Kazakhstan Chief of police witnesses UFO crash into river!

On January 5th, the chief of police saw a shiny metallic object fall into the Belaya river in Northern Kazakhstan. Divers were deployed and examined a 15-meter air hole. Officers of the sanitary and epidemic office collected water samples, interfax agency reported. Nothing found yet, but this could get interesting!

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Not every day we get a CHIEF OF POLICE reporting a UFO crash landing!

My feeling on this is that it was NOT a crash landing, but probably a craft intentionally submersing itself and traveling upriver. I have seen lots of accounts of USOs (unidentified submersible objects) entering and exiting major riverways. Perhaps there are bases / docking sites at the bottom of some of these entry / exit points.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Not every day we get a CHIEF OF POLICE reporting a UFO crash landing!

Police chiefs from the US, the UK, and other 1st world countries may sound like very educated and respectable people - in fact, just to become an officer in such countries a certain level of higher education may be required.

However, I come from from a 3rd world country. Higher education is optional and not required to become even the chief of a specific department - you just need popularity, and some luck.

I'm only saying this because you emphasized the fact that this guy is the chief of the local police department. To me this person should be no different than the average Joe that claims an UFO crashed into a lake.

Anyways, lets see what comes out of this.

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I am confused by the term 'air hole' in a river. Could anyone explain this to me please? I'm sorry, I just don't get it.
Thanks

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Thats what I was wondering....when I thought..."what, no pictures?"

But then, can you take a picture of an "air hole" whatever that is!?

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I'm wondering if it's some sort of disruption of the standard flow of the water. Or perhaps there's continuous bubbling in the area? I hope there are more details released and would love to see more witnesses come forth. My guess is that the Police Chief probably wasn't the only one to witness this, probably just the most prominent figure.

Now that would make sense. Something I hadn't thought about. Reminds me of the fishers near Nova Scotia? or thereabouts who set out on a rescue mission thinking they witnessed a downed airliner who reported yellowish glowing bubbling seas. Now that would make sense. Also would explain the quick testing of surrounding waters for contamination.

Well this guy's just as crazy as Dennis Kucinich is.

What a nut. I hope the media covers this and tells people how utterly insane he is.

/sarcasm

I think the chief was actually quoted as saying, "Nice! UFO crashed and left air hole 15 meter like sleeve of wizard."
Kidding...
Sorry.

I am very confused as well by the air hole???
Hopefully there will be a follow up to the story, but when nothing is found there will be nothing to report.
This is probably the last we'll here of this.

Just another 'nothing' story with minimal content and an eye catching headline "UFO drowned in Kazakhstan:Emergency Situation Department".

Fluff piece in my humble opinion, but I'll keep an eye out.

I think the air holes has something to do with ice.

I'm completely unawared about the climate in Kazakhstan, but isn't it winter there?

Perhapes the river has a frozen surface, and the air hole is about that.

All of the above is assumptions I'm making... not claming I know what I'm talking about... just trying to figure it out too.


Peace

double post

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I looked at the Pavlodar area on google Earth, some scans do give the impression of frozen lakes, so wouldn't be surprised if smaller rivers get frozen as well. Plus it seems to be a very cold place - just checked their weather, rigth now they are at -33C, yep, a minus sign in fron of that 33 lol.

So yes, when they say air pockets, they are referring to holes below frozen water.

However, if temperatures are so low in winter, then it's hard for be to believe that they sent divers to investigate.


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um there is no problems with sending divers . The temerature of water under the ice will be higher and if they wear dry suits (no idea how that is in english) they wont feel the cold . The question is , if they consider this a importand event and get trained divers donw there ?

With all due respect. If it was merely a hole blown in the ice why the stat water testing?

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Even though this is an old post, its a very interesting one. I am from Kazakhstan and decided to do a search on ATS for anything to do with my country. I found this stunning thread, that I hadn't heard of before. Decided to do some research on Russian and Kazakh sites.

I will say this, there wasn't any false information given by the government. This event was reported by the media and even the government owned news channel. You could say we are open to this topic, but it is still doubted.

I found a reliable Kazakh news article, its written in Russian. So I will be providing my own translation, and will try to work out the grammatical errors that come out of translations.

Internal Affairs of the Pavlodar region are searching for an unidentified flying object. According to eyewitnesses, on the evening of January 4th over the village Koktobe, a UFO fell into the river Belaya. At the crash site, a hole with a diameter of 15 meters was discovered. Local people believe - a UFO had crashed into the river, experts of the Department for Emergency Situations said it might have been a meteorite. But so far none of the possible explanations are confirmed.

At about 8pm on January 4th, the villagers of Koktobe in the south Pavlodar region saw a bright glow in the sky. An Unidentified Flying Object flew over the houses and fell into the Belaya river about 1-2 kilometers from the village. At the reported crash site, a hole of a diameter of 15 meters was discovered in the ice. Near the site of the crash, huge chunks of ice were found nearby.

Although no one heard any noise of the crash, something really did crash in the river says one of the locals Oleg Maslov. It's not easy to break ice that has a thickness of 50 centimeters. The ice during winter easily holds a weight of up to 7-8 tons. Can you imagine what the force of impact would be to break something like that?

Another eyewitness to incident is the Chief of Police Department in the district, Kanat Soltambayev. He was the person that reported it to his department and it reached the regional government.

January 6th. Employees from the Department for Emergency Situations were sent to the scene. They began to investigate and collected samples of the water and ice. The presence of radiation or any other toxic substances were not found.

January 7th. Divers were sent to explore the river to find any signs of anything that might have crashed in the river. The depth of the location where the incident took place was 5 meters. After 4 dives, nothing was found.

January 8th. In the city of Pavlodar, the governor Alexandra Verbnyaka held an emergency meeting where the Internal Affairs reported the results of the investigation. None of the experts could say for certain what had actually happened. If a meteorite had fallen, where are the traces of melted ice from crash into the ice. Despite the fact that numerous spacecraft are launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome. The region where the incident took place, does lie along the flight paths of some of these spacecraft. It might have been debris from the spacecraft, although that can be ruled out. There were no launches on the 4th or 5th of January from the Baikonur Cosmodrome. After the full report was given, Governor Alexandra Verbnyaka instructed that the investigation be continued.

January 9th. The exploration of the depths continued and yet again nothing was found. The media began reporting this incident and said that a meteorite had fallen into the river. However, the Department of Emergency Situations denied this. Repeated search operations came to nothing, no wreckage of any kind was found - said Deputy Head of the Department of Emergency Situations Igor Filonov. The radiation levels are normal, water samples yielded nothing. Igor Filonov could not answer exactly what had fallen into the river.

Source

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Now, there is no other information about this incident. This is as much information I could find. I guess, no more information could be found on the incident. Something did crash, but no one could determine what and it was dropped.


I hope to hear on what you guys think and hopefully my work wasn't for nothing.

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15 meter hole, yellow glow? Sounds like a small meteor impact.


It would be glowing yellow from the heat generated upon entering the atmosphere, since when something is heated the hotter it gets then the more energy is emitted at all wavelengths. Also the fact that meteors have been clocked going anywhere from 25,000 mph to 160,000 mph.

So if the meteor was dense, and travelling at high speed, it would easily generate the necesssary energy to crash through the ice.

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Actually, from both the first and second article. Nothing was mentioned of a yellow glow. On the first source, all is said that it was a glowing object.

Now, it might have been a meteorite. But where is the meteorite itself ? More than 6 dives happened and not a single thing was found on the depth, wreckage or impact hole on the depths.

Let's look through the facts again, a glowing flying object flew over the houses of the eyewitnesses and fell into the river. No one heard anything, but only saw it crash into the river. Strange that if something that had a force like that, would make no sound breaking through the thick ice.

Next comes the ice and hole itself. A 50 foot in diameter hole, in 1 foot 8 inch thick ice. I don't know physics, but like you said. Something dense and fast had to have made that hole. But then again, the experts at the scene said there was no evidence that a meteorite had fallen there. No traces of melted ice near the hole, all they knew something hard and dense crashed there with a huge force.

Finally, where is the meteorite itself ? If it really did fall, and crash through a 50 centimeter thick ice. There would be traces of the meteorite found on the depths of the river. The river is only 5 meters deep, after crashing through that ice. I would expect it would still be going down with a substantial speed and would leave a mark on the depths. But, after numerous dives. Not a single thing was found on the depths.