A Bigger Picture (Rise of the NWO)

I debated wether or not to start this thread under General Conspiracy or NWO, but decided that much of what I will post here may not generally fall into the NWO category.

Since starting here on ATS a few months ago with a few "pet" theories that seemed to be independant of eachother, I have seen a pattern emerge. I will now post some of what I have found.

Please wait to reply until I have finished posting, which I will make clear in the final post of this piece.

The consolidation of power, the U.S. Civil War.

The American Civil War was a war between the rights of sovereign states, and a nationalized federal government. The power of the people vs. the consolidation of power. Before the Civil War you would say “these are" the United States. From then on, you would say “this is" the United States.

The Union was a group of states who agreed that power should be centralized in the form of federal government. The Confederacy was a group of states who did not wish to relinquish their sovereign rights and power of member states to a centralized government. The South was not some new empire that had suddenly emerged to upset the status quo and overrun the North. The Confederacy was an alliance of resistance against the aggressive overtures of the federal system that had begun to write a new status. The southern states simply did not agree with the northern states, that power should be surrendered to and consolidated in the federal government.

The clearest example of the sort of power we are talking about here is the National Currency Act of 1863 and the National-Bank Act the following year. (Note the hyphen) This is what the Civil War was all about, economics.

“Give me control of a nation’s money, and I care not who writes its laws…" -Meyer Armschel Rothschild 1790

I am suspecting that ol' Honest Abe might have been getting his pockets lined working for someone besides the American people. No wonder why he is so highly revered today in this land of deception and hidden meaning. Throw away all your notions of what you have been taught in school about the Civil War, and what you have read in textbooks. The propaganda of the victor is also highly revered. Lincoln did not keep the United States from splitting and falling apart. He forced them to be glued together in Greenbacks.

Ask yourself what the Civil War was really about. Most people today will tell you that it was about freeing the slaves. This, despite the fact that slavery was an issue in northern states as well. Union forces were not on some moralistic crusade to rescue anyone. They were imperial forces dispatched to impose a new economic order. Part of this was the Emancipation Proclamation. The rural southern economy was dependant on human labor, in the form of slavery, on a massive scale. The northern states had made great headway in diminishing this need through the mechanics of industry, and urban consolidation of their economies. Freeing the slaves was meant to cut the legs off the southern economy. Well, more like shooting a bullet into each leg so they would bleed through the war, and then rot with gangrene after the war. With a Union victory, the abolition of slavery guaranteed that a southern confederacy would never have an economic leg to stand on again.

If the war really was about freedom for black slaves, then why did the Civil rights movement happen nearly a whole century later? And look at the economy of the south. It has just begun to seriously compete with the north once again in the past few decades. And let's not forget the legacy of all those slave laborers. A line of descendants that still have not been economically assimilated, and continue to live in the worst conditions that this country can serve up with a welfare check.

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Now we move on to the creation and establishment of the ubiquitous Federal Reserve.

A financial panic in 1907, which New York elites had conspired to cause, provided the motivation for a commission to explore new reforms in banking and currency, which was led by Senate Republican leader and financial expert Nelson Aldrich. The Senator’s daughter was married to John D. Rockefeller Jr., a surname synonymous with elite power. Even at the time, their marriage was viewed as the consummation of a marriage between politics and capitalism. The Senator also had ties to other wealthy bankers such as J.P. Morgan. After a trip to Europe, Senator Aldrich was convinced that central banking was the way to go now, not the government-issued bond system that he had supported earlier. He had been particularly impressed by the German banking system.

Quote from Wikipedia (Jekyll Island entry):

“On the evening of November 22, 1910, Sen. Aldrich and A.P. Andrews (Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Department), Paul Warburg (a naturalized German representing Kuhn Loeb & Co.), Frank A. Vanderlip (president of the National City Bank of New York), Henry P. Davison (senior partner of J.P. Morgan Company), Charles D. Norton (president of the Morgan dominated First National Bank of New York), and Benjamin Strong (representing J.P. Morgan), left Hoboken, New Jersey on a train…”

Representing about one sixth of the world’s wealth, these men traveled to the secluded Jeckyll Island in Georgia. What they did there in conspiratorial secrecy might best be explained by participant Frank A. Vanderlip in his 1935 autobiography:

“I was as secretive, indeed I was as furtive as any conspirator. Discovery, we knew, simply must not happen, or else all our time and effort would have been wasted. If it were to be exposed that our particular group had got together and written a banking bill, that bill would have no chance whatever of passage by Congress…I do not feel it is any exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyll Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System.”

There were others at the island meeting as well, including Col. Edward House. He had inherited cotton plantations in Texas, dropping out of Cornell when his father died. House became involved in Texas politics, helping several governors get elected and winning his honorary title. He was also intimately tied to the Ku Klux Klan there. Eventually he sold the plantations, invested in banking, and moved to New York. House was a member of the Cecil Rhodes Round Table Group, which was dedicated to reunification with Britain and global domination. Their key projects were the graduated income tax, a central bank, as well as the creation of the League of Nations and a Central Intelligence Agency. (From this we see that CIA was not suddenly spawned from a need to fight the Cold War, but had been planned for many years. The Soviet threat was a typical problem-reaction-solution scenario for public consumption.) This secret society member went on to become a close confidant and advisor to President Woodrow Wilson through the Great War, and even supported FDR in a more peripheral role years later.

The original “Aldrich Plan” presented to Congress was highly controversial and had little support, but was rehashed as the Federal Reserve Act. This version was not well liked either, but was passed in 1913 with a great deal of political influence from the newly elected President Woodrow Wilson, and with his promise to follow up with antitrust legislation once the bill was passed.

On the day before the bill was passed, Rep. Charles Lindbergh Sr. (the father of the famed aviator), told Congress:

“This is the Aldrich bill in disguise…The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill…The banks have been granted special privilege of distributing the money, and they charge as much as they wish…This is the strangest, most dangerous advantage ever placed in the hands of a special privilege class by any government that ever existed. The system is private…There should be no legal tender other than that issued by the government…The People are the Government. Therefore the Government should, as the Constitution provides, regulate the value of money” (Congressional Record, 12-22-1913)

Jekyll Island attendee Frank Vanderlip, again in his autobiography writes:

“Although the Aldrich Federal Reserve Plan was defeated when it bore the name Aldrich, nevertheless its essential points were all contained in the plan that was finally adopted.”

From this information is seems quite clear, that the establishment of the Federal Reserve System was neither in the interest of the American people, nor was it an inadvertent mistake that only came to be realized in later years. It was a deliberate conspiracy perpetrated by a handful of elites to undermine the American economic structure, and even the U.S. Constitution, for their own personal gain. Another fundamental seizure of power that once belonged to the American people.

“If you want to be the slaves of banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the banks create money…” -Josiah Stamp, Governor of the Bank of England, 1920.

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The bankruptcy of a nation and the end of the U.S. Constitution.

Let us move on now to the Great Depression and the Presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. In less than twenty years, the Federal Reserve System managed to drive the American economy into the ground, and took most of the economies of the industrialized world with it. Congressman Louis T. McFadden openly blamed the Federal Reserve, run by Wall Street banks and their European affiliates, for deliberately causing the Great Depression. The Congressman had been chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency for more than a decade, but was no longer Chairman when he stated on June 10, 1932:

“Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions...The people have a valid claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks”

But why would the Fed want to run the economy into the ground? Again it was another grab for power. This time, unlimited power. Not only would the elites seize substanatial swaths of real property that had been purposely driven into default by the lenders, but they would get rid of the U.S. Constitution as a practical instrument of law as well.

With the nation bankrupt and insolvent, the U.S. Constitution was suspended in 1933 with Congressional approval and by the Executive Order of President Frankiln D. Roosevelt when he asked for,"Broad executive power to wage a war against the emergency as great as the power that would be given to me if we were in fact invaded by a foreign foe."

Constitutional authority has never been reinstated. The emergency has never been declared over. Speaking to Congress, US Rep. James Traficant declared the following:

“It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. HJR 192, 73rd Congress session of June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution to Suspend the Gold Standard and Abrogate the Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States governmental offices and departments and is further evidence that the United States Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States offices, officials and departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the constitutional Republican form of government now dissolved, the receivers of the bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of the Treasury to that of the Governor of the international Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States."”

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But it is even worse than this. It was not only the Federal government that became the private property of the elite international bankers. State government as well, having already relinquished their sovereignty to the Federal Government in the Civil War, are included as default payment. Where states were once sovereign republics, they are now designated as Federal Districts superimposed on the pre-existing borders. For example, the republic of Arizona (Ariz.) has been designated as the federal STATE OF ARIZONA (AZ). Note the all capital print in the latter. In an even clearer example, if you were to file a federal court case in Colorado, the heading would read “IN THE DISTRICT OF COLORADO” not “in the state of…” And even this is not the worst of it.

Your individual sovereignty as an American, became and remains the private property of people like the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. It is no exaggeration to say that you are indeed a slave, in the most literal sense of the word. Your U.S. Citizenship identifies you as the private property of receivers of the U.S. bankruptcy, and as a private corporation designated numerically by Social Security and otherwise as your given name printed in all capital letters. (Look at your driver’s license, your credit card, etc. All caps.) American persons were once afforded that which is designated as inalienable by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These sovereign individual rights now remain suspended and superseded, by the privileges and immunities of the incorporated U.S. Citizen, as a matter of public policy, as designated under the 14th Amendment.

Note that I said public policy, not law. What’s the difference you ask? Let’s turn to the 6th Edition of Black’s Law Dictionary:

“Public law. That branch or department of law which is concerned with the state in its political or sovereign capacity, including constitutional and administrative law, and with the definition, regulation, and enforcement of rights where the state is regarded as the subject of the right or object of the duty, . . . That portion of law which is concerned with political conditions; that is to say, with the powers, rights, duties, capacities, and incapacities which are peculiar to political superiors, supreme and subordinate.

Public policy. Community common sense and common conscience, extended and applied throughout the state to matters of public morals, health, safety, welfare, and the like; it is that general and well-settled public opinion relating to man's plain, palpable duty to his fellow men, having due regard to all circumstances of each particular relation and situation.”

Basically what you are reading here is that ever since 1933, the courts can make up the laws as they see fit on an ongoing basis. Whatever they see as being in the interest of the public, or in accordance with general public opinion at any given time, becomes policy to the detriment of the designated rights once enjoyed by American individuals. They simply make up the law as they go. And it doesn’t end there either.
The courts today are operated exclusively by members of the BAR, and under military authority. Military authority is represented in the gold fringe border of the national flag on display in courts. The American BAR Association is a private corporation, operating for profit. The courts are there to bring in revenue. Every member of the BAR is obligated to uphold the principle of the court, even to the detriment of their own client. In other words, you can go into court arguing for your Constitutionally protected rights, but it will be dismissed as frivolous without any objection by your own lawyer, as a matter of public policy.

Army Regulation 840-10, 2.3(b) (1979) states:
b. National flags listed below are for indoor displays and for use in ceremonies and parades. For these purposes the United States flag will be rayon banner cloth, trimmed on three sides with golden yellow fringe, 2 1/2 inches wide.
Army Regulation 840-10, 2.3(c) states:
c. Authorization for indoor display. The flag of the United States is authorized for indoor display for:
(1) each office, headquarters, and organization authorized a positional color, distinguishing flag, or organizational color;
(2) each organization of battalion size or larger, temporary or permanent, not otherwise authorized a flag of the United States;
(3) each military installation not otherwise authorized an indoor flag of the United States, for the purpose of administering oaths of office;

(4) each military courtroom;

(5) each US Army element of joint commands, military groups, and missions. One flag is authorized for any one headquarters operating in a dual capacity;
(6) each subordinate element of the US Army Recruiting Command;
(7) each ROTC unit, including those at satellited schools;
(8) each reception station.

From the Civil War through the establishment of the Federal Reserve and into the Great Depression, all of the pieces were carefully put into place for the coup d’etat, der staatsstreich, against the sovereign authority of the United States of America in its entirety.

“...it is not enough to overthrow the old state, but that the new state must previously have been built up and be ready to one's hand... In 1933 it was no longer a question of overthrowing a state by an act of violence; meanwhile the new state had been built up and all that remained to do was to destroy the last remnants of the old state - and that took but a few hours." -Adolf Hitler, 1936

So now we see what the bankers gained by deliberately bankrupting the United States. Just about everything that made us Americans. And that was all the way back before the Second World War even started. Imagine what’s in store for us the next time they burst the deliberately inflated bubble.

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The assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

For a long time I believed the cryptic explanation of an unidentified CIA officer who claimed that JFK was assassinated in a clandestine coup d’etat. It seemed to make a lot of sense, and my research went beyond arguing about magic bullets. Was the authority of the government violently overthrown by these unseen conspirators? No. It was Kennedy who was upsetting the status quo. His assassination was not a coup d’etat, but a coup de grace. What he was trying to do was undermine the Federal Reserve, who are the titled owners of the United States of America and its citizens. The coup d’etat had already happened in 1933. It looks like JFK may have actually been trying to get us back to the good old days before 1913.

President Kennedy signed an executive order on June 4, 1963 for the issuance of $5 billion in paper currency, backed by precious metal as prescribed in the Constitution, directly from the US mint and bypassing any loan from the Federal Reserve Bank. “How dare the government issue their own money, we own the government,” I can hear the bankers saying. And as I have shown already, this is the literal truth.

JFK was dead within six months.

President Johnson cancelled his predecessors Executive Order, and recalled the silver certificates already issued to be destroyed. In 1914 the Fed issued notes in accordance with the U.S. Constitution, bearing the phrase “This Note is Redeemable in Gold on Demand.” The text was revised in 1950 to read, “This Note is Redeemable in Lawful Money,” but still remained legal under the Constitution. Since only gold and silver was the only “lawful money” it was a promise that the note could be redeemed for such. But in 1964, after JFK was murdered, the Fed changed the notes once again. This time the notes were no longer legal under the Constitution, reading “This Note is Legal Tender for all Debts, Public and Private.” Just because it says it’s legal, doesn’t mean it is. Since 1964 Federal Reserve notes are no longer redeemable in silver or gold, and are therefore illegal under the Constitution. More evidence that Constitutional law is no longer in force and has been superseded by courts of public policy.

Once JFK was out of the way, it seems the real power behind the scenes was determined to never let something like this happen again. Never again would they risk exposure, nor would they ever again be challenged by a sitting US President. Since 1964, the tabulation of votes in a national election are handled by a private company, owned by TV networks and wire services, without any official oversight. The name of the company doesn’t really matter because it always changes its name, but is ultimately controlled by the CIA Operation MOCKINGBIRD. Another casualty of the coup de grace is the vote, and the election of our officials. It seems that JFK may have been the last publicly elected President of the United States of America.

More to follow...


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I will leave it at this for now. Within ten years of the 1907 banker’s panic, American soldiers were fighting the Great War in Europe. Within ten years of the Wall Street crash of 1929, a second World War had erupted. Ten years after 9/11, we will be facing the speculative doom of 2012. More recent history seems to be clearer than ever that we are rapidly falling into a global fascist state. 9/11, the Patriot Act, ever increasing war and turmoil in the Middle East, on and on, the signs are all there and they only point in one direction. The New World Order is at hand.

“The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.” –Adolf Hitler

Best of luck to those of us who still cherish freedom.

Please post your thoughts. Thank you.

Interesting points of note.. (a) all major players that you have mentioned were all Freemasons or one or other of the various incarnations
(b) mayer amschel started the freemasons

(c) migration of certain bankers from the UK to America prior to WWII

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Enjoyed reading your posts. It is good to see that some members still take the time to actually think about what they are going to post before they start typing. This is a very interesting topic and glad you took the time to put it out there for us to read.


Now I am starting to think that maybe our national debt is a fabrication. If the federal reserve owns the U.S Government and all property within then any loans and debt owed to the federal reserve are only on paper.

I can't lend myself $100.00 to buy a t.v and then pay myself back with interest.

Great posting Jack, its nice to see someone beginning to compile the information in a timeline. It would be amazing to get a listen at this years Bildergerger meeting because I feel with the unravelling of secrets kept quiet for centuries, the elite group of bankers running the show have got to be getting nervous. I predict they pull the internet plug next.

If anyone is interested in gaining a greater understanding of how our economic system came about, how it works today, and how it is terminally flawed, please visit Do Not Watch This Video... A lively debat ensues there on the thread, but the video speaks for itself.

Here are two more threads I started as well, relating to what I have condensed here, realizing that the subjects were directly related:

JFK killed for $5 billion ???
U.S. Constitution invalid for nearly 75 years

Interesting post. I am from the US but i am sure that future events are going to affect the entire globe sothis concerns me as well.
My question is, regarding power, if you own all the chips then what is the point of playing the game?
If they own all the power already then why take it further? Once all the power on the planet is run by a single source there would be nothing more to gain.
Not to mention that once the players have been exposed and the plot twist takes place,people arent just going to stand for it. The was progressing fine as it is, what would be the point of wrecking what we have built or worse condemn our entire race to genocide?
There has to be a goal they are trying to reach. Are they fufiling biblical prophecies? ( which in my opinion has already passed and they are wasting their time trying to accomplish this ) Or maybe they need to disarm our entire race to make way for an invasion of sorts?
Either way things dont look good for the future.

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I think that COULD be where the possible ETs some into play, with a world government in place whoever is in power here on Earth would more likely try to be in the favor of whoever ETs may be. Politics with external forces, like trying to impress the ETs.
Sorry if I may be going a little off track.

This is a fantastic thread jack.I'm not American but I have an interest in history.
The more I read your posts, the bigger and clearer the picture became to me.

How can information like this get filtered down to the average American so they can reclaim their sovereignty?
Well thought out and put together!Please add more if/when you can.
Starred and flagged.

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You are absolutely right to presume that events in the US will have global impact. Coincidentally, events in the US started to have global impact at about the same time the US Constitution was suspended and the vision outlined therein ceased to exist. The effects of the Great Depression boomeranged the globe until WWII fired up. The stakes are much higher this time around.

"...Get your people back and heads down, this is gonna be a big one."
-radio operator, just before napalm strike, Apocalypse Now

My question is, regarding power, if you own all the chips then what is the point of playing the game?

What was Emporer Palpatine's goal? True evil is simply evil for the sake of evil. It serves its own purpose. Anything else disturbs the void that exists without light.

These people are not playing a game either. Once they have everything, they can do what they want, whenever they want, without challenge and in the open.

Even the rich kid who owns every toy still enjoys playing with them.

Not to mention that once the players have been exposed and the plot twist takes place,people arent just going to stand for it.

The players and plot twists have already been exposed, but so many people are having trouble believing me right now. It's not going to get any easier to take a stand and be heard in the future. The preperation for the NWO is in its final stage. Once it is here, it is too late. The holocaust ovens will already be burning. You should look to German history in the years leading up to and during WWII. That will give you an example of just how much people will stand for. The German people were not inherintly evil, and look how effectively they were manipulated into supporting true evil. I have said it before and I'll say it again. Nazi Germany was a test model for the NWO.

...progressing fine as it is, what would be the point of wrecking what we have built or worse condemn our entire race to genocide?

What have we built really that is so important? An overpopulated civilization? The beautiful structures will be there for the overlords to enjoy with or without the common man. The necessary industries to keep the overlords content can be run by slave labor. A real skeleton crew.

Genocide doesn't even need to be carried out at this point. The population has become so large that we will suffer a population crash in natural course. In fact, deliberate overbreeding might be the key to comitting genocide on a global scale.

Or maybe they need to disarm our entire race to make way for an invasion of sorts?

David Icke has talked about a Reptilian threat. I admire his work, and he has a lot of good information, but I'm not sold on the whole Reptilian thing entirely. On the other hand, I do believe in the possibility of alien interaction on various levels throughout history.

Not to mention that sometimes it really does just seem so logical that the human race really is just being fattened up for the kill. What if every ten-thousand years or so, some race of beings come down to Earth and have a massive feeding frenzy. Are we all just foi gras for the aliens? Perhaps there are human colonies scattered across the galaxy like pig farms. This is a bit out of the zone, but I have studied about vampires a bit too. Could they really exist? Are they the hidden overlords at the top of the pyramid of power. Is this why the legend of the vampire permeates global mythology? Perhaps. But at this point it doesn't really much matter. If we have been sold out by a few key players at the top of the human ladder of power, I wanna eat their livers out with a spoon! (Speaking of selling out humans, I am reminded of the character in the movie Dark City played by Kiefer Sutherland. A good sci-fi flick if you haven't seen it.)

Thanks for posting. You gave me a sounding board for some more of my thoughts.



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Well, that's one way of looking at it. And it would answer a question made by another member here.





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I applaud your enthusiasm. Don't know where you're going, but keep it up! "Speak the speech I pray thee."

NWO? What a bunch of chumpstains! Look at these characters. Watch their money go, go, go, gone. Don't these people read history? Didn't they go to school? I guess some of their Nobel Prize winners went to school. -------------------------------------PC

Regarding overpopulation, I originally posted the following at New World Order Questions About Population Control:

If the NWO intends to deliberately wipe out the bulk of human population on Earth, I certainly believe that it is technologically feaseable and within their means.

As I said before though, I think they are just planning to manage an inevitable population crash.

I'm gonna share a little story I heard back in college, but I can't remember the specific details for sure so please don't nitpick. The general point of the story remains the same. This is how a population crash occurs.

Teddy Roosevelt liked to hunt game in Yellowstone. It may have been moose in particular, so let's just say that's what it was. The only problem was, that the wolves were getting their fair share and leaving little for the hunters. So the President decided to call it open-season on the wolves. Within a year or two there were plenty of moose, too many in fact. They now overpopulated the area, and could no longer be sustained by the environment. They did not start do die off, or die off slowly to adjust to their environment. They all died suddenly. There were not enough resources to sustain them all, but they each took a small share, and therefore there were not enough resources for even some to survive. If a few had been able to horde away resources, they would have been the only ones to survive.

The NWO is hording the resources. Everything is funneling right into their pockets. They may be speeding up the process even, to let the masses work even more furiously to complete their master plan, but I think they are simply capitalising on the inevitable.

They don't have to "pull it off." It's going to happen with or without their help. Human population has been artificially inflated and already has outstripped natural resources, hence the genetic modification of foods.

This is also why American are so fat. They eat food with minimal to no nutritional value, leaving them in a perpetual state of nagging hunger. The body is hungry, calling for nutrients, so the person feeds their stomach but not their body only half realizing why they are hungry. Yes, fat people are actually slowly starving to death.

Stop crying, complaining, being afraid. Start laughing. -------PC