planets as well.

A being cannot be artificially planted on a planet and expect to thrive successfully, naturally.

John was probably referring to HemAssist, developed by the Baxter International for the US army.

1985: US Army and Baxter begin program to develop red blood cell substitute, eventually called HemAssist

source

I don't think JL claims to have foretold anything, IMO he is simply reporting what he had heard.

Also, it seems they had been playing around with cow blood for a while:

1937: Amberson experiments with bovine hemoglobin in saline solution transfusion to animals

I think, I first heard of this in Jim Keith's book about black helicopters. (published way after any of these statements)

reply to post by Masisoar

I really don't understand why anyone would think a civilization would do that? Come to Earth, take cow parts and leave the rest.

Why not? Men have done this to species right here on Earth. Killing elephants for their tusks for example, or ducks for their fattened livers.

What if Earth really is just a blood ranch for the aliens?

reply to post by ConspiracyNut23


Not only was John not "predicting" or "foretelling" anything, he was sharing information that was available if you knew where to look... But WHERE was he ever abused or mocked for talking about this subject?

What's the point of this thread? We are talking about something that happened TEN YEARS ago and is truly meaningless to this day.

Can someone enlighten me as to the point of this thread please?

Springer...

reply to post by jackinthebox


Well you have to ask yourself. These are beings that have mastered space travel, they are clearly technologically advanced. Now, even we have the capability of cloning, and depending on who you ask the ETs have shown a that they have knowledge of genetics. So why would they come here, expending resources, when they could simply clone their own stock of cattle?

reply to post by Xcalibur254


Real estate.

That is the answer, and this is line two.

reply to post by Springer


I'm also a little confused as to what is being disputed here. Lear never claimed to be making any groundbreaking predictions about whether or not bovine blood was similar to human blood, it seems to me that he referenced previous research and then came up with his theory regarding extraterrestrials harvesting said blood. I also can't recall an instance on this site in which this particular theory was flamed, but as always I have no problem being corrected. So what exactly are we arguing about here? Are people just bitter that Lear is no longer an active part of this website? If so, fear not. It's not like the man's work is any less of a contribution to the content of this site. Case in point: this thread.

Well... what if the ET's that are doing the genetic manipulation have to do it here because this IS where the come from? They need the untainted genetic DNA to repair their screwed up digestive track. Perhaps they are time travelers from far in our future... that would explain why Earth would be so important to them.

For me this thread is about being another piece of the puzzle. What might sound like absolute hogwash today, could actually be another piece of the puzzle that we will not understand until other pieces make it fall into place.

Wow you guys really get focused on providing sources and wrapped up in an off subject... I agree with the original post that Lear being correct about the HemoTech thing most likely proves that he is telling the truth about other things... I agree some outrageous stuff has been said by John, but more than not I get the feeling he's telling us pure facts and then throwing in a crazy statement to provide himself with plausible deniability... It's a smart thing to do because we sit around and argue about whether he's telling the truth or not... In my opinion that's exactly what NSA would want... Makes it seem as if nobody really takes him serious which is good...

One thing I have learned about this subject and others with speculation is you have to read between the lines and need an open mind... Yes lots can be tossed asside, but if you listen and read between the lines you'll find the facts... You'll start to see corillations in the data/information and certain "things" with click and you'll see it... It's not up to us to inform the world, it's up to smart people like John to inform us. It's all about the research, the more you do the more you'll understand and the more you will begin to see... It will also allow you to see what I mean about John... He's smart and is releasing the information to us in a very strategic way...

With a little common sense and little less bickering I think some of us might be able to accomplish some things tonight! yay

Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by ConspiracyNut23

 

Not only was John not "predicting" or "foretelling" anything, he was sharing information that was available if you knew where to look... But WHERE was he ever abused or mocked for talking about this subject?

What's the point of this thread? We are talking about something that happened TEN YEARS ago and is truly meaningless to this day.

Can someone enlighten me as to the point of this thread please?

Springer...

The poster is talking about something that happened 21 years ago.
I think the point of the thread is that some things Mr. Lear has been talking about - especially in relation to what NASA is doing vs what it says it's doing - might take considerably longer than 21 years before even the first verifiable glimpses of truth begin to emerge.

Your reply seemed to be more about questioning the relevance of John Lear in a larger sense, I'm not a shrink but I suspect the point of your reply has more to do with something that happened 21 days ago, as far as I can tell.

Originally posted by GavCg
its weird how super smart ETs who can elude the mass population, and travel in space crafts with technologies beyond our understanding , dont have scientists in their home world that can find cures for their digestive systems... or somehow, they need human DNA to keep their species from being extinct.. and of all the races that exist in the universe..

I hear what your saying, but it is interesting that in (a part of) Judaism it is believed that demons do not like humans and are envious of them because they were not completed - finished being mad - because God rested on the 7th day and did not have time to finish them.

Sure its allegory, we all know this - but we also know allegories point to the truth.
As well as the book of Enoch where angels were punished and had rocks thrown on them (dwellers of the cave or underworld...hollow earth theory which for sure is a symbol of the elaborate cave systems...check out afghanistan as an example)

So if we look at the bit of them being, as John said, on the back end of a genetic curve...and as Springer said about reptilians "they are not exactly classically defined aliens" - this was when explaining why reptilians could not be discussed on the UFO thread. Well, this is true. They are aliens, but not in the classic sense. They have been with us since "the beginning" it would seem.

Johns thing does (even if its not on purpose) link not only the bit about the hemoglobin, but also Judaic sources (and Christian, though not modern 'Christian' thought) into his post.

It is definitely an interesting subject for sure and I bet if we had the accurate history of the earth it would make for one good hollywood blockbuster movie...forget the L.O.T.R.S TRILOGY, it would make it look like hobbits and goblins were common place.

Peace

dAlen

Good thread by the way, nice to see some interesting topics.

"Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean war and several more sauces were retrieved by the Air Force." Lear's Aliens

Nice to know they sampled the cuisine while out documenting UFO sightings.

Am I missing something here?

Am I the only one who gets the impression that the moderators of this site don’t want any one discussing John Lear?

It seems obvious to me that this post was about John Lear, yet three moderators, including the site owner appears to be trying to stop people from discussing anything to do with him.

Here are some quotes from various moderators taken from this thread:

“Search Google news archives. Nothing new here.......”

“What did he prove?”

“The research was done 2 years before Lear mentioned it in late 1987. What did he prove?”

“The method was developed before Lear mentioned it on December 29, 1987. It was tested before Lear mentioned it.

What did Lear prove?”

“We will be discussing Aliens and Cows Blood in this thread,

Not John Lear and it's not a place to be leaving messages for him.”

“Can someone enlighten me as to the point of this thread please?”

Does anyone know why the owner and moderators of this site suddenly appear to hate and loath John Lear?

I honestly and truly find this a tad confusing.

reply to post by hlesterjerome

Well, the first moderator posts actually are quite good questions IMO, which has not been answered.

And I see the reason of Springer in asking, what the interesting things are, in discussing things that can quite clearly be disproven (IMO) now.

I have never read anything about this John Lear, but I've seen his name on several occations on ATS. And since this is the first real intro to Lear I've had, I actually could have asked the same questions these guys did. And yes, I read the various links posted in this thread, and actually found them quite ridicilous. But hey, just my oppinion..

Originally posted by Skunky
"Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean war and several more sauces were retrieved by the Air Force." Lear's Aliens
Nice to know they sampled the cuisine while out documenting UFO sightings.

Good one, strangely appropriate.
Because it truly is about sauces whether bovine or human right?

The cattle mutilations and the abduction phenomenon does have a sadistic medical angle. I still find the "grand deception" scenario of Lear's Aliens plausible. Maybe John was just on the cutting edge of bovine blood technology, but it ads some credence to a rather fantastic tale.

The question in the thread is "was john lear right?"
You ask it as if he has just be proven right on a theory that no one else knew about and yet its been proven that people knew of this before john lear.
Did he ever provide evidence for this?NO
lets not forget that john lear said ALIENS were harvesting cows for their blood not humans.
All that has been proven is that humans can accept cows blood as of yet that doesnt prove what john said in the slightest.
Should we believe that because humans can accept cows blood that there really is a soul catcher on the moon.
I would guess that the mods are being impatience with people talking about JL because he isnt a reliable way of presenting facts.
John lear is a storyteller, just because of his background that doesnt mean he knows anything.

Originally posted by elevatedone
We will be discussing Aliens and Cows Blood in this thread,

Not John Lear and it's not a place to be leaving messages for him.

on topic please

NO LEAR TALK lol

we do need to remember John Lear and what he has done when it comes to many subjects

because it seems as if he's not welcome here any longer in any way shape or form