Anti-gravity and the search for Dr. Ning-Li

I think is time for human kind to wake up and face the truth that we are never alone, our system of money & power & global politics has made our minds blind, its time we reach out to other planets ,we are born with free will, to go and explore other planets , our society social presures that keep us like working battery, not able to think or desire but keep buy products and keep this world system going. its time we all have desire to know the truth by disclosing world wide, i think it will bring peace to world , people will finally get over their religious wars as we are not alone and start thinking universal not global.
let the truth be told, technolgies be created & learned on public sector, lets us humans explore & learn the truth even if its bitter, let us have God Speed to go to other planets & have same previlage as other alien races has to visit us on earth.
Sam Orr.

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No mystery here! Her ideas appeared to be bunk, if only because she wouldn't give up data or theoretical calculations to prove their validity. She was a victim of her own paranoia. No money was ever dispersed to her or her company by DARPA or anyone else beyond the initial NASA project because she would never give up any evidence that it really worked. In the end, she couldn't generated any interest in funding because all she could offer to potential investors was a "trust me" ... and they wanted more assurance than that of an ROI. She wouldn't publish anything, and wouldn't turn over any data, her company went broke, and the university wouldn't hire her back, so she left and went back to China.

Just wanted to throw this in just in case it was missed.

A photo of the elusive Ms. Li.

Sam Orr,
I couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more...
Well said.

The question is how do we break this thousands years old enslavement wall?

Dear Ms Lee,

I am working for a chinese cloths company: I have written a text about BEC. And I need your Bibliograpy of aricle: "Bose-Einstein and Anti-Gravity"

The Best regards
Hakakaka

Dr Ning Li is not far from Huntsville ALA. She is one of 27,000 contractors working at Redstone in Huntsville. This is the place that Operation Paperclip brought von Braun to in 1940's. The project was funded with $1.1B USD in 2002.

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Why was Anonynous user's comment removed from this thread?

it likely was either inappropriate or way off topic.

I don't like the anonymous poster feature.

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you do realize however, I hope, that some who are more
knowledgeable have to post anonymously, from anonymous
surf platforms, and paid internet shops?

did you see the post removed?

Shoot I noticed several threads that I follow had anonymous posts that never showed up. As I understand it is a matter of moderators to include them. On one thread I shot a U2U to moderator and he did include it

Great work guys - I remember reading the PM article way back then. I still have it and made a point to save the magazine. I "knew" this discovery would go black, I just knew it. I tried looking into her work I think around the time she sent Tim Ventura that email; it peaked my interest of course I had the same problem - no info on her or the disk.

It makes me wonder if you really need $500K to duplicate the experiments. Surely this can be done on a lower budget considering the info available about the Russian superconductor and Li's work.

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no. what was it about?

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I have no answer to that.

Around 2000 I was thinking about writing The Great UFO Novel and doing a lot of Net Research. I came across Podlektnov (or whatever he's called) and of course Ning Li's work. I'd heard she was working for NASA but there's no surprise that she was given something of a run-around there.

There was an article I also remember from, I think, New Scientist, that said Boeing were going to look into antigravity. They mentioned (as did an earlier poster in this thread) that even a small weight or mass reduction would mean huge savings on fuel.

At the time, I thought, "aha! This story's going overground. About time," but of course was so very, very wrong.

Great thread, BFFT. Awesome research all round and proof that there's still intelligent life in ATS (which I'd been beginning to doubt).

what hasnt been said yet is that ning li's method of anti gravity is definitive proof of electrogravity in action.

as said it works by precisly controlling the orbits of the bose einstien condensates electrons.
the uniform orbit of these atomic electrons results in a uniform electrogravetic warp field.
electrons warp space time,thus a uniform current/movement of electrons warps space time uniformly.
the kind of motion the electrons undertake is frame dragging,a movement that is caused by spinning matter,a spinning warp field.

frame dragging has the result of expanding a matter systems warp field and most importantly thinning the warp field at the centre of mass,essentially forming a zero gravity zone at the centre of spinning matter,
this is why there is a zero gravity zone at the centre od the earth,frame dragging creates a zero gravity zone at the centre of spin.

the frame drag electrogravetic warpfield has the same effect,causing a zero gravity zone at the nucleus of the atoms comprising the bose einstien condensate.

why is electrogravity classified as pseudoscience by wiki and ignored by ai controled mainstream?....becasue electro gravity is the easiest method of creating anti grav via warping space time and more importantly ELECTROGRAVITY IS PROOF OF SPACE TIME and warping of space time being gravity.....

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years back I read an article about how time measured
in a system with electrical current on affected end results...
I can't find the article anymore.

however assuming that simple current has such an effect,
what would it take for electrons to synchronously move
in a circular fashion? this is not the state of e movements
in regular currents where they move linearly and at a very
very slow velocity.

please clarify.

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Other inventors of similar superconducting gravity-shielding:

en.wikipedia.org...

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A scientist in Austria, Dr. Tajmar, has published several papers regarding rotating superconductors and resulting gravitational anomolies. He originally theorized the effect was due to the rotating superconductor but later results he is saying the effect is due to the rotating helium used to cool the superconductor. Note that Dr. Jack Sarfatti Pt4 on YouTube (the one where he says Ning Li is China) mentions something about being an expert on helium fluids. Me thinks there is more here than meets the eye.

This is one of my fav threads. It's amazing how someone can just disappear like that. It will be interesting to see what develops in the future.

Thanks for reminding me of Ning Li OP!

I did some research on her work amany moons ago (2000 ish). Most of the info seems to have disappeared off the web now for whatever reason.

If I remember correctly, a number of respected physicists had independently verified her claims but some did not agree with her interpretation. I think Raymond Chiao from Berkley was one of these. Interstingly he is also named in the NS link below. I'm pretty sure the physicists were well respected ones and the source was credible.

I remember thinking at the time, "wow, it won't be long now!". I think the best guess is that Dr. Li and her team have been "employed" by the US military or its suppliers. Maybe she was "made an offer she couldn't refuse".

She also earned a mention in New Scientist.

BhuddaSystem is correct though, the explanations do sound pseudoscientific.