Imagine All the People

Totally agree with you Sol, Before we learn to love others and this world, we need to learn to love ourselves. Only then can we proceed.

Yes I too agree with Sol.

I really believe someday soon that which some call the "awakening" or "purification" will happen. Im in no way claiming to be ready for such a thing as it's hard for me to even imagine it. Only thing that makes sense to me is to plod along trying to love and appreciate the many wonderful things I have been witness to or a part of.



On another note,


In my world I am I, and you are you.

In my world we all have non-polluting free energy and flying cars. There are no speed limits and no chance of head on collision.

Ahh such a feel good thread man, idealism + spirituality just makes my day.

I know exactly where you come from being a big Lennon head, you should check out Angels & Airwaves, I can't say you'll like them but the things they sing about makes you cry because you're alive.

I see the kind of world you describe in all of us, just not enough effort.

Uh, I'm all for a cool place to hang out, but what has this to do with conspiracies?
Admittedly, I haven't read through this whole thread and I really don't intend to.
However, it has crossed my mind to ask...why is this thread in the conspiracy forum?

Yea wouldn't that be sweet if you hit somebody, you just go right through them. Like there is some sort of tech when you make contact with something it automatically Makes the your car and yourself Translucent. Sweet idea.

all beauty manifests from a single point in time
tell me whats your sign sweetheart?
each part of myself is a shifting rhythmic vision
i toy with flamboyance like a clairvoyant oracle
i drink hemlock with a fresh stalk of awkward mockery
come walk with me darling
lets watch the stars bring morning
come talk with me starling
make me feel worth more than the farthest farthing.

i looked inside a crooked staircase wasteland
embrace sand and shake hands with vapid damnation
rapidly acclimate to a sub-zero cohesion season
each reason i keep secret like a treasonous senior official

on the day that the skies activate
i plan to create a makeshift melody rebellion
if my odds were twentytwelve to one
then on that day awake and activate the sun

no more numb feelings to ascertain a frame of mind blinded
a stain in time saves thine own ass classic bastard facsimile
i really dont care about my tangents or fragments or passions
when the last bastion at last collapses
each man will stand accountable for his own fable creation
and we all will awaken in the name of the saviour.

It is in skunk works, i thought that would be an appropriate Place to put it. I am sorry if it is in the wrong place, i suppose someone could move it if they want, but i believe where it is now is a pretty good place.

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I haven't yet read the rest of this thread, but this seems like a continuation of a discussion on here yesterday in which I recall being rather impressed by your insightful comments. I agree that most people are so entrenched in the system that they cannot even "imagine" anything better. They throw around all these logical and practical excuses, as if we are nothing but visionaries and dreamers spinning wild fantasies.

But there MUST be a better way to exist. I personally feel that a combination of technology and progress, along with a more holistic outlook, eco-friendly worldview and planetary (rather than nationalistic or racist) consciousness.

I look forward to reading the replies throughout this thread and maybe then I'll drop back in with more to say!

Well.....darcon.
Good job my friend. Tread lightly....remember all who read this thread that the point is unity. Lose that negative feeling you have towards "idealism"....in fact, forget you even were taught the word and that it cannot be achieved. Focus on peace and unity. This is why we are here, even if its cyclical the circle doesnt have to be so damn disconnected. ITS NOT IDEAL ITS PEACE!
ITs not Utopian...its true life and freedom. This isnt about new ideologies people....we already want freedom! We just dont know what the real meaning of it is and neither do those who run our societies. Or maybe they do...i dont know, its been hard lately to decipher their on going agenda. Also remember people that we are not the only onese who have thought this up so lets try and think WHY it didnt work and fix those problems as well. Do not only focus on the idea that it should exist, concentrate on fixing the problems that inherently make peace fail. One of them is the many divisions within society. Discuss specific topics because i feel that in order to dismantle the division you have to understand it and why people adhere to it. When you are able to reason through the human condition you can solve any problem.

Keep it up darcon....youre a good kid and dont let anyone tell you any differently, even your parents.

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wow, you are one with words. That was one of the most beautifully put comments i have ever Read. BRAVO is all i can say. Most people will not understand those words but i do.

I share this dream. I wasn't around in their time, but agree with folks like John Lennon, Muhammed Ali, Martin Luther King Jr, and all of you. We may not always agree on the path to it, but we share the ideal.

If there was an organized community, some plan, and perhaps some execution towards reaching this, I would work very hard for this cause. I just don't know where to start.

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Thanks Guice, i will tread lightly. The reason i opened this thread up is because it Promotes Imagination, an imagination greater than the world we have today. In discussing topics like this we are opening up to new possibilities. Most People's Imagination Consists of Peace and Harmony, which we as human beings strive to Achieve. Even if some don't realize this. Like OTD said in one of his threads,

"I realized at some point that all of this begins with a thought; with imagination, and hope. It evolves into a dialog; and from that dialog - a collaborative process - it continues to evolve until these ideas begin to manifest in some form. It's as easy as that. But it has to start somewhere, and if your mindset refuses to allow these ideas a place to begin you will never get there."
That pretty much sums it up.

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I like your intention behind this thread. I've been reading ATS for a long time now and definitely share some of your viewpoints on life. Before I comment, one quick thing for you, is that website you found with the HCR (which is a great way of meditating) has a lot of forceful opinions that I do not believe to be true. For one, everyone can achieve the ascenion through many different means and that is not the only way. Two, their negative afflictions toward the greys are way off. I have communicated with them five times now and they are peaceful, loving organisms that are selflessly helping us gain momentum through this spiritual revolution. I was disheartened by the site to read such quality information about the mdeditation only to find their closed minded opinions on greys were wrong imo.

Okay now to your post. I don't believe you have to imagine any new world as everything is right in front of your eyes. Since everything that falls in the multiverse and all dimesional reality is the same (made of the same composition), you accept and reject whatever reality you want. There is an infinity of realities happening all around you at the same time so why imagine? Why not live what your imagination says? This is not to say I don't have a blind eye to this dimension. I am very aware of the current state of the planet being controlled, etc. but I do not have to accept it.And I don't.

Here is the reality I accept. No matter how lost, tortured, or abused humanity is, those negativities are not real. Deep inside everyone, and I do mean everyone, resides the beautiful soul that lives to ascend. The majority of people are not in contact with that part of themself as they have been so supressed by those who have almost virtually elimanted that part of their soul that they just don't know. Then there are those who are enlightened and help give the energy to those who don't know where to start. When I look at people, I can physically see their beautiful aura radiating around them without them being able to acknowledge it. I also know that many people have muddy or dark auras but that is due to confusion and not a lack of one being present. But you know what cures all that? Ultimate forgiveness, universal love, selflessness, compassion, purity, and faith in the divine and that everything is in divine order all the time. Pretty much simialr things to what that HCR website said. The more I give, the more the beauty of this planet is revealed to me. People try and bring me down everyday by the way they act, make fun of people, spread negativity, and so on but since those realities don't exist, I don't share their feelings. It also helps knowing that you, and everyone else, can acheive a divine protection from above to help you reject these realities.

Think about this, if there are 10 or 11 dimensions (which I believe there are ten and time is enfolded through each dimension) we are residing in one of the lowest dimensions. You would have to imagine that some pretty awful things go on in the lower dimensions. But if you realize that you can live spiritually in the third dimension and do it the right way (the selfless way), your ascension will also be that much stronger and those postential negativities are just a rejected reality.

I think you said in a post once that you believe the revolution over the next few years to bring us to the fifth dimension and I would agree with that. That would be a fitting way to break away from the entrapment of the Illuminati. The majority of my mediations are in the fifth dimension (although I've been to the fourth, sixth, and seventh) and all of them point to his type of ascension. If it doesn't happen that way at least we know we can be there whenever we want. Like I said in the beginning, great intention but there is no need to imagine. Just acceptance.

Light and Prosperity all

Thank you for that awesome Reply. I know some of the views on that website our incorrect, But i take from it what i want. Like i said before i made this thread to try and get people's imagination going, and within each person they strive to reach that goal Ascension. Through imagination they can imagine there inner most desires, threw something as simple as thought. I do try to reject negativity like you said it doesn't exist. But i would like to hear some of the other methods you said that could help us through ascension, you can U2U me if you want.

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I'm on my way to work and I can't U2U because I don't have 20 posts, that was my first. But I'll get back to the thread later tonight or tommorow.

Peace.

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Wouldnt it be nice if we were older
Then we wouldnt have to wait so long
And wouldnt it be nice to live together
In the kind of world where we belong

You know its gonna make it that much better
When we can say goodnight and stay together

It would never work people are to suseptible of evil. A perfect world could never exist. The fact is people want power ..... Does the name Nero or Hitler ring a bell?

Its remember me to John Lennon song

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I believe you are wrong, Ever heard of John Lennon?

Think about this one...

A holy man was having a conversation with the Lord one day and said,
"Lord,I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like.

The Lord led the holy man to two doors. He opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew which smelled delicious and made the holy man's mouth water. The people sitting around the table were thin and sickly. They appeared to be famished. They were holding spoons with very long handles and each found it possible to reach into the pot of stew and take a spoonful, but because the handle was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths.
The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering. The Lord said, "You have seen Hell."

They went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one. There was the large round table with the large pot of stew which made the holy man's mouth water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were well nourished and plump, laughing and talking.
The holy man said, "I don't understand"."
It is simple said the Lord, "it requires only one skill. You see, they have learned to feed each other. While the greedy think only of themselves."