Reptilians = greys

Hello people,

After listening to an interview with Dr. Dan Burisch on the Project Camelot website (www.projectcamelot.org), I have been thinking about what he said about the reptilian aliens.

Burisch says that in his opinion, the "reptilian" looking aliens wich are reported, might actually be greys. If you are familiar with his claims, you'll know that the several types of "greys" are nothing more than the same being, but from diffirent time periods. As time passed, the greys (wich are us, humans!) got trouble with their bone structure and skin, wich got weaker and more brittle. That's why greys who come from a further time period than greys who come from a not so distant future, look somewhat diffirent.
The "further time period greys" have a flaky, reptilian looking skin. Also, the "mantis" alien may in fact be a grey, holding his arms in a certain position and having a mantis-like face. That's why people interpret them as being of a diffirent species, and thats where the reptilian alien and mantis alien types may origin from.

Burisch added that he himself is not sure about this. It might aswel be that there ARE reptilian species, and others as reported by the people.

If you're not into his work, you might want to view/listen to the interview.

I myself believe that there are in fact reptilian races and mantis-like races, and that this is not a misconception of a "misshapen" grey.

Dan Burisch

Thanks for bringing this up LeapordSeal. The world of Ufology is, as many of you realize, littered with misconceptions and it's nice to know that individuals, such as yourself, are willing to address the potential confusions and request clarification.

In regards to the Burisch comments....It is important for everyone to know that the Greys and Reptilians are uniquely separate species. PERIOD.

Saying that, it is also vital for us all to remember something we've all witnessed over the years. There are too many accounts of experiencer's seeing human-alien (baby) hybrids to ignore the possibility that they, the reptilians, have also intermixed other species groups for reasons unknown to most of us. Indeed, Reptilian+Grey hybrids appear to exist, just as it is now commonly believed that there are Reptilian+Human hybrids living amongst surface humanity. If there is any misidentification as to what species group the encountered being belonged to, it's most likely due to someone having contact with the biological result of their interspecies hybridization program.

When someone meets a being that has physical characteristics shared by both species groups, it's going to cloud the line of species delineation, but to suggest that Reptilians "might be" simply misidentified Greys, is pushing the barrier of imagination. It also indicates the speaker's distrust of thousands of experiencer's observations.

It seems as though the more lecturers in the field of ufology address the subject of reptilians, the more misinformation there is to wade through. (If the project Camelot duo wanted to share more about reptilians, they could easily do so. I was interviewed on camera by them after I spoke at the 2006 Bay Area UFO Conference, but the interview has never been uploaded to their site for people to review - Perhaps ATS members might contact them and ask why and could they see it).

Again, great question and I look forward to reading everyone's comments.

Thanks John. I agree with what you said, allthough I don't think Dr. Burisch is lying about this, he just doesn't know.

I contacted Kerry Cassidy, and she said that back then they were having some problems with the audio, so the footage might be lost. Darn

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Insightful and educational post

I wholeheartedly agree with John's appraisal.

The Reptilians, Greys, and Preying Mantises, are all distinct races. But there is a biological affiliation (as well as a political one) between the Greys and the other two which I would like to mention.

If you take a close look at the aliens in question, you can see that the Greys can very easily represent a genetic mix between the Preying Mantises and the Reptilians. As John has pointed out elsewhere in ATS, there is an abundance of ancient art depicting Reptilians. However, the Grey facet to the equation, although more widely reported by abductees than any other alien, is still a much more recent phenomenon

Not only are there Hybrids being cultivated through a long-term breeding program, with some of them likely performing covert operations in the surface population (e.g., monitoring threads like this one). But the short and tall Greys themselves probably came about through Reticulan genetic manipulation AFTER the first Anunnaki-Reptilians colonized this world hundreds of thousands of years ago.

Homo sapiens are therefore not the only cultivated race whose initial purpose is to serve The Zetan Empire

Don't you hate when that happens?

This topic is all well and good but how do you know greys/reptilians etc exist, is it through personal sightings, history or through other people claims, could you please clear this matter up again.

Posting in the John Rhodes section implies that we assume that aliens exist, furthermore, since mr Rhodes is researching reptilian aliens, posting here also assumes that we believe in their existence aswel.

This thread doesnt cover the question about wether greys or reptilians are real, but you can post you arguments about those matters in the alien/UFO section of the board.

I've specualted something along the lines. First off I'll state that the majority of "grey" aliens are "Good". However it's been recorded that several "grey" aliens joined in with the planetary rebelion. Disconnected from the ONE source and center, they would have started ageing. Without shelter, exposed to the sunlight, they may have started burning and thus this skin would look like scally and perhaps even flaky, and this would explain the "feathered reptilians".

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Sorry i stumbled apon this section by accident and i am intrigued, i do think that they could exist but im not sure how this all started out

sorry if i was being rude

peace out

Cool post didn't Philip Schneider say in one of his conventions that there were 11 different alien species that we know of? of coarse that is if he was telling the truth about what he saw.

That's okay Richard.

I believe Philip Schneider was being genuine. He was telling the truth. He had an encounter not with reptilians though I believe, but with tall greys. Cause they were REAL ugly he said, and there was this terrible odor, wich is linked to the greys and their excrement through the skin.

I have heard before that there are many types of alien beings, some maybe even native to this planet, of wich 11 types were or still are in contact with humans.
Some aliens are not visible on this plane of existance, they are higher beings who live in the higher dimensions.

Cause they were REAL ugly he said, and there was this terrible odor

Yes, its quite possible he met me at some point.

But what about the fact that the Greys/Reptilians wish to enslave the human race? New World Order?

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sounds interesting i will look into his work if i have time and remember but what are the reptillians

i personally believe, and i base this on absolutely nothing, that there are many different species of intelligent life in the universe.

The universe is unfathomably large, and it would make more sense that these beings are unrelated to eachother. I think that we are trying to rationalize Aliens into one group, when it may in fact be hundreds of different species that visited us.

The greys aren't be all, end all. There may be aliens that looks at greys the way they look at us.

i decided to post this after a conversaton i had with a fellow ATS'er in chat.

I had an encounter that was extremely violent in nature with a being that was scaled, around 6 feet tall, and with saucer sized round eyes.

Im not going into detail here due to the very nature of what happend, but after seeing this thread i thought I would ask.

Can any one tell me if there ever has been a report of a 'fish like humanoid', scaled, bronzed colour with large eyes and a golden garment being worn ?

I'd appreciate it greatly, Daniel.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna
i decided to post this after a conversaton i had with a fellow ATS'er in chat.

I had an encounter that was extremely violent in nature with a being that was scaled, around 6 feet tall, and with saucer sized round eyes.

Im not going into detail here due to the very nature of what happend, but after seeing this thread i thought I would ask.

Can any one tell me if there ever has been a report of a 'fish like humanoid', scaled, bronzed colour with large eyes and a golden garment being worn ?

I'd appreciate it greatly, Daniel.

Geez... Did it perchance look something like this?

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I saw a guy on the subway in Chicago, he wasnt really a guy, his skin looked wrong, his ears were not quite right in placement or shape and he never blinked. I watched him for about 1/2 and his eyes were rather large for his face and very dark in color. This guy creeped me out and kept staring at me the entire time.

Finally, my stop was approaching so I looked directly at him, I even moved my body and head to point right at him and contorted my face like a kid would do...He didnt react at first, then for a brief second made his face contort in the most evil look I have ever seen, then it went back to normal instantly making me question if he actually made that face at me. I freaked out as his eyes followed me off the train.

I will never forget those eyes and that face contorted.

There is the claim by Zulu shaman Credo Mutwa that at least one species of reptilians is actually native to Earth. There are also ancient Egyptian depictions on their wall carvings and paintings of a large-eyed, obviously non-human being. Resembles the little "greys" that have been illistrated so much elsewhere. Also, there is the story related by Gerry Zeitlin of the "Tall Whites" who have a slender humanoid appearance, and seem to be emotionally unstable, conceited, and somewhat homicidal.

My theory is,and it's just my theory,that the grays are from terra firma,a form of dinosaurs,not reptilian.
They were forced to go under ground millions of years ago do to cataclysmic events and evolved into a more advanced society then we hairy apes.

Think about it,3 fingers,grey,big black eyes.
You put the pieces together.