What if Earth is actually hell that we are here to fix our mistakes?

reply to post by jca2005


Great thought.
I have often touched on that same theory when I was particularly annoyed with reality. But I think that requires well too much judgementality seeing as reject the idea of a in your face judgemental diety.

I think in the end (read death) we judge ourselves after being shown what our acts and etc caused.

I have a theory that we are in fact baby ummm godling (?) in the womb which also happens to be school and we can choose to come back (reincarnation), stick around (heaven/hellish thing), or go off and become our own realities which in turn has other ummm whatevers. Go ahead call me nuts.

[edit on 14-1-2008 by WraothAscendant]

Hell on Earth.

this is the duallistic version of religion that the Gnostics practised. Your thinking has been around at least 2,000 years - though obviously they did not disuss pover the internet.

if earth is hell, then hell is not really that old (on a universe scale).
nonetheless, if planet earth is indeed hell, then which planet is heaven?

People, people, people, stop and consider something, as in what you are saying about reincarnation and the continual cycle of returning to better yourself, ourselves, society as a whole and take a look around you.

How long has reincarnation been going on? How many times have each of us returned to "better ourselves?" If this concept were correct, the world would be getting better and better and better, due to the fact that on each return we have learned something new and bettered ourselves and that pouring out into society. The opposite is true. Things are getting worse and worse and worse and men are getting more and more evil. The more enlightened men have become, the more dangerous times have become.

Final analysis, if reincarnation were true, it has developed a glitch along the way.

It's about the closest thing to "hell" that anyone wil ever experience, in my honest opinion .

posey, look at it this way. the earth is a "middle school". it will not
get appreciably better because it always has new students. the better
(more spiritual) students graduate to another class, not necessarily
the earth. how many of us will flunk this school???

If "Hell" exists, that is to say, if your conscious mind in understanding exists in a place outside the loving will of God, then you'll know why it is your in hell.

If this was hell, you'd all know exactly why you are here.

If hell exists, you'll find yourself in it because you rejected the supreme will of the creator of all things our father God.

Have you? If you are unsure if you have, or if you know that you have not, then you should know you are not in hell yet.

I thought about this too, and most people will not have learned much, and they just continue there mistakes. Most peope are just pure evil, and the world they create they can keep.

The worst people are the ones that make the society the way it is, and there the ones who think they make it great with there apathy and crimes etc... (i.e police and governments)

Good thread, its something no one ever speaks about, because we just assume that its life, and we only have one here and now.

What if like you said.

[edit on 1/17/2008 by andy1033]

Originally posted by mightymouth


Did you ever see the Bill Murray movie Groundhog Day? He's forced to repeat the same day over and over until he gets it right, at which point he's finally released from that 'hell'. The Earth experience is the same.

The key to being released from 'this hell' is to remember your divinity, your connection to the Universe, hold no grudges, treat everybody you meet as you would wanted to be treated and leave this life with no bad karma or bad energy.

[edit on 10-1-2008 by mightymouth]

i think that is an extremely well expressed thought and agree completely.

reply to post by Incarnated



Hmph how is calling the fact that one exists a crime (sin) when your the creator loving?

Lucifer is an enemy of man, not God.

reply to post by WraothAscendant



I do not understand the question. Having said that I state.

Sin is the rejection of the will of the creator over you own personalize will that is not aligned with the creator's will.

It is like anyone here having been born into a household, (kingdom), where your father is controler and king, and you think your wisdom is better then his so you try to overthrow his kingdom. If you reject your father, the king, and fail (as all such fail) what would make you think you in your rejection of your father's kingdom should be welcome therein?

reply to post by jca2005
1st of all, hell is a biblical concept...I don't recall anywhere in my reading of scripture where it advises anyone to abandon the reasoning faculties bestowed upon them. That being said, here we are; who among us can honestly say that anything comes after this...as for me, I'll continue doing what I see fit & accept the consequence of my error or virtue. I wouldn't want my children focused on anything but the FACTS AT HAND...this seems like the most reasonable approach to achieving a better condition for ourselves in the here & now...it may ultimately be all their is & I'm willing to live with that...it's all that has been PROVEN to me. Are any of you reading this post going to keep asking questions instead of identifying & working to solve the problems that are right in your face? If the stick & the carot are what motivates you, than you're not likely to develop compassion anytime soon, & I perceive through reason that this is the crux of the problems that've developed over the course of history.

reply to post by Incarnated


I hate to answer a question with a question but...........
So you think the universe is ordered after a very human concept of patriarchy?
Taking into account the fact that just a father (or king) does not a family (or a kingdom) make?

And speaking as a father myself.
I encourage and welcome my children questioning me.
Not just blindly following my every word without understanding the whys and logic behind it.


As Budha said in a nutshell "Question everything. Even what I am saying.".
That is the ONLY way you truly learn anything is by questioning it.
Otherwise your only parroting without truly understanding.

Plus I think a being that truly knows everything would be really bored.

[edit on 23-1-2008 by WraothAscendant]

No one can say that there is no heaven or hell, no one has been there and been able to prove this by physical evidence. That does not mean that there could be heaven or hell, in short, it is up to each one to believe in what it considers reasonable in consideration also concerns.
To make this interesting and elaborate especially for those who do not believe one bit in this type of thinking, I would ask you to answer the following:
1st Mention 5pcs things that describe heaven after death.
2nd Mention 5pcs things that describe hell after death.
3rd Take your answers of heaven and hell in comparing the responses, which fits best into your life? But also consider which one fits best into the description of the world today.
So there will be two different opinions / descriptions of the same question, one personal and worldly.
The interpretation is your own and concludes with how strange it may seem. I guess the thing is if you dare to belive in your thougts

My Grandma used to say Earth was the limbo state between heaven and hell. You haven;t been bad enough to go to hell, but not good enough for heaven. So, you get a chance to redeem youself by serving in purgatory (sp)

The only thing that messes that up is she used to say there were many levels of purgatory that you worked your way through before you could enter heaven. It all depended on how bad you were as to what level of purgatory you started at.



( I musta been pretty bad. lol)

Earth is what we make of it... I personally think that our souls are here to progress... we are here until we show that we are worthy to go to the next stage.... When we show that we are capable of unconditional love.. that we can get past our greed, selfishness, hatred and the such we move on to a higher plane of conciousness...

reply to post by wearewatchingyouman


You have a point I think. Assuming that we are here to learn from our mistakes or to join a menatl change lies not far from this Actually could well be hell. The Earth is controlled by Satanists, our lives will in principle only painful experience, physical and mental.
They moments of what we call happiness blurring of unfortunate circumstances which concludes what caused us to be happy. We learn to deal with pain, sorrow, misfortune disease, hunger, injustice, and much much more that not all may be associated with the description of heaven.
Our liven manipulated and controlled so we probably will never understand fully. This can be cleats other than a trial before the souls next trip I guess. Maybe you is born again on earth if you fail to mature? better get my act togheter and fix this test then

If that were true and that is a big if, We are doing a pretty rubbish job of fixing them, Also where is it you think we go when we die? Hell mark II.

reply to post by ReflectedTelevision


I am of the opinion we just stay on earth and start over...