Update: February 4, 2008 - Fourth Undersea Fiber Optic Cable Cut.

Anybody consider that the earth plates are moveing and cuasing the cables to be strech and then break, Maybe planet X is comming.
Just a thought.
Preston.

Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan

Originally posted by mel1962
reply to post by 4thDoctorWhoFan

 

If Iran has no internet . . . than who is placing false reports that they do???

That is a good question. Perhaps both are correct. The land lines might be cut off but I'm sure they have satellite access unless that is also being taken care of and we just don't know yet.

I was looking into this, and maybe the answer is simple. Perhaps the main router for Iran was changed to a different router, to move traffic away from the fiber break, but the Internet Monitor has not change the IP to the new router. Also, there is more than one router for the whole country. The have land fiber going to Turkey from what I've read.

So, here's what I'm thinking. Correct me if it's wrong.
Each country is assigned a number. IANA is the authority who controls this. The countries assigned numbers are then associated with a block of unused IP addresses.

Iran's has 2 assigned numbers. One is not used. The other is assigned a variety of IP addresses. In the last 7 days they have changed/added/announced several new IP address for the country.

+ 80.191.160.0/19 Announced
+ 80.191.192.0/19 Announced
+ 80.191.224.0/21 Announced
+ 85.185.160.0/19 Announced
+ 85.185.192.0/19 Announced
+ 85.198.19.0/24 Announced
+ 217.218.32.0/19 Announced
+ 217.218.64.0/20 Announced
+ 217.218.64.0/24 Announced
+ 217.218.67.0/24 Announced

Like I said, I'm thinking that maybe the IP address have changed to new routers, to move traffic away to the undersea fiber cable breaks, and that the internet monitor has not yet updated the changed IP address to a new Iranian router.

So, does Iran have internet connectivity?
If you look at the Assigned number page that shows the updated IP address allocation, you will see that it lists upstream and downstream traffic allocations. I took a downstream one. University of Tehran. The website for the University of Tehran opens fine. Its address Geo-Locates to Terhan.

*Note* Terhan is also the location of the router that the internet monitor lists as down.

I have not tried all of the downstream IP addresses, but it does appear that yes, Iran has some internet connectivity.

I also found a large list of gov.ir websites listed. I have not gone thru them all, but some do Geo-Locate to Iran, and are functional.

What do you think of my theory?


I also note that the Iranian Embassy says everything is fine.



[edit on 2/4/08 by makeitso]

Under water internet cables cut and Israel tells citizens to prepare rocket rooms for future military action. Sounds like a lead up to an attack on someone. Maybe Iran????
God help us all.
I truly wonder why Russia and China are just sitting back and letting America set up bases all over the world. Hmmmm..!?!?!?

I'm new and not very good at tracking my links as proof but...a Vancouver based company just sold (2 weeks ago) the RADARSAT system to an american contractor ATK technologies. This satellite system was touted in Canada as being the next wave of broadband up-and-down internet service that would cover 98% of the country. About 6 months ago all news reports regarding the new full country broadband service quietly stopped. Next thing was the launch (2 of them) and then the sale. It cost 1.1 billion in tax payer dollars and then sold to the americans for around the same price...literally just weeks after all systems became fully operational. Fibre is obsolete now and the "west" doesn't need it. Although the sale still has to be approved by can. federal govt, all operation and control has been transfered to the states in preparation for full take over and completion of the sale.

Again I apologize for not providing my links but I read everything I can find on any page I can about these types of things looking for trends. I believe this information to be relevant.

reply to post by sylvie


While you're all trying to decide who to point the finger at for this:

iranian submarines

In 1993, Iran bought two Russian Kilo-class submarines and eight mini-submarines from North Korea.

and why?

iranian internet censorship

Iran is now considered to be one of the most repressive Internet-censorship regimes in the world.

Asked and answered ...

reply to post by mrmonsoon


Russia is NOT the one that has been invading countries like they are nothing. The USA is. Not saying your not right, but if anyone should be accused of "looking for reason to invade/station troops/put up military instillations" you can look at the recent past to see who the top suspect should be.

I think they just misunderstood the english translation when someone said they wanted to cut their cable [TV] price.

Egypt's Communications Ministry reported Sunday that damage to the undersea internet cables in the Mediterranean was not caused by ship anchors, as previously speculated. In fact, the Egyptian transport ministry said that onshore video cameras at the location of the damaged cables did not show any ship traffic in the area when the communication cables were damaged.

Already posted here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

must have been missed.

Not an accident. JMHO.

Iran is now considered to be one of the most repressive Internet-censorship regimes in the world.

If Iran already censors their internet, why would they need to cut some undersea cables? What would that achieve?

i think plenty of people have things to gain from this. In the same timeline as the cable's being cut Russia is having the largest naval exercise in 15 years.

Russia also sees a growing probability of hostilities breaking out in the Gulf and has responded by sending a naval task force into the Mediterranean Sea and the North Atlantic.

According to an article on the Global Research site:

“The flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, the Moskva guided missile cruiser, joined up with Russian naval warships in the Mediterranean on January 18 to participate in the current maneuvers....The current operation is the first large-scale Russian Navy exercise in the Atlantic in 15 years. All combat ships and aircraft involved carry full combat ammunition loads.

www.globalresearch.ca...
globalresearch.ca...

and france...

France is also planning military maneuvers in the Straits of Hormuz. Operation "Gulf Shield 01," will take place off the coast of Iran and will employ thousands of personnel in combined arms operations that will include simulated attacks on oil platforms.”

Exercises are scheduled to take place from Feb. 23 to March 5, and will involve 1,500 French, 2,500 Emirate, and 1,300 Qatari personnel operating on land, at sea and in the air, the ministry said..."Around a half-dozen warships, 40 aircraft and dozens of armored vehicles will be in the war games", Fusalba said.

www.defensenews.com...

and all this goes down right after Bush leavse the middle east.. Clearly talks of peace were not a big toppic..
wait and see if the only thing we can do right now...

Since we've talked about what a euro-denominated oil bourse could do to the US dollar, here's some more information on that:

The answer to this question could come as early as this week, since the long-awaited Iranian Oil Bourse is scheduled to open between February 1-11. According to Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari, “All preparations have been made to launch the bourse; it will open during the 10-day Dawn (the ceremonies marking the victory of the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran) The bourse is considered a direct threat to the continued global dominance of the dollar because it will require that Iranian “oil, petrochemicals and gas” be traded in “non-dollar currencies”. (Press TV, Iran)

The petrodollar system is no different than the gold standard. Today's currency is simply underwritten by the one vital source of energy upon which every industrialized society depends---oil. If the dollar is de-linked from oil; it will no longer serve as the de-facto international currency and the US will be forced to reduce its massive trade deficits, rebuild its manufacturing capacity, and become an export nation again. The only alternative is to create a network of client regimes who repress the collective aspirations of their people so they can faithfully follow directives from Washington.

As to whether the Bush administration would start a war to defend dollar hegemony; that's a question that should be asked of Saddam Hussein. Iraq was invaded just six months after Saddam converted to the euro. The message is clear; the Empire will defend its currency.

Similarly, Iran switched from the dollar in 2007 and has insisted that Japan pay its enormous energy bills in yen. The “conversion” has infuriated the Bush administration and made Iran the target of US belligerence ever since. In fact, even though 16 US Intelligence agencies issued a report (NIE) saying that Iran was not developing nuclear weapons; and even though the UN's nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, found that Iran was in compliance with its obligations under the Nuclear Nonproliferation (NPT) Treaty; a preemptive US-led attack on Iran still appears likely.

And, although the western media now minimizes the prospects of another war in the region; Israel is taking the precautions that suggest that the idea is not so far-fetched. “Israel calls for shelter rooms to be set up in a bid to prepare the public for yet another war, this time, one of raining missiles.” (Press TV, Iran)

www.globalresearch.ca...

I guess that last sentence says it all. There is definitely something brewing.

[edit on 5-2-2008 by sylvie]

[edit on 5-2-2008 by sylvie]

Perhaps the cables where cut as a diversion .... like 180 degrees out of the middle east to make sure none of us noticed something else being installed.

That is using drastic measures to implement the next generation of eavesdropping.

Another thought ... the cables where cut as retaliation for the tumbling out of orbit satellite.

Now, 8 or 9 lines down?????

"one off of Marseille, France
two off of Alexandria, Egypt
one off of Dubai, in the Persian Gulf
one off of Bandar Abbas, Iran in the Persian Gulf
one between Qatar and the UAE, in the Persian Gulf
one in the Suez, Egypt
one near Penang, Malaysia"

It really seems like the MR is being isolated

Source

Pleae Note that the reference to that links post are at the bottom of that post.

OK, I now have to admit it. It's me that's been cutting all the cables around the ME and India.

You see, I finally got tired of all the people attempting to use al-jazeera as a legitimate news source for their posts here. Plus, I was tired of all the "Indian air force kicks a$$ ..." posts. And finally, posts like the one awhile back that showed pictures of all the natural beauty in iran and asked how we could contemplate blowing all that up (even though that's all that really would be left in iran if the U.S. did attack them) that finally pushed me over the edge into these drastic measures. Everyone says they want peace in the ME, well I gave you all at least some temporary peace - peace from all that yammering ... BTW, russia is next in my plans for "world peace" (and quiet).



Ships anchors? No way. Look at the timing between incidents. It took just one submarine going from cable to cable ...

[edit on 2/6/2008 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by preston067
Anybody consider that the earth plates are moveing and cuasing the cables to be strech and then break, Maybe planet X is comming.
Just a thought.
Preston.

Cmon now! The Plates are not moving. The Earth is growing. See this link to Neal Adams Movie

Anyway, cables would have to be there for about 1 million years to snap from the earth movement!

Planet X has nothing to do with the Americans preparing to unload on Iran.

Mode Note

to cable cutter fans

Please post any new information on this into one of the existing threads and do not open another new one.

Lets keep the board tidy, and kudos to all the contributions so far. The speculation/commentary has been pretty cool.