Draft reinstated, 2005

My recruiter didnt talk me into anything. I knew what I wanted and went in with my brother-in-law that was on leave from Ft. Benning. He went into the MEPS station and went through everything with me and the recruiter. We read all paperwork together and made sure I was getting screwed as little as possible. I am a rather patriotic person, so this is something I am really looking forward to doing. I know it wont be easy, but I am not expecting it to be. I might sound sick, but I like doing extremely physically challenging activities.

Originally posted by Pyros
My Navy recruiter never lied to me.

I have to wonder just what a Marine Corp. recruiter has to lie about to someone who ended up in the infanry? What, you didn't think you were gonna hafta run around with a 40lb ruksack in the jungle all day? You didn't think that anyone was gonna get in your face and make you DO STUFF? Stuff that was hard?

Sheesh.

No dunce, it was a joke. They may exagerate, but not lie.

You Navy guys must be pretty soft if you had 40 lbs on your back. #, that's an easy day.

So can you dodge the draft if your the son of a drug lord? AKA GWBush? I would like to see the fella`s that sent everyone else to war put their kids up for cannon fodder first, set an example.

I agree completely, lets see our fearless leaders send their sons off to battle to lead the way!!

Well I must say that I don't agree with this. I'm 20 years old and a Firefighter-Paramedic, I think that I perform a community service enough.

Originally posted by eRnie
So can you dodge the draft if your the son of a drug lord? AKA GWBush? I would like to see the fella`s that sent everyone else to war put their kids up for cannon fodder first, set an example.

we wouldn't be bitterly lashing out would we?

tsk tsk tsk.

Such anger. Grrr.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro

Originally posted by Pyros
My Navy recruiter never lied to me.

I have to wonder just what a Marine Corp. recruiter has to lie about to someone who ended up in the infanry? What, you didn't think you were gonna hafta run around with a 40lb ruksack in the jungle all day? You didn't think that anyone was gonna get in your face and make you DO STUFF? Stuff that was hard?

Sheesh.

No dunce, it was a joke. They may exagerate, but not lie.

You Navy guys must be pretty soft if you had 40 lbs on your back. #, that's an easy day.

LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Heck, the pogey bait I packed weighed more than that!!

Originally posted by Tetsuo-51
You have to fill out your Selective Service draft card, its the law.

If you dont, you have two choices:

1) Move to a different country (I wouldnt want you here anyway, we dont need pussies)

2) Go to jail (And if youre too scared to fill out your draft card, you wont last very long in prison)

Haha, when I was reading this I was looking at the painter guy in your avatar and couldn't help but laugh cause I pictured him saying it on his show with a big smile. But yeah, I filled out my Selective Service info once I turned 18 and the army hasn't given me #. I don't mind fighting if the war is a war where the United States was attacked by someone and we're retalliating. But I wouldn't want to fight a war like Bush's #in gay Iraq war where it was for nothing.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Seekerof.......
You listed Germany and Israel..not exactly good examples. Niether country is very free or safe.

This is supposed to be America. A volunteer army. The draft is absolute bull#. We do not need the draft. What we need is too pull troops from all these unnecessary commitments and overseas bases, and bring them home. We would have no problems then with strength.

Land of the free, huh? I think this could very well be the final step in turning the US into a military state. Forcing citizens to do something against their wishes is wrong. Plain and simple. They can kiss my a$$...

Originally posted by Shoktek

Originally posted by NexusAtom
Oh well, Im 26 so it looks like ill be to old by 2005..

Some of us aren't so lucky...I better start going to church every week to gain CO status come draft time!

Seriously though, I wouldn't run off when the draft comes, even if I do disagree with the war and don't want to go I probably still would..

Not sure if i'd be allowed to join anyways. Between an interesting past and relatives that used to associate with rather undesireable people and a few other things that plauge my everyday life.

I wanted to join the Navy at one point...when I was 16. My grandfather served on the USS. Missouri...

Originally posted by who
I agree completely, lets see our fearless leaders send their sons off to battle to lead the way!!

When you put it that way it seems like they would never vote for is - then look again, this type of topic comes up at least once a month someware on ATS and nothing seems to happen. And the requirment for the SSS to submit an anual report in 2005 - dont most federal agencies issue yearly reports?

Then I could look at the fact that I turn 18 in September 2006 (graduate in June 2007) - gulp...

Originally posted by Thorfinn Skullsplitter
Not sure if i'd be allowed to join anyways. Between an interesting past and relatives that used to associate with rather undesireable people and a few other things that plauge my everyday life.

If anything, that would give them a good reason to ship your ass off to war..

Does it seem wierd, that certain people are against the draft, think everyone should have a son in the military before they say we go to war, yet say bush is a draft dodger like it's a bad thing?

Lest we forget Clinton, he didn't do anything, just ran.

Hell, I don't hold that against him though, we in America have the right to our opinions and beliefs, and if that (including religion) say you do not want to fight in a war, then so be it.

I've done my 8 year commitment, they can't touch me. Guess you guys better learn Spanish whoever trys to dodge. Mexico aint no playground that TV wants you to believe btw.

Originally posted by browha
holy crud...
is this real?
note that you have to be healthy/fit so that rules out most americans already

Have you ever been in the military, sir?

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

-The Principle

[Edited on 21-2-2004 by DeltaChaos]

i don't think it is a matter of if the draft will be re-started...just when....will people join the Nat'l Ggaurd or Reserves if they know that they will probably be deployed for a year, more than likely doing a job that they were not initial trained for, leaving a much better paying civilian job??

"According to the Defense Department, reserve soldiers represent 97 percent of all the military's civil affairs units, 70 percent of all engineering units, 66 percent of all military police, and stunningly enough - 50 percent of actual combat forces."

".......... half the soldiers who were surveyed indicated that they will not reenlist when their tours end or when the Pentagon lifts the stop-loss order currently in effect that has prevented over 24,000 active duty soldiers and over 16,000 reservists from leaving the service."

an interesting read...
yeah, yeah, I know..but it makes one think...and something to research.....

If Bush is (s)elected once again, I think the draft will definitely be on the agenda...all 18-25 watch your ass, because uncle sam is coming for you.

Well lets look at war in general.

Lets take the Iraq war and twist it...

If the US was not as powerfull as Iraq and Saddam told the US and Bush to disarm and allow them to inspect or face a no win war and become a dictatorship. What would the US do? What would the people of the US do upon seeing these people on US soil?

Well thats pretty much what you can continue to expect in Iraq, there will be groups that will always want to return to the old ways and they will never leave, its their home. Right or wrong if the goverment in that area is not strong enough then we will be there for a long time.

Now for the draft i do not think there will ever be one with the weapons we have whats the need. Also for those that might be in that age bracket how many of their parents will be sending the kids to overseas schools.

I have been in the military and served my time long ago I also have a son thats 21 and if there was to be a draft i would send him to Aruba and tell him to start a new life there and support him in every way i could.

I also know if we were invaded on home soil he would stand with me to protect it.

Putting kids in harms way for cannon fodder is a little crazy in this day and age. I would rather see the military money spent on alternative energy sources so oil would not be a issue.

To sum it up I myself would go and stand with my son if the cause was just and the ones that were calling the shots were leading the way and not thousands of miles away playing risk.. Hell let bush lead us into the desert after all he has backup thats what vice presidents are for right?

Wonder what bush will do during the draft? Oh wait I know..

Luckily the reaper will spare myself, call me what you'd like but i'll never fall into the ranks for a corrupt and vile government. Its never a good idea to be snuffing out the lives of your young and brightest, they are your future and your future is them.

Since when has this war been justified anyways? I STILL don't see any evidence that makes me quiver in fear for what they could have done. It'd be against all my morals and ethical values to kill anyone so they'd have a big mutinee from me