Defunct Spy Satellite Falling From Orbit

reply to post by RickinVa


cool idea the last 4 hrs have been:

177.7 down to 164.3

but it has been dropping and rising

take care

snoopyuk

[edit on 4-2-2008 by snoopyuk]

Originally posted by snoopyuk
reply to post by RickinVa

 

cool idea the last 4 hrs have been:

177.7 down to 164.3

but it has been dropping and rising

take care

snoopyuk

[edit on 4-2-2008 by snoopyuk]

dropping AND rising? How?

I ask because i'm not fully versed in orbital studies and flight control software

The orbit isn't circular... it's more an oval. The altitude fluctuates and so does the orbital velocity. Check back a page or two for the links... there'll be some good sighting opportunities for some this pass. Last pass may have been visible OH,WV, VA, NC. Click the draw button on the 5 day prediction for ground tracks related to your IP address. EDIT: Oops, I lied that's tomorrow 6:12:05 EST. Sorry, I cleaned my glasses, then filled one. LOL.

Cheers,

Vic

[edit on 4-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

Nahh, they just want to get rid of the 'other satellite systems to make way for the new world order and improved satellite systems.

As Above So Below.

Yep its a full blown conspiracy, the under water sat system goes down in Iran, and the ones we have already existing but not compliant get trashed.

Some thing is up.

Update:

In the case of the mysterious satellite that is about to plunge back to earth, Mr. Molczan had an early sense of which one it was, identifying it as USA-193, which gave out shortly after reaching space in December 2006. It is said to have been built by the Lockheed Martin Corporation and operated by the secretive National Reconnaissance Office...

Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council, noted that 328 satellites had come down in the past five years without injury to anyone. While Mr. Johndroe declined to divulge much about the current satellite aside from the fact that it carries no nuclear material, he said that the government would take responsibility in the remote chance of damage or injury...

“If Ted can track all these satellites,” Mr. Pike said, “so can the Chinese.”

www.nytimes.com...

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Nice find. I wonder why though, if 328 sattellites have fallen to earth in the last 5 years, why is this one receiving so much attention?

reply to post by anhinga


Amazing what these Canadians can "see" and do from balconies in Toronto... with very few resources other that collegial association...Ted is merely the best known... in the USA.

Cheers,

Vic

reply to post by V Kaminski


well good evening Vic, hope you are well today.

had to sleep so stopped tracking at 2am last night....any news ??
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did anyone else check my thread about the Sky at Night prog all about sats.

it mentions two guys who have a set up in a garden shed with a retractable roof, they have seen and noted down most of the visable sats up there, including the `Unknown `ones....it would be cool to get in touch with them regarding those recently photographed so called "hidden sats"

take care

snoopyuk

No real news the tracking site went offline this morning-ish and hasn't come back up...

Cheers,

Vic

5PM Eastern n2yo came back up...

[edit on 5-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

reply to post by V Kaminski


Hi Vic,

it just came back on about 20 mins ago.

it is at :

Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:01:20 UTCLatitude: -2.32°
Longitude: 170.17°
Right Ascension: 18h 30m 51s
Declination: -28° 31' 42''
Azimuth: 6.77°
Elevation: -63.28°
Altitude [km]: 270.92
Altitude [miles]: 167.97
Speed [km/s]: 7.54
Speed [miles/s]: 4.67
Eclipsed? NO

Thanks snoop'. I'm hoping for good weather here tomorrow morning a bit after 6AM local... primo opportunity facing East from where I am. Have you seen the 5 day for UK? Any chances for you?

Cheers,

Vic

reply to post by V Kaminski


this is my best one :

Feb 6 mag 4.8 05:07:00 UTC 297AZ 05:11:15 25 55.31 until 05:15:20 108

then the next is feb 7th at 05.05am with a mag of 5.0
so i am off to bed early and gonna get up to see it ...cloud permiting.

it is going to go right over head tonight...so i am thinking that will be my best shot.

snoopyuk

164.25 on this pass


lowest I have seen yet

reply to post by RickinVa


I'm checking when I can... I'm using the equator and averaging. 165, 166 since this morning over a half dozens observations on n2yo... edging down slowly.

Vic

Hi Guys,
This might be old news to you but found this link which I thought had some interesting info interesting.
www.heavens-above.com...

[edit on 6/2/2008 by VIKINGANT]

Anymore news about the satellite? Where it will hit earth? I find it very curious its "fallen" out of the news stories the past couple of days.

163.59 just west of hawaii.... @ 1:40pm EST

she is definately coming down

Originally posted by RickinVa
163.59 just west of hawaii.... @ 1:40pm EST

she is definately coming down

New to this type of information, just where is 52degress located? Aviation week gave a guesstament. I think I am at 42degrees.


The satellite was launched into an initial 351 X 367 km. (218 X 228 mi.) orbit inclined 58.5 deg. Orbital drag has now reduced that to 271 X 282 km. (168 X 175 mi.) with the satellite descending 2,310 ft. per day, according to Molczan.

A National Security Council official says that some of the debris could involve hazardous materials. The satellite is not nuclear-powered so there should be no risk from radioactive materials, although some spacecraft do carry tiny plutonium-powered heaters, but these would not pose a debris hazard.

The greater danger will be from any hydrazine propellant residue that does not fully burn up on reentry.

The spacecraft’s hydrazine tanks are full of maneuvering propellant and past experience with both Columbia and smaller spacecraft indicates that hollow lightweight propellant tanks can survive reentry and reach the ground along with heavier components like momentum wheels.


When the Russian lost a spy satellite in early Jan 2008 they said:

“On occasion,” Novosti’s expert continued, “it has taken several days even to find cosmonauts who have landed on Earth, although incomparably more efforts and resources are then involved in the search operation.”


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163.44 over china


Thats the lowest yet I have observed

7:40pm EST 09 Feb 08

reply to post by anniem


Check out the link to heavens above I posted above. It sows real time location on a world map as well as height as well as other tid bits.

[edit on 9/2/2008 by VIKINGANT]