Phobos May Be Alien Space Base: White House adviser!!

And this is a zoom from the image in the OP as well as from the study of images of Phobos given by Internos and goosdawg....



Notice the strange tube-like structure resting on the edge of the crater? Also its bearing in relation to the moon's striations.

Cheers!

Interesting. It looks to me as if there is something a little odd with the craters. Compare them to craters of our own moon and there's a difference. The ones on Phobos look as if the impacts have caused dents in a metallic surface rather than ejections of material as on the Moon.

As for the artifacts: the resolution is not good enough to make any assessments. We are in the realms of ink blot fantasy there! However, some are clearly unusual and not typical of a rocky body sitting in space for millions of years and are worthy of a high resolution photograph.

regards,

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So thats where I left my key.

I also believe that there are probably other civilizations at various stages of evolution, probably some that never made it due to planetary or catastrophic problems, and some due to War. I also believe that this planet wasn't the only planet in our solar system to harbor life. I believe that Venus, and Mars at some point in history had life on them in some form or another, and possibly intelligent life at that...

I also firmly believe that life would exist on any planet that contains enough of the right chemistry for it.

Planets need these things to support life as WE know it.
-Oxygen o2
-Nitrogen N2
-Argon Ar
-Carbon Dioxide Co2
-Water Vapor h2o
-Krypton Kr
-Helium He
-Hydrogen h2
-Methane Ch4
-Neon Ne

Now I doubt we'll find an exact match, and just because humans need this, doesn't mean that another species hasn't evolved to breath something different. This also takes into account that "they" would breath in the first place.

Now the last question is are we just looking for life similar to US, or are we looking for life similar to it's environment?

The only conclusion is to EXPLORE... The answers are out there.

I also imagine that an advanced species far beyond us, would really not be interested in having affairs with us, quite possibly due to our behaviors, technology, maybe simply be examining our planet from afar and witnessing the damge we've done to it, contiue to do to it... We could be seen as an infection/infestation to the planet much as we see infestations in places we don't like to see them.

I imagine a Space capable species might find us crude and reckless, poluting and aggressively primitive, and we could be seen as dangerous to come into contact with, much like a disease.

I just say this based on our examinations of ourselves. We conclude these issues about ourselves we are intelligent by our standards, and understand the effects of what we do, even though we still do them.

So Exterrestrial contact has probably been happening since we gained the ability to transmit and recieve radio waves, microwaves, etc. It's probablyTHERE all the time. Communications between here and there about this and that. Maybe we just don't rank in the contactable zone of communications yet, or ever? Interesting thoughts.

Exellent post as always Mike Very informative, you get a star and a flag for introducing me to this Phobos mystery

nice SCI-FI.

perhaps Mike is a disinfo poster? the whole UFO / alien story is fake, mad up by a global elite.
there are no aliens.
its made up to confuse and divert.

its all photoshopped.just think.no evidence.
but nice.

Originally posted by anti72
Perhaps Mike is a disinfo poster? the whole UFO / alien story is fake, made up by a global elite.

Hmmm...How in the name of Phobos did you know I am a 'disinfo poster' working for the NWO? I better tighten up my counter intelligence unit!

Originally posted by mikesingh
Eros, Phobos, Eros....Is there a connection? You bet!! The two weirdest moons in the Solar System do have us puzzled! Take a look at this image of Eros taken by the NEAR probe. Is it a natural feature?

Courtesy: NASA/APL

Actually, Eros is an asteroid, not a moon.
NEAR probe returned plenty of images, here's how NASA describes that one:

This particular image, taken from an orbital altitude of 53 kilometers (33 miles), shows a scene about 1.8 kilometers (1.1 miles) across. Numerous craters and boulders as small as 8 meters (26 feet) across dot the landscape. The large, rectangular boulder at the upper right is 45 meters (148 feet) across. (Image 0132577092)

See? It's just a large, rectangular boulder.

Mike,
Very interesting..nice idea and work as usual! The one building like structure is especially intriguing

Originally posted by nekitamo

Actually, Eros is an asteroid, not a moon.

Apologies! As you mentioned, Eros is an asteroid, not a moon!

Here's how NASA describes that one:

This particular image, taken from an orbital altitude of 53 kilometers (33 miles), shows a scene about 1.8 kilometers (1.1 miles) across. Numerous craters and boulders as small as 8 meters (26 feet) across dot the landscape. The large, rectangular boulder at the upper right is 45 meters (148 feet) across. (Image 0132577092)

See? It's just a large, rectangular boulder.

Says who? NASA?

Cheers!

Originally posted by Donoso
The whole debate over Phobos' "unusual" orbit & it being hollow ended in 1969.

--other than the height of the orbit, jury is definitely still out on that one. It is just so damn low that the moon couldn't have been there for the "whole of history".

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Good point Doghead, that does jog the mind that the general consensus was that Phobos' orbit would eventually degrade to the point of impact. Or maybe not...

Great thread and pics Mike. Phobos is always wonderful to ponder.

There is the theory going around that many of the moons/asteroids in the Solar System are alien bases. Few may have ventured beyond the moons of Saturn to see the most puzzling moon of Uranus - Miranda. Here are a couple of pics that shows Miranda to be one strange object orbiting Uranus....




Courtesy: artvision

Now check out the shiny rectangular structure in the middle in the image below:

It is 16 km in height and about 4 km in width!! Can this be a natural formation? Or is it something else? Shades of Arthur C Clarke's Monolith, what? But this one is gigantic!!


Sourced from: Astrosociety

Cheers!


Ref: www.astrosociety.org...


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If NASA has specifically determined that the rectangular object is a VERY large bolder (that seems to have avoided incessant external bombardment that the rest of the Asteroid has been subjected too to stay intact – Odd in its self?) Then one is left with the feeling that, once again they are lying and we are indeed looking at something not of natural formation!

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No! It's orbiting YOUR anus!

Kidding aside, is the Fred Singer mentioned in the OP the same Fred Singer putting out all that disinformation on climate change?

S. Fred Singer

Seems to fit the bill. If so, this guy also says "secondhand smoke isn't bad for you."

Think about that.

Originally posted by mikesingh

Was Phobos some kind of an 'outpost' of Mars made by an ET civilization, maybe hundreds of thousands of years ago? Or is it still so?

No. Still no concrete evidence to support this.

What with all the weird, unexplained anomalies on Mars and Phobos, there could be some element of credibility to this, though it’s pure conjecture so far.

There are no obvious 'anomalies'. No credibility whatsoever. You don't see any credible scientists supporting this. Like you said in your own word, 'pure conjecture".

Whilst browsing Rense, this is what I found. Though this is of the 60s vintage, it shows the thinking in the White House in the days of yore. But it could be the thinking today too! Who knows?

Yup. Who knows?

The Martian moon Phobos, generally accepted as a celestial body, actually may be an artificial satellite launched long ago by an advanced Martian race, according to Dr. S. Fred Singer, special advisor to President Eisenhower on space developments. No mention was made of the other Mars moon, Deimos.......

This is like, when? The days of Eisenhower? This source is simply outdated and cannot be relied upon as reliable. and MAY..... MAY.... Hmmm... It MAY rain tomorrow.

In 1963, Raymond H. Wilson Jr., Chief of Applied Mathematics at NASA, joined Shklovsky and Dr. Singer in their Martian conclusions. He stated that "Phobos might be a colossal base orbiting Mars."
www.rense.com...

Possible. Which simply means yes or no. And this is like, when, more than 40 years ago? That furthers the impossibility more than the possibility of it being probable, which is just in itself "possible" : "Capable of being imagined" (from the dictionary)

And MIGHT. It might rain tomorrow. The world MIGHT end in 2012. I MIGHT be a millionaire in ten years....

Now have a look at some of these images of Phobos. What do you think?

I think it looks more like a rock than a base built by an advanced civilization...

Here’s a weird formation on Phobos taken by Mars Global Surveyor. Do you notice it toward the upper left?

Looks like a 'typical' random topological rock formation to me.

I have zoomed in sharpened and reduced picture noise some…

Still looks like a 'typical' random topological rock formation to me.

Weird formation on Phobos.. Can this
be the remains of an artificial structure?

...Nnnnope. Nothing weird there...

And now the Canadian Space Agency is set to lead a mission to Phobos named Phobos Reconnaissance and International Mars Exploration (“PRIME”). ..Why Phobos?

Hhhuh... Like because they want to?

Phobos – An alien docking station? This infrared photograph
was the last taken by the Russian probe, Phobos II
before it lost contact (Destroyed?)
Courtesy: ufos-aliens

That photo is simply fake. The then communist Russians would do anything to make themselves 'important' by claiming outrageous 'claims'. If this was true, it would be all over the news then....

Does anyone have any more info on the anomalies on Phobos? It does seem to be a strange moon. Could it actually be an alien space base?

Nope. Those who say there are anomalies are simply 'seeing faces in clouds'
or rather seeing faces on rocks. Nothing strange about Phobos. Just your normal typical big hunk of rock to me instead of an 'advanced alien space base' built by 'an advanced ancient alien civilization'. With this line of thinking people would say Ayers Rock as something anomalous and was carved by ancient civilization...

Cheers!

Cheers!






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Good God Almighty!! You've written one whole page, whacked the ATS server with megabytes of verbosity, and what's the bottom line? I'm still figuring it out!

You could've said that in just a couple of lines: Phobos is no alien space base, what you're seeing is just rocks and what was said during Pres Eisenhower's time is just plain crap. Finally there's no such things as ETs. PERIOD!

See? It's so simple to be clear, concise and understandable!

Cheers!



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Great post, i found it very interesting since i've read about Dyson Spheres earlier, a project that dwarfs Phobos and Eros in comparison. So what was i saying, ah yes, if science think Dyson's ideas are sane and sound i am gladly giving MSingh a flag and a star for this thread.

Here is a little article i found, not sure about the author but he seems to be a scientists of some sort. www.nada.kth.se...

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Thanks tangent, for that excellent link! A Dyson sphere though an extremely thought provoking concept, is in the realm of hard core sci-fi at the present juncture, could be a distinct possibility a million years into the future!

It's probably how a Type 3 or higher extra terrestrial civilization would be living. And we aren't even half of Type 1 as yet!

Cheers!

"That photo is simply fake. The then communist Russians would do anything to make themselves 'important' by claiming outrageous 'claims'. If this was true, it would be all over the news then"....


"That photo" was shown on a documentary and featured a genuine Russian scientist who worked on the project where the probe just stopped transmitting after that picture was taken...

You can;t have it both ways .. People ask for a scientist to come out and say... this is what we saw etc etc.. One does so and then it's well it was faked because "they're Russians". a tad insulting i'd say, to just dismiss possible evidence simply because it comes from the Russians?

As i pointed out, this came out at a time when the wall had not been long down and the Russians fell for the propoganda we had been feeding them for 40 years about how we are *free* over here in the West. it didn't take long for hem to be kicked back onside and the information comnig out dried up pretty damn quickly...

It is the same with the Russian *retieval* video/film... Unlike the Roswell autopsy the film stock was tested... genuine... the weapons, uniforms and equipment in the film are all totally comensurate with the time period the film claims to be from. Even the secxurity codes on the can match up with the KGB's filing system...