The Q and A

reply to post by AWingAndASigh


If my thinking on this is right, the only way the Secret Service would be able to stop this is to assassinate Bush, which pretty much goes against every one of their orders. They could blab, but nobody's going to believe them without proof. No matter how anti-Bush the public opinion may be, they are still as delusional as they've always been. They won't want to believe in anything that may be uncomfortable to their thinking if they don't have hard evidence. The only chance of a Secret Service agent would have to thwart this would be to get really lucky and hope some evidence wasn't destroyed and then find a way to get it to the public without being found out.

Originally posted by no_one817
Im an atheist now, Ill say that.

Care to expound upon that? Evidently you were a theist before working at A51, but are now an atheist. What about A51 has turned you into an atheist?

Originally posted by loam

Originally posted by no_one817
Because that intention was made aware as the more catastrophic, the easier people would accept Bush staying in office.

Understood. So more of a 'think-tank' , 'what-if' exercise.

Earlier I asked you why you came to this site and whether this event would be preventable.

You responded:

Originally posted by no_one817
The reason I see fit to say something is I cannot and sit wand watch as my country falls apart. Yes I am a culprit, I perpetuated the plan by being apart of it. I have my own morals I have to deal with. I see this as one step towards redeeming myself being able to look at fellow man in the eyes

So given what we have discussed, I assume that the event is not preventable because you have insufficient detail to do otherwise.

How is it, then, coming to this site materially changes your position of having to watch our "country fall apart"?

Please do not take that question with offense. I'm genuinely interested in an answer.

What's the one question that hasn't been asked of you that should?


[edit on 6-2-2008 by loam]

I have the insufficient means but that doesn't mean its set in stone. Somewhere down the line the plan might be scrapped. Coming to this site only was a way to take the weight off my shoulders. I take no offense sir. TO any comment, even the person calling me a traitor, I hope they eventually change their mind and understand how little I really am in the process and just see me as someone who feels guilty for knowing something. I'd much rather have respect than be known as a traitor.

Do you think they would use the holograms to stage some kind of an invasion? Are there plans for anything beyond 2012? Do you think we can destroy an asteroid?

[edit on 6-2-2008 by The Universal Mind]

reply to post by no_one817


I knew you wouldn't give the callsign because obviously you don't know it.

Note that the various functions in the general Nellis range area (TTR, NTS, GL) use different private security firms. EG&G for GL, WSI for the NTS, and the Washington Group for the TTR. [It used to be ASI.]

Seriously, before you some scamming, do some research first. Make it a challenge to out you as a faker.

Originally posted by no_one817
I have the insufficient means but that doesn't mean its set in stone. Somewhere down the line the plan might be scrapped. Coming to this site only was a way to take the weight off my shoulders. I take no offense sir. TO any comment, even the person calling me a traitor, I hope they eventually change their mind and understand how little I really am in the process and just see me as someone who feels guilty for knowing something. I'd much rather have respect than be known as a traitor.

Then if you are genuine, I wish you and the rest of us luck.

And if you are not, I hope you have sufficiently amused yourself.

Thank you for answering my questions.

Originally posted by gariac
reply to post by no_one817

 

I knew you wouldn't give the callsign because obviously you don't know it.

Note that the various functions in the general Nellis range area (TTR, NTS, GL) use different private security firms. EG&G for GL, WSI for the NTS, and the Washington Group for the TTR. [It used to be ASI.]

Seriously, before you some scamming, do some research first. Make it a challenge to out you as a faker.

Why should I give you the callsign? What purpose would it serve. Thats something I wont ever do. If it means Im a hoax, fine. Then put me on ignore.

reply to post by no_one817


Will this martial law be localized around the event or will this be a nation wide martial law???

Who will be enforcing the martial law?? the UN??? blackwater????

Later,...... Ausable_Bill

reply to post by no_one817
I would give my life at any given second for my country. Don't cry to me about respect sir. You have intelligence that a terrorist attack and an assassination attempt is going to take place. You have a duty to your country to report just that. If you do not sir, you will be held accountable as if you pulled the trigger yourself.

Are other countries involved in this plan?

reply to post by Xcalibur254


Go on to some of the Democratic web sites to see what people are saying and then talk to me about how willing the public would be to believe Bush was behind a terror attack to stay in power.

As I said previously, it's a cliche conspiracy theory. There's quite a bit of talk going on among Democrats about that very thing, and I DON'T think they would calmly accept it. They already accuse Bush of propaganda every time the Administration mentions Al Qaeda or Iran. A good example is the reaction they had to the recent confrontation with Iranian boats by the US Navy. Do a search on one of these sites and take a look at what they had to say about it.

For another illustration, check out the voter turnout in the Primary election. In some states, Democratic turnout outnumbered Republican turnout by two or three to one. The reason for this is Democrats are absolutely determined to see change in the White House. The mood in the country is like nothing I've ever seen before in my lifetime, and I'm not that young.

There would NOT be a calm reaction to a Bush attempt to stay in power, and I truly believe it would lead to a civil war.

Originally posted by TEMELUCHUS
reply to post by no_one817

 

I would give my life at any given second for my country. Don't cry to me about respect sir. You have intelligence that a terrorist attack and an assassination attempt is going to take place. You have a duty to your country to report just that. If you do not sir, you will be held accountable as if you pulled the trigger yourself.

Do you not understand that I have zero proof. I can't just call up the local police and give this to them. DO you have any idea how many terrorist threat s are called in to the police and FBI on a daily basis? I then will have my clearance revoked and bank accounts emptied. For what? I will prove nothing.

reply to post by Ausable_Bill


Wouldn't it be ironic if Bush really were planning something like this, and he can't pull it off because the military - including the national guard - is overstretched in Iraq and Afghanistan and he doesn't have the warm bodies to carry out his master plan?

IMO, the American people wouldn't accept martial law administered by Blackwater OR the UN.

The UN is also pretty left leaning, and they wouldn't do squat to help Bush crack down on America.

Who's left to do the dirty work? Where does he get the people to pull off martial law in the middle of a war where we're already overstretched?

reply to post by no_one817


You could, however, go to Congress for a little chat. They're supposed to have oversight, even though Bush wants to prevent it. Some of the Republicans might not be adverse to such a Bush plan (although some would), but there are a lot of Democrats who would scream bloody murder.

Democrats in Congress are pretty impotent right now, but I think they'd get motivated if they think one or more of their Presidential candidates might get assassinated.

Where you work would add to your credibility even if you don't have a lot of proof. If you had the names of people who could be talked to for verification and/or investigation, it would be a start. It would also be a heads up that there might be an assassination attempt, which would boost security.

It would be pretty hard for Bush to deny his involvement if Congress were informed in advance, and then the event happened as described.

Originally posted by no_one817
I say that because of what I know. Religion is literally power's first ever tool of disinfo.

Someone was beginning to mention this earlier. I debriefed a group of individuals who were literally in charge of coming up with a plan to delay the upcoming election. This power order came from W. Bush. While Bush has never stepped foot at gl, he is made aware of certain things that go on there. This being one of them. This is special because only two presidents, that I'm aware of, have had information brought to them about direct projects at all. That would be H.W and W. The bush family has had power in the defense world, in this country for quite some time.

This doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a couple of reasons.

First, "religion" and God are two totally different things. Do some people use "religion" for their own means and ends, including the manipulation of others? Absolutely. Does that mean there is no God? That's a laughable jump to conclusion. That would be akin to saying "The 'alien autopsy' was proven false, so that means there were no aliens at Roswell'.

Secondly, what has Bush supposedly trying to have the election delayed got to do with being an athiest? Sounds like it's a pet conspiracy theory of yours that you just couldn't wait to stick in somewhere in one of your answers. Odd.

reply to post by AWingAndASigh


I don't think he could count on the rank and file military to do his dirty work either.

Remember what Jim Morrison said,..........

"They got the guns,......... But we got the numbers!"

I think this plan is counting on a bunch of fat lazy sheeple, and then it still might not work.

Later,...... Ausable_Bill

reply to post by no_one817
As a matter of fact sir, I do! You are condemning to death 100's maybe 1000's of lives because your a coward? Sir if you had any conscience what so ever you would do the right thing. I know you have never been to 51 but you insist on this charade. You have stated though that you are privy to an upcoming event and that the President of the United States is conspiring to kill American citizens on American soil. You are in so above your head now you have no idea.

He meant to say agnostic, not athiesm... then everything makes sense ;p

Originally posted by TEMELUCHUS
reply to post by no_one817

 

As a matter of fact sir, I do! You are condemning to death 100's maybe 1000's of lives because your a coward? Sir if you had any conscience what so ever you would do the right thing. I know you have never been to 51 but you insist on this charade. You have stated though that you are privy to an upcoming event and that the President of the United States is conspiring to kill American citizens on American soil. You are in so above your head now you have no idea.

Now you dont make sense... If I havent been to gl, then everything I said would be a hoax, why would you care at that point? I know its fun to be the other side of the coin, but now your not even making sense

no_one, are other countries involved in this conspiracy, or is a complete inside job