New bill would make it illegal for restaurants to serve the obese

Uhm... do they force you to eat it or something?

I for one rarely leave a restaurant without a doggie bag. If they want to lose profits from repeat business by selling me more food than I need in one sitting, they'll get no complaint from me!

Originally posted by jackinthebox
There are very few rich people who are fat.

Hah! You don't know very many "rich people" then. I had a 400-pound salesman tell me "What? You think poor people can afford to eat as much as I do?"

If you look at history the affluent are often fat. It has largely been a status symbol until recently. Just look at old cartoons. The rich big-wig is always rather round. Where do you think the term "fat cat" came from?

I have yet to see a fat person standing on the corner with a "Will work for food" sign.

As far as the poor people that are fat, maybe what is making them poor is also making them fat. Like sitting on the couch all day and not working. Maybe we should be more strict on what they can purchase with their food stamps. That's a lot better than saying anyone, rich or poor, who breaks the scale is to be denied food.






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People, People...

You dont know what its like to eat unhealthy till you go to south American countries where you eat everything fried in LARD, breakfast, lunch, snacks and supper! The only offense here is the bread, and that's not that bad at all.
Picture this: Eating last nights left overs which consisted of rice, beans, pork soaked in grease...lunch, some more rice, bread, maybe make a sandwich out of the greasy pork for a change. For supper, it will be fried potatoes, fried steak (in lard) and white rice with plenty of lard in it.
Notice i say LARD, and not oil.
I grew up that way, so did everyone else in my past. Would it surprise you to know that, due to the sedentary life, and lack of constant stress, also the security a job has in other countries, (which is forever unless you screw up real bad) people live longer? They are healthy. They have a good heart.
What i'm saying is stress can cause your body to store fat. We have it good in this country, and i wouldnt change it for the old relaxed days in another country, but that being said, i am here to tell you FAT is due to all the stress we have to endure on a daily basis, IMO, of course.
My entire family and those i know grew up eating these things i mentioned and not one of us is fat.
Now, if that same food was eaten here on a daily basis, we'd be FAAAAT.

I attribute fat to the lifestyle and stress. As long as you're stressed you will have to eat like a bird. There is much worry about bills, and mortgages, car payments, competition at work, and the list goes on and on and on, and this will cause your body to store fat.
Sure, lots of these places serve junk food. They dont hold a gun to our heads and tell us to go there. We go of our own free will.
There is NO end to the stupidity these days of the government wanting to run our lives. They want to destroy America and run what we do, what we eat. IMO, these people are just plain nuts.

Fried plantains, anyone????

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Pero a mi me encantan los platanos fritos, dg.

The fat just get fatter because they can't or won't get healthy on their own. The law is obviously wrong but it's also getting the word out and thats probably why it was even initiated in the first place even knowing it would never get passed.

I have no remorse for obese people that won't help themselves. If you aren't trying to excerise and eat right to make yourself better then you get whats coming even a stupid law as stated. My nephew who is 14 is grossly fat. I hear all his excuses but also see that he sits around , eats crap food all day and does no excercising at all. Maybe the gov't should step in and handle what people can't or won't do in their own. The countries future is at stake. Health as a whole.

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Cuando quieras, yo te hago un plato de platanos fritos en
manteca!!!
A mi tambien me gustan.

Fact check... The world's nations possessing the greatest adipose tissue? the results may surprise some: Forbes list of nations The USA weighs-in at 74%, number 9 in the rankings... not many South American obese, good cooking or not. Canada? Number 35. They're just stats... LOL.

Cheers,

Vic

Originally posted by dgtempe

Picture this: Eating last nights left overs which consisted of rice, beans, pork soaked in grease...lunch, some more rice, bread, maybe make a sandwich out of the greasy pork for a change. For supper, it will be fried potatoes, fried steak (in lard) and white rice with plenty of lard in it.
Notice i say LARD, and not oil.

The food that you described there is also pretty popular in the Southern US. I think this could be why the South tends to have a lot of obesity. On the map that someone posted earlier, I think I recall Alabama and Mississippi as being the worst. I live in Louisiana, and have my whole life. Most of the food here makes me sick, because it's too greasy, or too rich. To compound the issue, I am from New Orleans, which is famous for its cuisine. There is a lot of tasty food, but a lot of unhealthy food.

I think a lot of the obesity in the South is due to cultural attitudes, and traditional foods. I eat very little meat, but homemade fried chicken just makes me smile.

By the way, even though I grew up here, I am not fat at all. I am 5'8", 120 pounds. I played a lot of soccer when I was younger, and was into weight training for a while. Now that I am working, I don't have as much time for exercise, but I still don't like to eat a lot of fatty foods. I just wanted to throw that in before people started to make assumptions about my weight and health based on geography.

Originally posted by jprophet420
you should be allowed to put anything in your body you want, provided it doesent belong to someone else.

100% agreed with you...
we don't need the gov or anyone else regulating what we can eat after a certain weight....
the counter person is going to be the authority on if we are obese?

say there is a weight limit...are the people serving the food gonna have the customer hop on a scale and do a body mass index on them?

this is #in retarded and so is anyone who is on board......

what about people that get fat from meds or illnesses...things like that.
i recently got put on a medication and since the day before thanksgiving i have put on a touch more than 40 pounds.
thats quite a lot...

there are so many variable to this and nevermind the fact that it is a huge intrusion into our lives.
the restaurants gonna have a kiosk set up with nurses to scope us before we order?

the friggin people that work these fast food joints can barely get an order correct and now we're supposed to think that they can judge who is obese and who is not....?

come on people

Wow...

Props to ya Boondock... We need to hang out sometime. Maybe eat some tater chips and drink a diet sody!

It appears the folks in Mississippi might just have it almost right.

This post reads like the beginnings of a fat people lynch mob. It's sort of starting off with, "I don't like fat people, but... " and going from there. Sounds similar to "I don't hate (insert your favorite euphemism here). As a matter of fact, some of my best friends are (re-insert your favorite euphemism here).

Get over it... Not everyone in the world is going to be perfect like you, whether it be organic food, non-smoking, non-drinking, non-whatever.

There are going to be people who live a certain lifestyle, and be fat, or morbidly obese, and you may not be able to do anything about it, except dislike them or feel pity for them. Maybe, for whatever the reason, they don't want or need your help. Folks choose different ways to live and die. Sometimes all you can do is stand by and watch. That, unfortunately for some of you is called life. And life is free for each of us to live or end as we see fit.

I'm not normally down on the folks on this forum, it makes a much better life for me, but Daaaammmmn! You sound like a bunch of chippies on a pump handle bad mouthing fat folks... Otherwise, why such a long thread?

Sorry... Guess I'll piss off some folks, but hey... It's still a relatively free environment that us humans live in.

C ya!

OH.... Anybody know why Hyenas laugh??? Because they know what's coming next.

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Yep. And people thought Henry Kissinger's "food as a weapon" agenda was for the third world. No sir, that agenda was designed as a tool against Americans.

Look at all the Rockefeller-funded organizations deeply entrenched in the "food as a weapon" agenda, especially CSPI (campaigned against stable fats and advocated trans fats in the 1980s, advocated aspartame and sucralose in the past, all for the Codex Alimentarius agenda, the most vocal critic in America of Stevia) and their controlled opposition, consumerfreedom.com (funded by several corporate members of the Council on Foreign Relations).

This bill is nothing but a population-control agenda. Chances are very likely that the bill's sponsors/co-sponsors take Rockefeller's dirty money. The Rockefellers are seeking every way to implement their stated goal of a worldwide population reduction of 80%. Take away the people's foods, and the people starve to death. The population reduction agenda will be achieved by mass starvation.

Originally posted by Hypntick
Living on the border of Mississippi, and having to deal with quite a few people from the state makes me realize one thing if such an insane bill were to pass, you'd have a lot of very upset people wanting their fast food. I think there might even be incidents of violence taking place.

And this is precisely why all the police departments throughout the United States are becoming militarized. The moment a violent uprising takes place (most likely from the actions of some black-op agents), the militarized police will show up and indiscriminately gun down as many dissenters as they see fit.

Originally posted by johnnyforeigner
WTF? I mean what next obese terrorists? This same stuff is going on in the UK, where they are trying to establish criteria on who gets medical assistance etc; perhaps they should encouraging these places to serve healthier food instead of ‘extra greasy fried salads’ etc.

More like "fat people are the new Jews".........how ironic, since the heads of both CSPI (Michael Jacobson) and consumerfreedom.com (Rick Berman) are of the Jewish faith.

This proposed law shows how little some politicians think of at least some of the people that they are elected to represent, much less of the State and Federal Constitutions that they are supposed to adhere to. Sure, being obese, like I am, may have certain health risks. That does not mean that others have the right to make fun of it or try to control how much I eat or where I can eat. That is something that only I can decide to do for myself. I seriously hope that most of the politicians in the Mississppi House of Representatives have enough sense to vote down this proposed law.

The next thing we will have in the U.S. is to have to pass bills like the right to eat state. In other words you have the right to eat what ever and where ever you please. As long as it isn't protected game, species or human LOL Rik Riley

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That is absolutly correct! Us Americans cannot afford to buy natural/organic foods because they are so expensive! The reason that they are expense it probably because we use chemicals and man-made ingredents in our foods and don't grow the organic foods as much. If they really wanted people to become thinner, they should 1) Lower the cost of organic foods 2) Use chemicals less in our foods (I know that will be so hard for them to do) 3) Trade Peanut Oil for Olive Oil or even Coconut Oil which are much better than the Peanut one. However, everyone should get great deals on organics, not just people who are said to be overweight or obese.

Eating "non-organic" foods does not make one fat.

Eating 500 calorie each frozen bean burritos makes one fat.

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Eating foods with preservatives and pesticides makes one unhealthy, and that can lead to being overweight.

"Organic" doesn't usually mean anything these days. It started for a noble purpose, but now any old company can buy the label and they don't necessarily have to be organically produced.

The FDA/USDA does not typically do their own testing, nor do they send an employee to every single food production site...There's simply too many.

It's actually cheaper to grow your own foods than to buy your foods so that excuse does not work. People always claim that they don't have the time yet they have more than enough time to be on the internet than be exercising or growing their own organic foods that are pennieless when you do them yourself.

A part of the NWO. Keep everyone, everything, every event separate as much as possible.

They keep us busy arguing about smoking, the superbowl, the next president, the decades old Yucca mountain debate, effects of obesity, racism, gay/straight etc. In the end we are all slaves just fighting over pieces of crumbs, and which slaves get the most lashes. It keeps us occupied, and keeps the sheeple blind to what is really going on in the world. These issues could be solved in a year by rational people who didn't twist and turn every word, but the sheeple have been trained to keep rationalities out of the conversation. Just keep contributing to this thread, instead of the one about how cutting communcations wires was a precursor to WWII, and the fact that the communication wires have just been cut in the middle east, and poof, one has a diversion for the sheeple.