Is the End near?

Well let's see. According to Weinland in mid-April of 2008 there will be a nuclear explosion in a major city of The United States which will kick off the three and a half years of Great World wide tribulation. I don't know if his knowledge is truly of God but he says that if this event does not happen as he said then you can honestly call him a false prophet and he himself will also declare that he is a false prophet. My advice is to be watchful and wait for this catastrphic event to unfold. Weinland and another man who is not yet identified will begin to declare the end of this age in the streets of Jerusalem and will be given great power by God, which no man has ever witnessed!!

No, if the end was near these people would be running to Antarctica

very true.i wundt go to isreal. am going to aussie

Forget this Weinland guy and his claims, more like False Prophet giving false prophecy in his 15 minutes of fame. I listened to his stuff last year and he was saying by the middle of feb this year we would be seeing the manifestation of "something". Its easy to be vague and hope like crazy something happens that you can say after the event...that was what I was talking about.

I strongly suspect he will adjust his claims accordingly when the Bomb doesn't go off in an American City or will revise it to keep the people who blindly follow tagging along.

It's not of God because man created God, not the other way around.

End times have been predicted by prophets since forever and we're still here.

Sure, if enough people make enough predictions statistically some will come true. But prognosticators have a very poor track record and their predictions almost always prove to be wrong, so don't bet your life savings on them or plan your future actions around their inane ramblings.

Originally posted by Brodylan2008

...Weinland and another man who is not yet identified will begin to declare the end of this age in the streets of Jerusalem and will be given great power by God, which no man has ever witnessed!!

Now that declaration sounds very much like that Weinland
considers himself to be one of the TWO 'end-time witnesses'
who are 'sealed' by that Bible 'God' in Revelation...
and are commissioned to speak Prophecy for 1,260 days
and perform miracles against the Beast Kingdom followers.

let';s see if he's another David Koresh or a Jim Jones type in reality

Originally posted by Dinnj
No, if the end was near these people would be running to Antarctica

Where it's safe? Nuclear fallout can be very unforgiving, and on the planetary level . . . think "global warming" on steroids. Plus, no matter which city is attacked with a nuclear weapon, life will never be the same anywhere, leaving behind far more drastic life changes than even 911's tragedies produced, I believe. Running may not necessarily produce deliverance from the kind of undesirable world such an event would create.

It seems prophets of ancient times would sometimes stick around during a "judgement" from Above, maybe that's what this guy is doing, if he has indeed been empowered with knowledge of the future.

Is the end of what near? The whole world? Certainly not. But you know what, countries don't last forever, and most people have such limited scopes and are so soaked in nationalism that their nation is the world to them.

Yes, We are nearing the End times. Here is the schedule. I can explain why these are the dates and I have, but no one seemed to understand or comment on the long writeup I did explaining the parables and symbolism.

Event Date Days Between Days from 9/11/01 References
Start 7 Yrs plenty 9/11/2001 0 Gen 41 - 7-yrs plenty precedes tribulation
Start 7-yr Tribulation/Birth of Man-Child 9/11/2008 2557 2557 Gen 41 - 7-yrs tribulation/famine after 7 years plenty
Mark of Beast/Great Tribulation 2/23/2012 1260 3817 Rev 12:1-6, John 16:21, Rev 6:2, 3:10, Isa 30:25-26, 2 Cor 3:18, 1 Cor 15:40, Dan 9:27, Dan 12:11,Rev 13:16
End Tribulation/Sun & moon Darkened/ Start Day of Lord 9/10/2015 1295 5112 Acts 2:20, 2 Pet 3:10, Joel 2:10,31, Mk 13:24, Mt24:29, Zech14, Ezek 38-39, Isa 61:2, Ps149, Isa 13:10, Jer 50-51, Jude 14-15
Rapture 10/20/2015 40 5152 1 Cor 15:51-52 - 7th book NT, 15th year, 5152 days later
Return to start 1000 year reign 9/19/2016 335 5487 Gen 7- above earth 335 days as in flood


Cut and paste this to a wider screen in say MS Word and the chart is more readable.

Originally posted by managerie

Event Date Days Between Days from 9/11/01 References
Start 7 Yrs plenty 9/11/2001 0 Gen 41 - 7-yrs plenty precedes tribulation
Start 7-yr Tribulation/Birth of Man-Child 9/11/2008 2557 2557 Gen 41 - 7-yrs tribulation/famine after 7 years plenty
Mark of Beast/Great Tribulation 2/23/2012 1260 3817 Rev 12:1-6, John 16:21, Rev 6:2, 3:10, Isa 30:25-26, 2 Cor 3:18, 1 Cor 15:40, Dan 9:27, Dan 12:11,Rev 13:16
End Tribulation/Sun & moon Darkened/ Start Day of Lord 9/10/2015 1295 5112 Acts 2:20, 2 Pet 3:10, Joel 2:10,31, Mk 13:24, Mt24:29, Zech14, Ezek 38-39, Isa 61:2, Ps149, Isa 13:10, Jer 50-51, Jude 14-15
Rapture 10/20/2015 40 5152 1 Cor 15:51-52 - 7th book NT, 15th year, 5152 days later
Return to start 1000 year reign 9/19/2016 335 5487 Gen 7- above earth 335 days as in flood

I'm never very far from my copy of the Bible, but what point were you tying to make

Explain yourself without me having to read each passage.
Please..........

Yet another guy claiming the end of the world as we know it. In the many years on ATS that we've seen this, how do we as posters still take this stuff seriously? Haven't the Bible codes predicted judgement since 2000, and every year since then? We have seen tens of thousands of failed prophecies, so why is there still nervous discussion about this?

It is just another Weinland disciple, promoting Weinland's book, attempting to direct others to Weinland's sight so Weinland can add to his congregation and money gained through their tithes to his church.

By the time all is said and done, Weinland will be a millionaire over. And no, I don't buy the "He Gives the Books away for free." He is making money on these books. He even owns the publishing company that publishes the books. Besides that, IF he were one of the two-witnesses, he would have no need to write books. I think the power of God to get His message out is better than man's devise of publishing. Nothing worse than making a profit off of God's word, and, nothing sells better than this type of material! It always has and, always will.

reply to post by jdposey


Iam curious about Weinland....You seem to have a well founded sense of things going on in the world..
Have you had a chance to read any of his writings.
From what I have gathered we do not have long wait to see if he is indeed a prophet, be it a true or false one.
Given his courage and conviction I am inclined to afford him a degree of believability......After All...God works in strange ways.

reply to post by anxietydisorder


What is my point? The original thread asked a question about being in the end times. I just answered it with the schedule of events. It took four years for the Lord to show the pieces of the puzzle over time to the point that I could not argue with the conclusions and the dates any longer. I am afraid that there is no "USA Today" convenient chart to show the answers to the questions hidden for millenia, but the chart I posted yesterday are the dates and the order of major events.

The following three or four posts will explain the building blocks to the conclusion already posted. For certain, someone will complain about the long posts, but there is no way to satisfy everyone here.

The Overall Timeline of History - Part 1

Let's look at events of the Bible and secular history during the past 6000 years versus the six days of creation.

Day 1: God created light and darkness, and separated the light from the darkness. In the first millennium, Adam sinned and was separated from God. “In the day you eat of it, you shall surely die,” God told him. Sure enough, at 930 years, just before the first 1000-year “day” was over, Adam died. 1st Adam – 1 Cor 15:45

Day 2: God created the waters and divided the waters from the heavens. In the second millennium, God judged the Earth by water and spared Noah. He divided the righteous from the wicked by the waters of judgment. Those who are righteous (believers) are above the water (curse) (Jesus walks above curse (Mt 14:22-33) and pulls man out of the curse (Gal 3:13)).

Day 3: God created the dry land, and plants yielding fruit and seed after their own kind. At the start of the third millennium, God called Abraham and gave him the faith covenant of the seed which would come. This seed also reproduces after its own kind. Flesh produces fruit of flesh, spirit produces fruit of eternal life.

Day 4: God created heavenly lights (stars, planets) as signs for seasons, days, and years. In the fourth millennium, the prophets were lights unto the people to declare the signs of seasons and God-sent future events—Isaiah, Jeremiah Daniel, etc. The Sun (Son) born at the very end of the fourth day (Mt 14:25, John 11: 17 Lazarus “Without Help” in tomb 4 days, 4000 years)

Day 5: God created living creatures. At the start of the fifth millennium, God sent his Son Jesus to make men alive as new creations through born-again salvation (John 10:10 Zoe – spiritual life). Jesus raised Lazarus as a sign. 2nd Adam – 1 Cor 15:45.

Day 6: God made man, blessed them, and told them to dominate the Earth. In the last millennium, man has used science and technology to subdue the Earth, even traveling to the moon. Man's God-given instruction has been fulfilled. Just as the Bible says, “knowledge has increased”—from horse and buggy, to the moon, in just a little over one hundred years.

Day 7: God finishes his work on the morning of the seventh day (Gen 2:2) and then God rested. This is where we are now. The 240-year error in the Jewish calendar was introduced during the Babylonian exile. The 7th day from the first Adam and 3rd day from the second Adam began in September 2001, revealed both by calculation of accumulated calendar errors and by direct Rhema revelation from God. The year 2008 is actually the year 6007 AM (after creation) when the errors in the calendar are accounted for.
o The Sum of Thy Word is Truth (Ps 119:160)

o Are the End-Times coming in the near future?

o 7th day from the First Adam - 1 Cor 15:45

o “on the seventh day”, “after six days”, “within seven days”

o Gen 2:2 - And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

o Gen 6:3 – His days shall by 120 years (until flood), 120 Jubilee years (X50) until end of man’s rule. Jubilees 3:15 says Adam & Eve in Garden 7 years before the fall. 120 years dictated after they left the garden – ends in year 6007.

o Gen 7:6 - Flood came in 600th year of Noah’s life. End comes in 600th decade of world – prior to 6010.

o Num 19:19-20 - Holy spirit will purify man 3rd day from Jesus,. 7th day from Adam.

o Joshua 6 - Story of Jericho shows a 6000 year run of history with a 7-year tribulation in the beginning of the 7th millenium.

o Ex. 23:12 - Six days shall you labor, but on the seventh day, you shall rest.

o Matt 17:1, Mark 9:2 After six days, birth of Man-child Ministry (Rev 6 & 12)

o Acts 1:15 (120 people) X Acts 2:1 (Pentecost = 50) = 6,000

o 1 Cor 15: 51-52 Talking about the Rapture. 1 Corinthians in the 7th book of the New Testament. Chapter 15 for the 15th year of this millennium. The rapture is 5,152 from the start of the cycle, which was 9/11/01 – the day the towers fall (Isa 30:25-26). So the total cycle, 7 years of plenty starting with towers falling, 7 years of tribulation, 40 days of wrath while protected in spiritual ark takes 5,152 days (vss 51-52).

o 3rd day from the Second Adam - 1 Cor 15:45

o “on the third day”, “after two days”, “within three days”

o Gen 40 - Joseph as type of Jesus, in prison, foretells butler restored to master while baker’s flesh eaten by birds (Demons, Rev 18:2) within three days.
o Gen 40: 9-13 bear fruit, restored to office, John 15:2
o Gen 40: 16-19 bread like grain offering, like Cain’s sacrifice that was not
accepted (sacrifice of the earth) and given over to demons (Rev 18:2) to devour flesh.

o Gen 40 – After Joseph foretells the Butler and Bakers fates, he is in prison a full two years more (2,000 years) and then foretells 7 years of plenty (2001-2008) and 7 years of famine (2008-2015 – tribulation)

o Exodus 19 - the Lord's meeting Moses on the mountain morning of third day. Arrives with earthquakes, thunder, lightning, great trumpet. Moses on mountain in wilderness nourished by the Lord 40 days (number of tribulation).

o Lev 7:17-18, 19:6 - Flesh left on the third day must be burned with fiery trial since not accepted in heaven.

o Num 19:19-20 - Holy spirit will purify man 3rd day from Jesus,. 7th day from Adam.

o Num 31: 24 - 7th Day people wash their clothes then come into the camp - like Revelation Bride who makes her clothes white as snow to enter Heaven.

o Joshua 1:11 – Joshua, as a type of Jesus, to pass over the Jordan into the Land of Promise within three days.

o Joshua 3:4 – 2000 cubits between Ark, Levites, and priests (Jesus as high priest) and the rest of the people (2000 years).

o 2 Kings 20: 5 - Go into the house of God on the third day from Jesus.

o Esther 1:3 – in 3rd year (Millenium from Jesus) Ahasuerus (as Jesus in this parable) made a feast for all his princes.

o Esther 5: 1-2 - Esther stands before throne on 3rd day as Bride will stand before throne in third day after Jesus after putting on the proper apparel (Rom 13:14 – put on the Lord Jesus Christ, Rev 19:8 – clothing is the righteous acts of the saints)

o Esther 10 – Mixed marriages as friendship with world. Sanctified as separated unto God from world within three days (10: 8).

The overall timeline of history - part 2

o Hosea 5-6 in two days (2000 years) he will revive us after Jesus returns to His place.

o Luke 10: 30-35 Parable of the Good Samaritan - 2 Denarii, 2 days wages (Mt 20:2), 2000 years

o Matt 28:1, Luke 24: 1 - at the early dawn of the third day, Jesus was already raised.

o Luke 13:32 - Cast out demons and heal sick today and tomorrow. Jesus perfected on third day. We are the body of Christ and He is the head.

o John 2: 1-10 Marriage at Cana on third day turns water (Word of God) in earthen vessels (man), and Jesus turns it into wine (transforming spirit, latter rain) which the latter is better than the former.
o Life of Flesh is in the blood – Lev 17:11, We are his Body, His Flesh.
o Matt 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-25, Luke 22:19-21
o Drink of fruit of the vine is harvest of righteous fruit
Mt 26:29, Mk 14:25, Lk 22:21

o John 11:2 Jesus remained 2 days in His place before going to raise up Lazarus on the third day.


o Other Signs of Proximity of the End Times

o Matt 24:32-34

o Physical Jews - 70-80 years from the Fig tree putting forth its leaves
(1948 start, 2018-2028 completion) – I believe it is all over by the end of 2016.

o Spiritual Jews – Leaves take in Sun (Son) and put out Oxygen (breath, spirit) and
water (Word of God).

o At time of Jesus Birth, Caesar required that everyone be enrolled
o Luke 2:1, Nat’l ID Card in 2008.

o Luke 13:4 - 1 Tower of Siloam fell, 18 died = 6+6+6 in Rome I,
Isa 30:25– 2 Towers fell in Rome II on 9/11 (see 9/11/05 Vision)
Isa 30:26 speaks of birth of Man-Child soon after.

o Jeremiah 25 – King of Babylon attacks countries around Iraq and rules them for 70 years (now 7 years this time)

o Daniel 4:10-33 – The tall tree (cedars of Lebanon – leadership of God’s People Psalm 80:10) allows the beasts (heart of man Eccl 3:18-19) to find shade under it and the birds to roost in its branches (Rev 18:2 – Religious Babylon is the haven of every unclean and hateful bird). In fact it says that all flesh was fed from it (vs Rom 13:14 make no provision for the flesh). This refers to a church leadership that preaches a doctrine that allows the old man to live. You do not have to be transformed at all. God cuts it down (see also Ezek 17) to humble the church (the travail prior to the birth of the man-child ministry) and then the King of Babylon (head of the US) takes on the mind of the Beast for 7 years (times) devouring grass (flesh - 1 Pet 1:24). The church is about to be persecuted and the existing leadership cut down (Luke 2:34) to size which causes woman (church) of Rev 12 to flee into the wilderness. The man-child ministry nourishes her in the wilderness for the first 3 ½ years and Jesus fed His flock for 3 ½ years. Judgment begins at the house of God and the mainstream televangelists have been supeona’d before congress in November 2007 to answer for elaborate purchases, furnishings, millions of dollars. This is only the beginning.

The same parable of a hybrid theology (Babel means “confusion by mixing) in the “days of Noah”.
In Genesis 6, it talks about physical giants back then who are the combination of the Sons of God with the Daughters of man. In agreement with 1 Cor 10:11 and 1 Cor 15:45-46, who are the spiritual giants today, and why are they giants? Can it be that they preach a word (sperma in Matt 13 Parable of the Sower) that is part fleshly and part Godly? You can be a christian and let the old man live, according to them.

o Ezekiel 17 – Another great eagle of many feathers (many nations, races) cuts off the top of the tree and bring it into a land of traffic (Babylon) and set it in a city of merchants. After this, Ezek 17:13-19 use the word covenant 6 times (number of man – covenant with men) in these seven verses (7-year tribulation). The covenant is broken half way through verse 16 which is half-way through the seven verses.

o Daniel Chapter 8 – Vs 1 - In 3rd year of of the reign of king Belshazzar (3rd Millenium from Jesus), vision of Iran (vss 2-7) being attacked from a force that doesn’t touch the ground across the whole earth (US with airforce and navy) and destroys Iran (Elam). After that, the Antichrist exalts himself (vs 8-10) and the takes away the continual burnt offering (abomination of desolation) in the tribulation. He is ultimately destroyed “without hands” just like the statue in Daniel Ch 3 is destroyed by a rock cut out of the mountain without hands. While Daniel 8 says it was the king of Greece, but there are allusions to a later, greater fulfillment as well.

o Prophecy of 112 Popes by St. Malachi in 1138. Pope Benedict XVI is #111 – the glory of the Olive. The next and last one is Peter the Roman. See seperate file

o Prophecy of the 12 houses – see separate file. Bush is #11. The next president is the last one.

o Coming of Nibiru “Planet of the Crossing” (eliptical orbit, period ~3630 years) comes inside solar system and closest to Earth in late 2012/early 2013. Our sun is actually a binary partner with a dark star around which Nibiru orbits. It is approaching from the southern hemisphere and cannot be seen north of the equator. It will become visible to the naked eye to those in Antarctica in 2009. Notice how close this is to the timeline of the appearance of the abomination that makes desolate in early 2012. Mt 24: 15-22 – After the abomination that makes desolate is setup up in “A” holy place (the spirits of those reprobated for taking the mark) then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be. The passing of this planet will cause mega earthquakes, mega tsunamis, major volcanic eruptions, and deadly weather. Notice that, about 3600 years ago, at the end of the Exodus in Joshua 10:12-13, the Sun stood still in the sky (earth stopped rotation). With few buildings and fewer people, the destruction was not as catastrophic. The passing of Nibiru will likely cause the earth to stop its rotation for up to 3 days and destroy most major cities. The passing of Nibiru is what God uses as the natural catalyst to the great tribulation written of 2000 years ago.

The Overall Timeline of History - part 3

o Tribulation cannot start just any year (1260/1290 days)

o Objections:
o No one knows the day or the hour.
o Matt 24:36, Matt 25:13, Mark 13:32 - Jesus, in incarnate state, 2000 years ago, did not know the exact time, but knew enough to quote the 2000 year gap in Good Samaritan parable (He knew the century, the decade, the year?).

o Since he is the “word made flesh” and considering all of the allusions and parables in the Old Testament, he must have known the overall timing.

o I can only conclude that Jesus was being coy in His answer because He wanted continuing vigilance in lives and ministry in the 2,000 year gap until His return (Mt 25:13)

o Matt 28:18 - All authority in Heaven and Earth given to me, - after this, He knows.

o How could others be so wrong before?
Daniel 12 - some information only revealed at the very end - don't blame previous.


o What will happen in the End Times


o Pre- or Post-Trib: Post – Trib Rapture is Correct, 2595 days after beginning of tribulation

o Revelation 20 - Souls of those beheaded - first resurrection. We also know from 1 Thes 4:16 that Rapture occurs at time of first resurrection.

o Job 14:12 - sleep and do not rise until Heavens rolled away, not 7 years before.

o Joshua 6 - Jericho story - flesh falls after 7 times around on 7th day. "Times" used as unit of measure for ruling duration of beast. (Dan 7:25, 12:7, Rev 12:14)

o Exodus - Feast of Unleavened Bread last 7 days before leaving Egypt.

o Genesis 6, Dan 12:12 - Noah seven days in the ark before the wrath of God came, 40 days of wrath, then lifted up. (much like the 7 years plus 40 days at end of tribulation).

- 7 Years * 365 + 40 (Gen 6-7) = 2595 Days

- Dan 12 has same number: 1260 (Rev 12) + 1335 Days (Dan 12) = 2595 Days

Jesus said “as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of Man” (Mt 24:37)
Jesus specifically alludes to a comparison to the days of Noah (7 days).

o God’s way is to remove the Wicked, not the Righteous (Prov 2:21-22, 10:30)

o Objections:

o But we are not destined for wrath (1 Thess 5:9)

1. The assumption is that the only way for God to seperate us from the wrath is to remove us from the earth, but Ps 91: 7-8 says that we see the fall of the wicked with our own eyes. John 17:15 – Jesus specifically asks not that the disciples be taken out of the world, but that they be kept from the evil one (while still in the world).

2. The wrath is the 8th year – called the Day of the Lord (Isa 34:8, 63:4), the War of the Great Day of God (Rev 16:14), and the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord is a year long time of the Lord’s vengeance for the cause of Zion (Heb 12:22 – Spiritual Israel)
a. Jesus read Isa 61:1-2a when He entered the temple at the start of His ministry, He did not read the second part of verse 2 which is the day of vengeance which we know is at His second coming (Parousia in the greek).
b. Other verses describing this 8th year – Acts 2:20, 2 Pet 3:10, Joel 2:10,31, Mk 13:24, Mt 24:29, Zech 14, Ezekiel 38-39, Isaiah 61:12, Ps 149, Lk 21:20-27, Isa 13:10, Jer 50-51, Jude 14-15, Mal 4:3,5.
c. Rev 16:14 is the first battle – Rev 19:11 is the last battle when Jesus returns with the saints to start Millenium.

3. Where do we see this 8th year alluded to in scripture?

a. 8 is always the fall of the flesh so that there is a spiritual new beginning.

b. Children circumcised on the 8th day (Lev 12:3, Rom 2:28-29) – fall of flesh

c. Lev 9: On 8th Day, Moses and Aaron present sin offerings to Lord and Glory of Lord appears to all people.
d. Lev 14:10, 18 Leper cleansed on 8th day – priest makes atonement for him by sacrifices (of the Wicked) Prov 11:8 - The righteous is delivered out of trouble, And the wicked cometh in his stead. Prov 21:18 - The wicked is a ransom for the righteous; And the treacherous cometh in the stead of the upright. Isa 43:3 - For I am Jehovah thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour; I have given Egypt (parable for world) as thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba in thy stead.
e. Jesus Gematria = 888
f. Noah and 7 others – (2 pet 2:5) Noah was the 8th person saved in the first judgment.
g. David was the 8th child – 1 Sam 16:10-12 – spritial leader as opposed to Saul’s fleshly leadership.
h. Look at all the references to what happens “after seven days”
Gen 7:10 – after 7 days, the waters came upon the earth.
i. Feast of Tabernacles (Lev 23:40-42, Nehemiah 8:15-18) – make temporary dwelling for seven days out of natural olive (Jews), wild olive (gentiles – Rom 11), and other branches in the 7th month (7th millenium), then tear it down and go to our permanent home (heaven). The tabernacle is our physical body (2 Cor 5:1,4; 2 Pet 1:13-14). Jacob was name for physical jews, Israel was name given to Jacob (spritual israel). Num 24:5 – How goodly are thy tents, O Jacob, thy tabernacles, O Israel!
Note: Convocation = rehearsal – for what?
The original Hebrew word that is translated as "convocation" is (pronounced) mik-raw means a called assembly. Another literal meaning of the original Hebrew word is a rehearsal - rehearsal meaning to "re-hear" what has been taught, but the modern-day accepted meaning of rehearsal, a practice session for a later event is also very appropriate because all of the so-called "Old Testament" Holy Days are prophetic in intent (they are not an end or purpose in themselves), until they are fulfilled, and are then memorials forever thereafter. The "spring" Holy Days (Passover, Unleavened Bread, Pentecost - see below) have been largely fulfilled once (the Sacrifice of the "Lamb of God" and the founding of the Christian Church) and will be again spiritually, while the "autumn" Holy Days (The Feast of Trumpets, The Day of Atonement, The Festival of Tabernacles and the Eighth Day - see below) signify events awaiting to happen, beginning with the Epiphany, tribulation, and The Return Of Jesus Christ.
j. Joshua 6 – the walls of Jericho (flesh) falls after the Israelites complete the 7 times around the city.
k. Exodus – 7 days feasting on the Unleavened bread (pure word of God) and then the judgment which kills the first-born of Egypt (world) (1 Cor 15:46 - the natural man is the first-born of the world, the spritual man is the second born)

The overall Timeline of History - part 4

k. Exodus – 7 days feasting on the Unleavened bread (pure word of God) and then the judgment which kills the first-born of Egypt (world) (1 Cor 15:46 - the natural man is the first-born of the world, the spritual man is the second born). The first-born natural man is killed during the judgment after the 7 days Feast of Unleavened Bread). Leaven is the ingredient that makes the bread palatable to the flesh – tribulation is a feast on the pure word of God.
Beware the leaven of the Pharisees (Matt 16:5-12, Mark 8:14-21, Luke 12:1) – makes it more desireable to the flesh – that flesh that is the enemy of God.

Beware the leaven of Herod (Mark 8:15). Human Government issues.
o We are to be kept from the hour of testing (Rev 3:10)
a. That was written only to the church of Philadelphia, 1 of 7 churches. Each of us belongs to one of the seven churches, 6 of 7 go into the hour of testing. What does it mean for the 1 of seven to be kept from the hour of testing? I submit that it means that they are already sealed (Ex 13:16 vs Rev 13:16 – Mark of the God on the Forehead (in their minds) and on their hands (in their works). It does not mean that they will not die or go through trouble, but that they are sealed to perform the works and preach the word regardless of what happens to them. Their destiny is sealed. There is no hesitation, no fear, no anxiety, no compromise. When you understand the epiphany, you understand that these people are Jesus clothed in human form.
John 17:15 – Jesus specifically asks that the disciples not be taken out of the world, but that they be kept from the evil one (while still in the world). Clearly, God thinks we can be kept from the hour of testing while still in the world.


Basic Timeline

This is my estimation of events and dates based upon all of the accumulated revelations from the word and personal signs. God has not directly told me these dates, I, David Eells, Ross Verba, and Steve Wilkins have agreed on these dates from the breadth of revealed sets of information. I suppose these dates could be off a little bit, but I sincerely don’t think so based on the breadth of information included in these notes.

Early 2008 - US has war with Iran that is devastating to Iran (Jer 25, Dan 8). President Bush and all government increasingly takes on mind of beast (Dan 4) to control the world and all people. US is hit with another attack blamed on terrorists. This second attack is much worse than the 9/11/01 attack and probably will be a strike against primarly the West Coast this time (see Michael Boldea’s vision the Eagle and the Serpent, Oct 2004). The control and abuse of the people has already started as police around country increasingly use non-lethal weapons to abuse citizenry. The leadership of the false, apostate church is cut down (government inquiries into major ministries has already started) (tree at start of Daniel 4). The apostate church allowed the beasts to find shade/refuge under its branches, but no more. That apostate church will be brought down somewhat. Remember that the birth of the man-child is for the falling and rising of many in Israel (Lk 2:34)

Early to mid-2008 – John the Baptist/Elijah Ministry starts to point the people to repent and point the way to the people who are part of the man-child ministry (repeat of the gospels, only spiritual). According to type, The John the Baptist/Elijah ministry would start 6 months prior to the birth of the man-child ministry.

Mid-2008 – major economic crisis world-wide – to bring down a country to reorganize with other countries, the leadership must accomplish two things:

1. Collapse the currency – seeds already planted in inflation, countries selling our debt, and the CDO derivate crash with the housing crash.

2. Exhaust the military – so you have fewer legs to stand on. Requires then intervention of foreign troops to assist in maintaining order. Rumsfeld already talked about that possibility.

Summer/Fall 2008 – Man-child ministry is born at the Epiphany (Rev 12:1-6).
Rev 6:2, Rev 12:1-6, Jn 16:21, Mt 12:49, Mk 3:34-35, Lk 8:21, Jer 5:24, 30:6-10, Esther 2:16, Isa 30:25-26, 2 Cor 3:18, 1 Cor 15:40-42, Mic 4:10, 5:3, Isa 7:14 (Outh – sign of something to come after), 2 Thess 1:10, Mt 24:26-27, Rev 5:9-10, Hos 6:1-3, Joel 2:23, Song of Solomon 8:5-6, Isa 66:6-9. Gen 41 – Joseph as 2nd to Pharoah (God) not recognized by brothers because he is in Egyptian dress (gentile body)

Sep 11, 2008 – Start of 7-year tribulation after 7 years of plenty that commenced in Sept 2001. Covenant with many is made to start the clock. Now begins 7 years of famine. Saints go into the wilderness to be matured by the man-child ministry and fed the pure word of God. I believe that the date for the start will be Sept 11, 2008 since the days are so closely counted for the total cycle of the end.

2009 – Nibiru becomes faintly visible to the naked eye in southern hemisphere. Fullness of the Gentiles is completed. God turns back to the Jews to bring in the remnant through the Man-child ministry (Gen 45:6). Saints remain in wilderness until 2012.

Feb 23, 2012 – setting up of the Mark of the Beast – many Christians take mark and are reprobated by God. These are the corporate Son of Perdition taken over by demons who persecute the remnant saints.
Wars and societal control escalate to glean out a subset of world’s population who will cooperate and conform to leadership for survival of Nibiru close approach. All others are killed off beforehand so that those deemed mostly likely to survive will thrive on reduced resources. Generic religion will be substituted and required to be worshipped to end religious wars.

Rom 12:1, 1 Pet 2:9 – we are the priests who have a continual sacrifice – our own lives.
Acts 7:48, 17:24 – God no longer dwells in temples made with hands
Acts 15:16,1 Cor 3:16, 6:18, Col 1:18, 2 Tim 4:8, 1 Jn 1:6, 4:2, Eph 4:15, Isa 66:1, 2 Cor 4:11, Zech 14:4, Ps 47:3, Mal 4:3 – we are the temple of the God in the New Testament
Dan 9:27 – the only sacrifice that will cease is the lives of those reprobated for taking the mark.

Late 2012/Early 2013 – Nibiru makes closest approach to earth – massive devastation – large part of earth’s population perishes in catastrophes and subsequent famine. Magnetic poles shift orientation (Isa 24:1)

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2012-2015 Great Tribulation caused by the passing of planet Nibiru and the afternath and people’s reactions of fear and panic caused by the passing. Great persection of the saints, beheading of many.
(Matt 24, Rev 13)

Sep 11, 2015 – Sun Darkened, Moon not give off light (physically due to nuclear exchange, spiritually the Sun and Moon glory believers are no longer giving light to the world (1 Cor 15:40-42, 2 Cor 3:18, Isa 30:25-26). Beginning of the Day of the Lord. Saints have a supernatural Psalm 91 protection against all harm and are raptured 40 days later (rained for 40 days before Noah lifted off of earth) on Oct 20, 2015. United States (king of the South) is completely destroyed via Nuclear Weapons and attacks from Russia (King of the North), China (King of the East), and Arab countries. Then Russia and China destroy each other as well all within the next year.

The Day of the Lord (wrath) is this 8th year after the 7-year tribulation– called the Day of the Lord (Isa 34:8, 63:4), the War of the Great Day of God (Rev 16:14), and the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord is a year long time of the Lord’s vengeance for the cause of Zion (Heb 12:22 – Spiritual Israel)
a. Jesus read Isa 61:1-2a when He entered the temple at the start of His ministry, He did not read the second part of verse 2 which is the day of vengeance which we know is at His second coming (Parousia in the greek).
b. Other verses describing this 8th year – Acts 2:20, 2 Pet 3:10, Joel 2:10,31, Mk 13:24, Mt 24:29, Zech 14, Ezekiel 38-39, Isaiah 61:12, Ps 149, Lk 21:20-27, Isa 13:10, Jer 50-51, Jude 14-15, Mal 4:3,5.
c. Rev 16:14 is the first battle – Rev 19:11 is the last battle when Jesus returns with the saints to start Millennium.

Oct 20, 2015 – Saints are raptured 40 days into the Day of the Lord are up in heaven for about a year (335 days as Noah was up above the Earth during the destruction by water, not it is destruction by fire). (Dan 12, Genesis 6-7, Rev 12) (see slides)

Sept 16, 2016 – Saints return with Jesus to finish off the remaining rebellious evil ones (Rev 19:11) and begin Jesus millennial rule on earth.


Days of Noah
Physical Giants back then – hybrids – Sons of God & Daughters of Men
Who are the spiritual giants today and why are they giants?
Is it because the spread a doctrine which is part fleshly and part godly?
You can have Jesus and let the old man live.

Why Go through the Tribulation? What role for good does it play?
Isa 45:7, 1 John 5:19, Prov 16:4, Prov 21:18, Phil 3:8-10, 1 Pet 4:1; 5:10, Acts 5:41; 9:16,
Rom 8:17, 2 Cor 1:7.

What does the 666 mean in scripture?
o Number of beast, number of his name (Rev 13:17) Onoma: nature, character, authority.
o Can not buy or sell (Rev 13:18) – Again, God’s economy is to give/receive, not buy/sell.
o Sons of Men and Beasts have one breath (spirit), Eccl 3:18-19.
o Taking this is the abomination that makes desolate (Dan 9:27, Rom 12:2, 2 Thess 2:3-4) o Old man, natural mind of flesh which is the enemy of God (Rom 8:5-7).
o Number of a man, a corporate man – 1 John 5:19 – whole world lies in evil one.
o Goliath, 6 cubits tall, 6 armaments, spear head 600 shekels Iron. (1 Sam 17)
parable of fight between old natural man and new spiritual man (1 Cor 15:46)
o Dan 3 – statue, 60 cubits high, 6 cubits wide, plain of Dura (“circle” as in earth, gematria 600)
o Solomon got 666 talents of gold per year from renting out vineyards. (1 Kgs 10:14, 2 Chr 9:13)
o Romans 6:6 – old man is dead and buried with Christ (6th book, 6th chapter, 6th verse)
o Carbon-based flesh – 6 Protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons makes up physical, natural man.
o John 6:66 – many of his disciples went away and followed him no more.

Where do we see the start of tribulation in 2008?

Mostly we see 2015 in scriptures and, by that, recognize the start of the tribulation in 2008.

Genesis 41 – Joseph prophecies that the baker will die and the butler (who bore fruit) will be restored to their positions before the king (Lord) within 3 days (like Jesus preaching to souls in prison, then Joseph in prison two-full years more (2000 millenia). Then he prophecies 7 years of plenty (2001-2008) and 7 years of famine (2008-2015).

2 Kings 8 – 2008 = Shunamite womans sojourns for 7 years during famine (as in Joshua six where Israelites go around the city (Babylon Isa 25:3) 7 times on the 7th day) then appears before the king (God) and cries out to restore her house (2 Cor 5:1) and her lands (Soul – Heb 6:2-4)

John 2:8 – 2008 – In Wedding at Cana, Jesus turns water in 6 earthen vessels (# of man) into Wine, and says, “Draw out now (first fruits-man-child), and bear unto the ruler of the feast (caught up to the throne of God Rev 12:5). And they bare it.”

Where do we see the end of the tribulation/rapture/resurrection/start of day of Lord in 2015?

Judges 15:1 – 7th book (7th millenium) old Testament, 15th chapter (15th year) – time of harvest of saints.

1 Cor 15 - 7th book (7th millenium) new Testament, 15th chapter (15th year) – all about rapture and resurrection. Vs. 51-52 about the rapture reveal the 5,152 days from the start of the events on 9/11/01 to 10/20/15.

Feast of Tabernacles 7th month (7th millenium), 15th day of the month (15th year) – tabernacle is torn down and we go to permanent home.

Raising Lazarus – John 11 – Jesus stays in his place 2 more days (2000 years from His time) then travels 15 furlongs (15 years) to resurrect Lazarus.

Genesis 7:15 – (15th year of 7th millenium) – Noah enters the ark of protection during the water judgment.

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Genesis 7:20 – (7th chapter, 7th millenium) Verse 20 – 2000 Water goes up 15 cubits (15 yrs) above the ground in the water judgment. The curse runs its course over the whole earth until 15th year of 7th millennium.

Genesis 41 – Joseph prophecies that the baker will die and the butler (who bore fruit) will be restored to their positions before the king (Lord) within 3 days (like Jesus preaching to souls in prison, then Joseph in prison two-full years more (2000 millenia). Then he prophecies 7 years of plenty (2001-2008) and 7 years of famine (2008-2015).

Lev 23 – 7th Month, 15th day (7th millennium, 15th year) – when gathered in Fruit (Jesus in people) of the Land (soul) – refers to rapture after great persecution which is also part of the harvest of the saints.

Luke 3 – 3rd Book New Testament, 3rd Chapter – in 15th year (3rd millenium from Jesus, 15th year) of reign of Tiberius Caesar – John the Baptist proclaims how all flesh shall see the salvation of God (Lk 3:6)


2 Kings 20:

5 Thus saith Jehovah, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee; on the third day (from Jesus) thou shalt go up unto the house of Jehovah.
6 And I will add unto thy days fifteen years (2015); and I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake.
7 And Isaiah said, Take a cake of figs. And they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered.
8 And Hezekiah said unto Isaiah, What shall be the sign that Jehovah will heal me, and that I shall go up unto the house of Jehovah the third day?
9 And Isaiah said, This shall be the sign unto thee from Jehovah, that Jehovah will do the thing that he hath spoken: shall the shadow go forward ten steps, or go back ten steps?
10 And Hezekiah answered, It is a light thing for the shadow to decline ten steps: nay, but let the shadow return backward ten steps. (Prov 4:18 - the path of the righteous is as the dawning light, That shineth more and more unto the perfect day.)

Our Role on the Earth in the Tribulation

We are the Feet of the Body of Christ that comes up against the toes of the Beast Statue of Dan 2.
Eph 1:22, Ps 47:3, Jn 5:27, Gen 1:26,28, Mal 4:3, Heb 2:6-8, 10:13, Ps 8:4-6, Dan 2:41-45

We are the ones who bring down the Beast
Zech 14:4 – His feet on mount of Olives
Mount of Olives is the Mount of Abominations (1 kgs 11:1, 5, 7-8)
Tell mountain to be cast into the sea (under the curse)
Saints reign on earth Rev 5:9

Feet of men are given to share the gospel

What is the Abomination that Makes Desolate?
Rom 12:1, 1 Pet 2:9 – we are the priests who have a continual sacrifice – our own lives.
Acts 7:48, 17:24 – God no longer dwells in temples made with hands
Acts 15:16,1 Cor 3:16, 6:18, Col 1:18, 2 Tim 4:8, 1 Jn 1:6, 4:2, Eph 4:15, Isa 66:1, 2 Cor 4:11, Zech 14:4, Ps 47:3, Mal 4:3 – we are the temple of the God in the New Testament
Dan 9:27 – the only sacrifice that will cease is the lives of those reprobated for taking the mark.
Dan 8, Mt 24 – Abomination that maketh Desolate
2 Tim 2:3-4 Judas – Son of Perdition, restrainer (Holy Spirit) removed, then demons enter corporate body of people labeled Perdition, who will persecute the saints.

First time, it was a pig on the alter by Antiochus Epiphanes, Spiritually, now, it is the sacrifice of a spiritual pig, whose appetite is its belly, who prove that the appetite is their god by taking the mark to buy/sell.