Paul contends for second place in Nevada GOP caucuses

what makes me mad is the fact that fox news is discussing the outcome and all the candidates except for one,..... guess WHICH one???

Why can't these morons just give the man a fair shake??

Paul is ahead of Mccain by over 100 points according to fox tallies, yet not one word about his campaign????

This just makes me sick!!!

Later,...... Ausable_Bill

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Whats the point of using polls anymore if they have so many errors in them?

cuz it helps give a boost to the candidate that the
broadcasting agency wants to win. Plus only voters
are called in an area thought to be FOR that candidate.
It's called "voter profiling". The worst part of voter profiling
is that the broadcasting stations use those tainted polls to
influence the rest of the country's vote. Which makes it
all a lie.

Before the NEV caucus, polls show him in last place with 7.3%
of votes. Well the actual caucus shows him almost DOUBLING that
at almost 14%.

What makes me laugh about this whole thing is that Ghouliani is
in last place with 4% as before, people thought he was the
shi+ .... cuz they are finding out nobody trusts him after 9/11.

Rudy it's time to pack your bags and head back home bro.
If you can't run with the big dogs .... blah, blah, blah ....

Way to go Ron, keep trying. It gets better

Originally posted by Ausable_Bill
Why can't these morons just give the man a fair shake??

What have they got to do with this? NOTHING.

FOX live in their own little world, if they don't mention you I would take that as a blessing.

reply to post by infinite


It means quite a lot, actually. If you take into consideration where staunch Republicans are putting their trust in News. Ron Paul should be given a fair shake in any media forum, just as the others. No mention from FOX News could be very detrimental to the health of his campaign.

Originally posted by Ausable_Bill
Why can't these morons just give the man a fair shake??

well we've been saying for a long time there is a conspiracy
against Paul in the MSM. But it's a he!! of a lot more evident
when he comes in 2nd and gets no coverage at all.

I don't care if his name is taken off all the ballots.
I'm gonna write it in .... IN BIG LETTERS
then I'm gonna wait around to see if my vote
comes out in the talley. Cuz I know just as sure
as I'm sitting here, they're gonna try to rail road
the man.

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
I find it awkward that Mitt Romney has seemingly blown everybody away in Nevada. I never saw that coming. Though, Ron Paul did blow his "speculated" results out of the water, I still feel something fishy is going on.

If I was an American, I would want Romney running the economy. That guy knows business better than anyone. That's probably why he's scoring high, the economy is in the press all the time now. He benefits from it the most.

Romnut is bought and paid for by special interest groups and that is what we do not want again. We want someone who is truthful and who has an open mind and that does not trample the Bill of rights or use the US Constitution for toilet paper( ass wipe)..

The common taters on fox news were even discussing how thompson (under paul by 1000 points) and gooliani (almost 4000 points)below Ron Paul could still be possible contenders for the nomination, yet ron paul who is second doesn't even get a mention at all ????

I can't believe they just carry on like Ron is invisible!!!

I think baghdad bob was more honest than the talking heads on fox news!



Later,...... Ausable_Bill

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
I find it awkward that Mitt Romney has seemingly blown everybody away in Nevada. I never saw that coming. Though, Ron Paul did blow his "speculated" results out of the water, I still feel something fishy is going on.

figured he would have a big showing here.

I don’t know if Mormons are actually turning out to vote for him in high numbers, but if they are we have more than our fair share here in Nevada. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that we are second only to Utah.

Now, to non Mormons his religion is still an issue in the back of people’s minds, even if they are acting like they are too civilized for that sort of prejudice. We are just more used to Mormons here than many states, we all work with one or have a neighbor who is one.

Sucks that we choose who vote for this way but that does not make it not so.

I'm a huge Paul fan. But Paulites have to stop complaining about the MSM's discrimination and bias against Dr. Paul. We sound like a football team losing a game and blaming it on the refs. Instead, take it for what it is and understand we have to work twice as hard.

We have to understand the cards are stacked against him. Complaining about the MSM only makes us look even more like tinhatters to the public.

Instead of complaining... CELEBRATE this. This is huge! This is the breakthrough we've been looking for! The MSM can't ignore it. Instead of complaining... SPREAD THE WORD! Tell everyone about his 2nd place finish over the others.

We already know MSM will be of no help. There are other effective ways to get the word out. Word of mouth is very powerful and underappreciated.

Go Ron!

[edit on 19-1-2008 by mecheng]

Another thing is that large percentage of the vote that came from the 60+ age group.

Paul has been running ads here in Nevada opposing the taxation of tips, a HUGE deal for anyone living off tips here.

You gotta realize that a dealer making $90,000 per year at one of the nice casinos only gets minimum wage from the casino itself. The rest is tips, taxable tips. Paul wants to make that money “under the table.”

This would give the majority of the workforce more money in their pockets.

However, the 60+ age group is retired, they don’t care about tip taxation; they also make up the largest voting block.

The majority Republicans in Nevada who HAVE A JOB actually support Paul.

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Nice to see a Ron Paul supporter who isn't screaming conspiracy every 5 minutes. You've be given a star my friend

reply to post by infinite


Hmm, I think what's nice to see is that all the screaming we have been doing (and imo rightly so) is starting to pay off. If we had listened to all those that say he hasn't got a chance in hell, we MOST DEFINITELY would not be getting any MSM coverage at all. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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Understandable. When I lived in Vegas for a year, I didn't see any presence of Mormons. I can see how they would have a strong showing out there just based on proximity to Utah. Just off the top, I was convinced they Republicans out of Nevada would be more the Giuliani crowd, but it seems my assumptions were off base. I guess this is both bad news and good news.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Hmm, I think what's nice to see is that all the screaming we have been doing (and imo rightly so) is starting to pay off. If we had listened to all those that say he hasn't got a chance in hell, we MOST DEFINITELY would not be getting any MSM coverage at all. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

I don't think it's paying off cause I think the majority do not share his policies, grass riots and constitutionalists maybe. Conspiracy theorist, Alex Jones lovers and the tinfoil crowd are his main supporters. Which is damaging him.

He still does not have a chance hell.

IMHO he is better off running for the third party ticket

Paul is projected 5th for South Carolina. 6% of the vote, higher than Giuliani* and Hunter

*he is well and truly screwed now

reply to post by infinite


Who's "screaming conspiracy" ??

I'm pointing out BLATANT political discrimination in the msm, it's obvious to see, if you consider this a conspiracy,.... well,.... it's not a very good one since it's in our faces if we like it or not.

Mecheng,... I'm doing exactly that, spreading the word through text, right here on good ol' ATS, and you can bet your bottom dollar I will be telling everyone I know.

Not to mention a few emails to fox news about my disappointment with their so - called "fair and balanced " coverage.

Time to take a breather,.....

Later,...... Ausable_Bill

The only way Paul could win the Republican nomination is if he wins Florida and others on Super Tuesday. Without Florida he is wasting time and money. That is where the Bear does you know what. Nevada is interesting in that it may predict Southern California due to the demographics.

news.aol.com...

AOL weekly straw poll. Ron Paul 29% tops Repubs by 5%. Do you think people vote their conscience in straw polls, but vote their fear (lesser of evils) when they're in the voting booth? That's assuming, of course, that the voting machines are giving us valid numbers.

The Ron Paul hate is strong in this thread - I guess he is making people nervous. I'm still waiting for our resident professional Paul basher to show up though - probably waiting for instructions on how to spin it

And I'm sorry, but it's amazing the length all the major news networks will go to to marginalize Dr Paul. All of them. I'm watching CNN now and they are discussing all the candidates in detail except for Paul. They'll mention his name in passing and quickly move on. More time is spent talking about Fred Thompson, who has barely been a factor.

I'm sorry, there is simply no way this is accidental.

And it's not hard to figure out why, either.
Most of the media companies have links to Big Defense these days.
And guess who stands to lose a lot of money if Dr. Paul actually succeeds?

I've noticed that Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich, the other candidates who propose big defense cuts, also seem to be alternately either ignored or scoffed at by the MSM.

But I'm sure it's entirely coincidental

[edit on 1/19/08 by xmotex]

Originally posted by xmotex
The Ron Paul hate is strong in this thread - I guess he is making people nervous. I'm still waiting for our resident professional Paul basher to show up though - probably waiting for instructions on how to spin it

Where's the hate?

Oh, I forgot, you cannot express an opinion about Ron Paul if you don't support him

You guys are like a cult in your collective thinking.

I said he was better off running under the third party ticket cause he'll probably do better and get media attention (he would be sort of high profile)...where is the hate in that?