Is the End near?

false prophet: rael aka claude vorilhon.

he claims that through cloning we can all achieve immortality. but immortality is an illusion. just like everything else in this reality.

To be honest, I just think they are looking for some attention. They have nothing better to do, so, they decide to start something up and get fame. I see no signs of such a thing happening anytime soon in our near future, but I will definitely be on the watch for something that might point to this theory.

I'd happened upon some very interesting pictures today that reminded me of ATS:





I always find it interesting when looking through history to find the generations who believe they are the last. Is this kind of thinking benefitting anyone? Suppose the doomsayers are right and today (or tomorrow) is our last day, what does it change? What would YOU change? Why are you changing just because there is no tomorrow?

Even CNN agrees:

The eastern world it tis explodin',
violence flarin', bullets loadin',
you're old enough to kill but not for votin',
you don't believe in war, but what's that gun you're totin',
and even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
And Can't you feel the fear that I'm feeling today?
If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
There'll be noone to save with the world in a grave,
take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
and marches alone can't bring integration,
when human respect is disintegratin',
this whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
and you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
but when your return, it's the same old place,
the poundin' of the drums, th pride and disgrace,
you can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace,
and you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

www.digitaldreamdoor.com...

"Eve of Destruction", P.F. Sloan - 1965

Spoon-fed media. Delicious! :-d

[edit on 17-3-2008 by saint4God]

I think what may be different about our generation's last days scenarios/proclamations may be the fact that the actual physical earth as we know it is likely going to undergo major real-world changes, whether the religious factor is considered or not. Global weather patterns have not been civilization-threatening in history past nearly to the degree that exists now. Global starvation has not been as widespread as now. Diseases are rampant, and "new" strains seem to keep finding their way into our societies.

And what are we to do with the twinkling yet visibly mobile "stars" in the night sky, or the mile+ wide motherships which have been seen by whole metropolitan areas?... are they involved in any of this end-times madness? Possibly. Either way, the sightings of unidentified flying objects we do not presently believe (as a society) are USAF craft are increasing in number, indicating to me that some form of disclosure is afoot, and whether our governments are in approval or disapproval, seems to me it's going to be taking place shortly.

The bible speaks of a rise in violent and heinous crimes in "the last days." Although this could reasonably be counted as part of the ebb and flow of the tide of life on planet earth, the frequency of the gruesome quality of today's violence is pretty much unprecedented in our history.

Earthquake frequency was predicted in New Testament Prophecy, and although quake activity has always been part of life someplace on the globe, this frequency has not been observed at the level it is now since accurate record-keeping has been around.

I find it somewhat short-sighted to suggest that just because self-assigned seers of old chose to proclaim the end of the world as we know it throughout history (while at once having no real science upon which to base/compare their Scripture interpretations) that this somehow invalidates all end-time biblical predictions. If one chooses not to support these texts, that is the individual's right to do so, and I wholeheartedly support the individual's option to choose. Yet, academically speaking, perhaps a more solid excuse to reject Prophecy would be in order.

Originally posted by managerie
reply to post by anxietydisorder

 

What is my point? The original thread asked a question about being in the end times. I just answered it with the schedule of events. It took four years for the Lord to show ..........etc.

The following three or four posts will explain the building blocks to the conclusion already posted. For certain, someone will complain about the long posts, but there is no way to satisfy everyone here.

Hi managerie,

I just wanted to thank you for the time you took to make those posts, I gave you a star for each one.

I'm still working my way through the first two, but I'm trying to reference many of the quotes to the context of the whole Biblical chapter. You've probably tied up a good portion of my week to Bible study now, but it's one of my favorite books and I'll probably learn something new.
Who knows, I might have a change of perspective when I'm done.


And about that "someone will complain about the long posts".

You can make your posts as long as you need or want to get the information out there. If you need to fill an entire thread page to give the relevant information, well fill it with all 20 posts, 10,000 characters per post.

Those that are interested in the topic will be thankful you took the time to compile all the information in one place, and the others not interested will pass it by.


Thanks again,
anx...........

Very Near (-_-) just a Few more TIME There is No Exact Date

I agree . . . very very good posts.

I hope to read more from you.

I'll say this, all these predictions and those who follow it will end up being subject to disappointment and apathy toward all future predictions and prophets. And just like the boy who cried wolf, likewise when the truth of Christ 2nd Coming is presented people will just brush it off as another false prophet making his random spiel and be caught off Guard.

So what we should do is do as the Bereans did...

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.



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It is not the 2nd Coming (^^,) I/We/MCGI know it very well (^^,)

*sigh* The "end has been near" since time began. Every year for the last few thousand Im sure someone has claimed the world was ending and you should do X to make sure you don't go with it.

With the Y2K computer 'scare' I don't know how many people I talked to who looked sheepish after I proved to them the computers wouldn't crash-many had bought 'survival packs' for a few grand.

If you are going to buy 'survival packs' buy them because they are good to have in an emergency-better yet build your own-don't give your money to people who make a living off scaring you to death.

Please stop obsessing on global death and go out and live. If a comet hits, or Shiva crawls out from Mt. Sanai or whatever-fine. In the meantime NOBODY knows. Stop wasting money on books that are proven false when the day passes by.

argh...

Oh that Y2K Warning,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008 (^^,) it's Just a Bluff and A Practice Training for the Big Dramatic Event will Come on that Day
can we put on the International dictionary the Word "Heavenquake and Skyquake" when that happens


Seems like Your Faith and Perseverance in your Heart is cooling-down on that inevitable event

Can we make it Stop? The BIBLE itself Will Answer if We and GOD Almighty can make it STOP or NOT








[edit on 18-3-2008 by johnb1]

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Global weather patterns have not been civilization-threatening in history past nearly to the degree that exists now.

How do you know? Global weather is a new study. We've only been able to see it in the last 50 years. The study of Ecology wasn't a science until the 60's and 70's.

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Global starvation has not been as widespread as now.

I think if we took a hard look, we'd see there are more resources available to work to resolve this problem. How many charities were set up in 1930 for overseas hunger? The difficulty is the increasing world population. In the old world, the more children you have, the more workers there are for the family. Many people are still living this way.

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Diseases are rampant, and "new" strains seem to keep finding their way into our societies.

New to us. Biotechnology is not a hundred year old science. Are you saying things are worse than the Bubonic Plague?

The charity links were cool, thanks for putting them up. I hope many decide to take action.

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Although this could reasonably be counted as part of the ebb and flow of the tide of life on planet earth, the frequency of the gruesome quality of today's violence is pretty much unprecedented in our history.

More unprecedented than the Holocaust? The imperialistic genocide of North American natives? The tortures of the Spanish Inquisition? Worse than Vlad the Impaler putting the heads of his enemies on the top of poles? How about the quartering and disemboweling of 'enemies of the state' in Medieval Europe? These were not random psychotic acts, these were many people of a nation working together.

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
That this somehow invalidates all end-time biblical predictions.

Here's a prediction we can be absolutely sure of:

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." - Matthew 24:35-36

On Saturday I got rear-ended sitting at a stop light. The End for me could've been on Saturday. If that person was going fast enough and I was closer to the car in front of me, I would not be here typing this. We should be more concerned with being right with God for our end rather than watching the horizon trying to predict everyone else's end.

[edit on 18-3-2008 by saint4God]

Originally posted by danieljk7
false prophet: rael aka claude vorilhon.

he claims that through cloning we can all achieve immortality. but immortality is an illusion. just like everything else in this reality.

My God, who would want to live indefinitely in this confusing, decaying mess of disunity, sickness, distrust, and self-interest?

Not I, for one. Good thing this one is false...

YEAH

2 Timothy 4

1In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:

2Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.

3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Matthew 5:11-12

11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Ecclesiastes 3:15

15 Whatever is has already been,
and what will be has been before;
and God will call the past to account

The One the People Who Kill Jesus Christ is the People that Don't Believe He was the Son of God the Father Almighty.

Many Hearts Love Killings and Hurting and Insults and Lying Deception

Luke 4:28-29

28All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him down the cliff.

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Global weather patterns have not been civilization-threatening in history past nearly to the degree that exists now.

How do you know? Global weather is a new study. We've only been able to see it in the last 50 years. The study of Ecology wasn't a science until the 60's and 70's.
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I don't know. I wasn't there. But I suspect we'd have found a document or two somewhere describing the kinds of violent weather patterns we're seeing now on a consistently degrading basis as exists today. But that's my humble opinion.
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Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Global starvation has not been as widespread as now.

I think if we took a hard look, we'd see there are more resources available to work to resolve this problem. How many charities were set up in 1930 for overseas hunger? The difficulty is the increasing world population. In the old world, the more children you have, the more workers there are for the family. Many people are still living this way.
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So, starvation is not really that big of an issue, today...guess I can check that one off.
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Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Diseases are rampant, and "new" strains seem to keep finding their way into our societies.

New to us. Biotechnology is not a hundred year old science. Are you saying things are worse than the Bubonic Plague?
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And old to whom? Are you saying that during the Bubonic Plague that a new, equally-as-bad disease was popping up every couple of years, like today, during our modern-day version of BP, AIDS? Why haven't we found any evidence of such? Would you also say that AIDS is not really a civilization-threatening condition?
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The charity links were cool, thanks for putting them up. I hope many decide to take action.

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Although this could reasonably be counted as part of the ebb and flow of the tide of life on planet earth, the frequency of the gruesome quality of today's violence is pretty much unprecedented in our history.

More unprecedented than the Holocaust? The imperialistic genocide of North American natives? The tortures of the Spanish Inquisition? Worse than Vlad the Impaler putting the heads of his enemies on the top of poles? How about the quartering and disemboweling of 'enemies of the state' in Medieval Europe? These were not random psychotic acts, these were many people of a nation working together.
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Yeah, those were rough, but, again, the frequency is out-of-control: Holocaust, for example, was an historical event, not a way of life for dangerous lay-criminals across the globe, as that type of thing didn't get reported as having been done by the sick citizens on the street to one another; those were maniacal governments performing the acts you mentioned. I'm talking about people microwaving babies and shooting up schools, that kind of non-state-supported violence. Every day. Rotten.com stuff.
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Originally posted by OptionToChoose
That this somehow invalidates all end-time biblical predictions.

Here's a prediction we can be absolutely sure of:

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." - Matthew 24:35-36
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But of the times and seasons, I have no need to write to you.
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On Saturday I got rear-ended sitting at a stop light. The End for me could've been on Saturday. If that person was going fast enough and I was closer to the car in front of me, I would not be here typing this. We should be more concerned with being right with God for our end rather than watching the horizon trying to predict everyone else's end.
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And not my own end, as well, should it actually occur soon?
More importantly, I pray God quickly handles all which concerns you regarding that rear-ending Saturday, and in your favor.

As to getting right, I'm very concerned with being right with God, what indicates to you that I'm not? Should we contact Heaven somehow and file a complaint that the entire book of Revelation is just a bit over-the-top, and that we Followers of the Way down here are just far too busy getting right with God at present to bother with all this Prophecy stuff, whether He inspired whole chapters and books about it or not?

Me, I prefer this one: When you see all these things, look up, for your redemption draws nigh.
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[edit on 3/27/2008 by OptionToChoose]

[edit on 3/27/2008 by OptionToChoose]

this dude is a false prophet. visit this site to read his interview statements: www.cogwriter.com...

one of the most disturing statements mentioned by Weinland, is why he thought he was a prophet and one of the two witnesses to begin with. his reason was because he had special insight through the spirit while reading the bible. word? that's not true. each follower of the lord will gather special insight from the spirit while reading the bible. are we to say that everyone's a prophet because of that? of course not. however, special insight from the holy spirit is required to make prophecies, yes i agree, but that's the thing, his prophecies are based on scriptures from the bible, not from the spirit itself. for example, we know prophecies from god are given to prophets through visions/dreams or words spoken directly from god. yet, he has had no visions or dreams or anything in that manner coming from god. as a matter of fact, the bible clearly states in the book of Numbers 12:6 that god will make prophets known to them through visions and dreams, meaning God will clearly state to that person that he is a prophet through a dream/vision and when he shell prophesize, and shell do so from dreams and visions. but no, not according Weinland. he said he thinks they have to be guided through special insight from the spirit while reading the bible. what an interesting claim. but what he's really doing is, he's already taking prophecies from the bible that have been mentioned many years ago, and making prophecies from them. that's the most redundant thing i've ever heard. how can u take a prophecy that's already been said to happen, and then make it into a prophecy itself. so really what he's doing, is just repeating a prophecy and interpreting in his understanding. that is not how prophets work. because he made private interpretations of the prophecies in the bible, he came under the belief he was a prophet, and because of this, he then assumes that he must be one of the two witnesses from the book of revelations. what a funny guy. and after he made such claims from interpreting the bible(and that's all he's really doing guys, is just private interpretation) he then tells the whole world. anyone can interpret prophecy scripture from the bible, but that doesn't make you a prophet and that is not how prophets work.

I would encourage anyone who has questions regarding Ronald Weinland to read the thread I created, which is in BTS. By the time you have read this thread, you will understand Weinland's motivation for writing this latest book.

www.belowtopsecret.com...

i've just read his book, and ahh.. i judged pretty harsly from my above post, so don't take my the OP as proof which i'm sure most of you haven't which is good to see. skeptisim is still good to practise and because of that i've jumped back on the fence. i apologize for anyone i may have mislead regarding my above statement. so the only way we would ever know is to see his predictions are true, is wait for his prediction to come to pass.

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
Earthquake frequency was predicted in New Testament Prophecy, and although quake activity has always been part of life someplace on the globe, this frequency has not been observed at the level it is now since accurate record-keeping has been around.

You hit the nail right on the head. In about 6 years, there will be "black cloud fallout". Large clouds will loom among regular cloud of water vapour, except these clouds will precipitate an acidic sludge, or fall as rust coloured snow. The government will quickly phase out major industry polluters. Widespread panic and fear will give way to mass hysteria, insanity. Much of the population will be thrown out of work. The present government will be forfeited to establish "The New Government", a panel of judges addressing the issues needed to deal with crisis everyone will face. This environmental phenomenon will continue for about 12 years. Life as we know it, all the luxuries we afford ourselves will cease to exist.

It doesn't end there. The world will attempt to recover, through hard work and collective reconcilliation, the light of day will be seen again by those strong enough to persevere. It will be short lived.

In roughly 20-25 years from now, there will be a massive earthquake, effectively splitting The United States from the basin of the Gulf Of Mexico, right up to the Great Lakes. Continued coal mining, excavation, and oil drilling will weaken the earth under shelf, putting pressure on a fault line that lies deep beneath this hallowed layer. For two weeks, an inrush of the ocean's water will spout from the basin and fill this massive chasm. The United States will be broken in half, and the ocean's water will rise until the east and west coast are basically two peninsulas. All the toxic sewage and radioactive waste buried in the United States will be wash up from this event, and basically annihilate every living orgasm in the water, and anyone who makes contact with the water will suffer ailments and contract disease. Those lucky enough to survive on the east and west coast peninsulas will loath one another will a deep sense of rue, each casting blame for the conditions that are brought about.

There you have it. Read this message and look at your lives, don't turn away because you're afraid. Stand together and ralley for change, TODAY.