Pine Gap Underground Entry?

Bump....


Come on Aussies....
come on


Mungo

...just after some info..
has the area that contains the pine gap facility ever been subject to a native title claim, by the local indigenous peoples of that area?
just curiuos to know if it has ever happened, or what the consequnces would be it there where to be such a claim...

pine gap is australia's conspiracy nightmare
why are the americans so secretive?????????

i believe that pine gap is hiding top secret information regarding ufo's and other military secrets
why is the area so restricted?

what evidence of interplanetary contact is being hidden at pine gap?

if other nuclear powerful countries launch a missile attack on pine gap will the americans protect their own and desert australians?

the australian government are looking like clowns because they have permitted a foreign military/nuclear establishment to operate in top secrecy for many years


maybe the australian government doesn't have a clue either as to what's been happening at the most restricted and secretive foreign operation in OUR country

Gday Mungo

Ok I am bumped!

I have heard many stories of Pine Gap but like Area 51 It seems to be all hear say.

No real proof so far?

I am no way a sceptic on this subject but, it does seem that if there is a high security base everyone always shouts a conspiracy is happening.

Until we get a full exposure/dislosure we will never no what realy is going on regarding these bases.

Stared and Flaged fellow Aussie

One of the best threads re PineGap, about time we found out is is going on and what has been going on on Terra Firma, re flying ships Vimanas, Sumer, the 'shining ones' used to mine Earth and travelled between Earth, Moon and MARS, now Mars yes, what went on there and on the Moon, unexplanable machined stuff, & ruins on both, and the old satelites hmmm, very very interesting, I have seen deliberate fogging of machined stuff on the Moon and Mars so what are 'they hiding from use and why, could one do controled 'remote viewing and suss out these secret places? no doubt they have some defences against that sort of spying, think I tried in once and I have the memory of being zapped in a coloured ray was shocked indeed.......the perfect spy if you are not caught!

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
Gday Mungo

Ok I am bumped!

I have heard many stories of Pine Gap but like Area 51 It seems to be all hear say.

No real proof so far?

I am no way a sceptic on this subject but, it does seem that if there is a high security base everyone always shouts a conspiracy is happening.

Until we get a full exposure/dislosure we will never no what realy is going on regarding these bases.

Stared and Flaged fellow Aussie

The whole point my friend has been to firstly bring it to the attention of, and secondly ( and hopefully) encourage someone to come forward.....

There must be something going on....
or why the need for this degree of securiity....

and where does the entrance go ( as in OP )

Fanx for keeping the thread going,,, we keep finding new stuff.... even though Ive been pretty slack.

Mungo

[edit on 31/10/2008 by mungodave]

Earlier in the thread, some people mentioned Bouganville? This REALLY caught my attention. Can anyone provide any more info? DogHead, if you still read this, some input would be great.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


DogHead was banned.

As for myself, I do not have any information about Bouganville, but maybe someone who has is reading this.

The only thing I know about Pine Gap, apart from what is now pretty much widely discussed on the internet, is that Australians are definitely not allowed into the top secret inner sanctum at Pine Gap.
A former ASIO officer once told me, Australians have no real idea what is actually there in terms of equipment or capability. Everything is flown in and flown out in boxes and containers.

But you have to ask yourself one question.

Why would America keep things like secret Alien technology, UFOs or even actual aliens in Australia, when they would be far more secure hidden somewhere on American soil ?

Suppose (hypothetically) the Australian government had some top secret alien technology they wanted to particularly hide from America.
Does it sound logical to build a secret Australian military base beneath a US desert and hide it all there ?

Everything I have heard and read suggests Pine Gap is fundamentally an American electronic intelligence gathering station (for this sector of the globe). With quite probably the added facility of some advanced ground based anti satellite weaponry.
In the event of war, it could very quickly be used to blind or disable unfriendly satellites.

While I know nothing about star gates, or shape shifting reptilians, I would be very surprised if the Americans would be hiding that extremely sensitive and secret stuff in a foreign country. Why would they want to do that ?

Pine Gap is much more logically a simple link in a chain of overseas electronic spying operations, with some exotic space weaponry, with the secrecy and security that goes with all that.
There is no logical reason for America to keep anything more at Pine Gap, than is absolutely necessary for it to perform it's mission.

They almost certainly have a small nuclear power reactor, just as they have at their McMurdo Antarctic base. And for exactly the same reasons. Nothing really sinister about that either.

While I personally wish that US base was not in Australia, I doubt that it contains cages full of imprisoned aliens, or fleets of flying saucers.
Why would America want to keep that stuff in Australia hidden from Australians ? It just ain't logical.

Originally posted by DogHead
reply to post by keops

 

PICTURES? That's just nutty. Seriously. It's a work environment. No one takes a camera to such a work environment. You don't even take your work home with you and you empty the bin every day etc. It would be difficult unless it was a setup to get anything at all out. Even something ridiculously small. It makes a diamond mine look like a lax security environment.

Pictures. Wow.

A diamond mine IS a lax security environment.

Originally posted by AussieNutter
DogHead, very interesting.

However, in one of your previous posts, you say that you are walking a fine line with this disclosure, then go and pretty well say that there is ET stuff going on.
I quote:

there is definitely ET stuff there. However the nature of the material might either truly shock your socks off or just leave you going "oh."

Remember: moon rocks are ET. Satellites are ET (though not by origin of course). ET could also stand for "Earth Telecommunication". It is a spy base after all.

Recently met a family back in the US for vacation from Alice Springs. I asked who he worked for and he said Northrup Grumman. I asked if he worked at Pine Gap and I got a wierd look and said not today and walked away. Just my .02

So then doghead.....Fill us in. What kind of facility are you talking about? You say blackest of black. Please don't leave us hanging.

reply to post by ArMaP


Why was Doghead banned? Did it have anything to do with this thread? Just wondering if maybe this whole thing was proven to be a hoax.

i tried to post a new thread for this because this one was over a year old. i figured the chances of anyone reading to the end of it these days was remote.

but here goes.

look where i have marked


you can get pretty close to ground level with GE. tracks just vanish or fade, then reappear other side of the ridge.
quite interesting.
pleanty more of this kind of road to nowhere here. please post pics of what you find!

okamitengu

G'day DogHead

You are on the money mate.

The external image you posted on page 5 shows where I live.
The creek that runs next to pine gap passes our house about 4 kilometers
upstream

Pine Gap is built on a big underground river system not the same water basin as Alice Springs uses.

Our homelad (Iwupataka) borders with PG and used to be the old 'Owen Springs cattle station until the land was handed back to us.

In 1982 my two brothers and I were hunting round 2.am and what we saw
no one seemed t care.

There is a low hill on the left side of PG looking west that opened up and a number of discs came out slowly then sped off at great speed. toward the north east.

There were actually 4 of us hunting 3 in the car and 1 on an offroad m/cycle.

Since then I have seen many orange lights, discs and beams of light emmitting from PG in the last decade.

Just over a week ago 2 bright orange lights took off from the vicinity of PG
and also sped off to the n/east late afternoon.

For many years we the land owners have complained to the authorities about the underground rumblings every night mostly for years.
They have stopped since 2007.

One time I went to the Power and Water resources in Alice Springs to get a permit to drill for water on our land and I was told blatantly that it was forbidden to drill for water and the official said it was because of PG.

I still hunt on our land and have been chased by PG sercurity many times and because I know all the dirt tracks around PG but on our land I left them for dead.

In 2006 I was picked up by the Aust Federal police on the Larapinta drive whilst driving home to my place, they blindfolded me and bundled me into one of their vehicles with windows blacked out and by the sound and distance we traveled I was taken to Alice Springs somewhere escorted still blindfolded taken up a lift to a padded room blindfolds off and intorregated by two americans in suits and dark sunglasses for a couple of hours.

Blindfolded they took me back to my car on the side of the road where I left it.

I guess because I am Indigenous to the area they have left me alone since.

Now back in the mid 70's one of my brothers (not the ones in the hunt episode) was a driver for a freight company that was contracted to bring frieght from down south.

One sunday his boss called him up to pick up frieght from the Alice Springs airport.

The usual truck that was spposed to bring frieght from south was stuck down the road at a flooded Finke river no way of crossing it.

My bro was met at the A/Springs airport tarmac and was escorted to the american c130 galaxy aircraft where 2 trailer loads of salt was hooked up to his rig.

With armed escort he was escorted to PG and was handed over to the security there, who briefed him by telling him to follow the lead 4WD escort
Not to get out of his rig or look around when they reached their destination.

Now when he came up to the biggest dome the one on the left looking west
a huge door opened up and he followed his escort down down down until he reached his destination. H said he could see streets, lights vehicles and people with different colored overalls.

You have to remember he was driving a kenworth with two long trailers hooked up to it.

He also said that some men in overalls with the help of a forklift were unloading the salt and men in different colored overalls were cutting the bags open and were tipping the salt into hoppers that was hooked up to tanks with lots of water in them.

I was told later that the salt was probably used toi break down nuclear waste.

there is more I can tell you about our neighbour PG but it will take too long. Even an abduction episode which took 3 of my cousins in 1983.
Missing time and all that. Maybe amother time.

I still hunt there.



Cheers. AA

Originally posted by okamitengu
i tried to post a new thread for this because this one was over a year old. i figured the chances of anyone reading to the end of it these days was remote.

but here goes.

look where i have marked


you can get pretty close to ground level with GE. tracks just vanish or fade, then reappear other side of the ridge.
quite interesting.
pleanty more of this kind of road to nowhere here. please post pics of what you find!

okamitengu

reply to post by ancient arrow


That creek you are looking at is the Laura creek system which passes by my house upstream.

Those roads are Pine Gap Boundary fences. That marked spot is where the only camera for pine gap is in that area.

I was chased from that very part of the creek two months ago by PG security
where it goes through that gap whilst out hunting with my 10 year old daughter and our Rotwieler 'Butch'.

They chased us for several kilometers on our land which borders PG at that very photo.

I know the area like the back of my hand and I lost them.
I went back next day and found where they turned around several kilometers on our land.

They know who I am so life goes on.

Cheers AA

so deos that road just vanish or is it a tracking road like a huunters run?

im a former south aussie not been this far north tho. parachilna and wilpena are my furthest.

you say theres a camera there? is it a ridge? how did they know you were there? camera? motion sensors?

how is the camera powerd? lines? above ground?

is there any signs of suspiscious vehicular movement there?

no chance of losing your land if they get jack of you?

always interested ot hear. i spotted this road thru the mountain over a year ago while tooling around in my lunch break (or farting around when supposed to be working!! hehehe) any answers you can give without having APS at your door would be cool. PS for anyone else interested in pine gap...

APS are the main guards there and hire people off the street. our own NWO goons (: i was offered a job once and stupidly refused cos i didnt want to be a NWO bitch. i maybe could have seen inside a fewe cool places by now. keep an eye out for APS logo instead of police. worrying new tredn to use APS for riots etc in a few places.

just saw you are an aborigine! i guess they cant take your land without a huge incident, plus you guys know how to move in and out of that land unseen.

if i get back to aus from japan i would love to come up and see if you'll have me (:

looks pretty stunning over that way!