Are there real immortals living among us?

Ok this is odd. I had made many posts earlier in this topic but I cannot find a single one... Thats annoying.

Everyone is immortal though... Imagine yourself in the universe if the world stopped spinning ... time would bo no longer and our bodies would be timeless... just a slow deterioration. So someone could be immortal if they found a way to stop deterioartion and then they could be immortal if they could avoid a way to stop getting attacked by morons with swords and a powertrip (weapons guns etc.)

Personally though... I wish all of you good luck in your beleifs... If I were you I would just try to live your life as healthily, positively, purely, and be a light for the world. If you do those things you might find yourself back here once again... or that you grow really old. The sad part though is all things come to an end. If anyone was immortal im sure they would really hate it. How would you like knowing all the people you killed, all the kids you left behind, all of the knowledge and truths of the world.... would you want it to be your burden? I would honestly hope hed run for president so that we can actually get some anwsers and get a better country. Im tired of barily making ends meat... Hard Work and Dedication doesnt mean a thing in this world anymore.

Sorry if this has already been posted. I did not want to trail through 11 pages worth.

A man who lives in a park in London claims to be immortal. He lives and walks round the park. He says he will leave for ever and i am not certain but i think he says it is down to mind reality and free will, but do not quote me on that. I saw this on a Ricky Gervais DVD, so it must be on youtube or on the internet somewhere. The interviwer is not the brightest spark but also has some interesting ideas on it. It is more of a skeptic view which adds a nice balance to interview type footage. Just thought this was worth a mention. Peace

Originally posted by Paper_Chaser
Sorry if this has already been posted. I did not want to trail through 11 pages worth.

A man who lives in a park in London claims to be immortal. He lives and walks round the park. He says he will leave for ever and i am not certain but i think he says it is down to mind reality and free will, but do not quote me on that. I saw this on a Ricky Gervais DVD, so it must be on youtube or on the internet somewhere. The interviwer is not the brightest spark but also has some interesting ideas on it. It is more of a skeptic view which adds a nice balance to interview type footage. Just thought this was worth a mention. Peace

Here I found it

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I'm pretty sure that if someone was immortal that they would appear young, I mean it's probably the way immortality would work, that your body heals, which includes wrinkles and all the other things that comes with age.

The person in this video looks not young, white hair and all.

If immortality were a mental exercise, and perfecting it was a life long challenge, I would wager that immortals would appear old.

How many teen aged people do you all know who are wise enough to be fully enlightened? I remember being too busy feeling immortal to actually be disciplined enough to become immortal.

Originally posted by shadow watcher
If immortality were a mental exercise, and perfecting it was a life long challenge, I would wager that immortals would appear old.

How many teen aged people do you all know who are wise enough to be fully enlightened? I remember being too busy feeling immortal to actually be disciplined enough to become immortal.

What I meant was that the way immortality would work is possibly healing the body faster than it ages, therefore it will appear young forever.

That to me is the theory that would most make sense when you think about it.

So mind old, body young.

Amazing movie. I loved it every part of the way, especially because of the lesson in history.

I'm a devout anti-religious. The closest I come to a faith is I can see the logic in the teachings of Buddha (ironicly that kinda makes me a christian now, huh? ).

I don't understand why christians get upset about it. If anything it proves them right, but ofcourse they would at the same time have to recognise that the chuch has been feeding them hogwash for 2000 years in order to create revenue and maintain power for nothing other than... revenue and power.

Notice how along the ages of time, the attention towards the truth of the church is renewed through, well... crusades.
The darkages managed to whisk up enough attention to gather knights from Europe in the middleeast and in our age they are finding the "cloth of christ"... how convinient in a time where faith has been fading.

Give people building blocks now and again and they will keep building the house you want them to live in.

Religion feeds masses... and masses feed religion. Perfect circle. And so shall it continue for another 14000 years.
I wonder what god we'll believe in next, or... what god you'll believe in next...?

I loved that passage from the movie: "I have no need for that hypophesis"

Dont know if you have heard of him but heres a video on google sorry if its been posted. Well actually I know theres links on ATS already but Im not about to search them.

Channel 4 Documentary following the revolutionary life-extension and immortality ideas of this somewhat eccentric scientist, Dr. Aubrey de Grey. This show is all about the radical ideas of a Cambridge biomedical gerontologist called Aubrey de Grey who believes that, within the next 20-30 years, we could extend life indefinitely by addressing seven major factors in the aging process. He describes his work as Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence (SENS).

do you want to live forever?

if this is true, not only would it be greedy of you keeping this to yourself but irresponsible. let be known this gentleman of time. he see the future with what he has seen in the past.

One thing I've noticed as long as I have been around is that mortals act as if they will never die while my kind the "Shiaukaar" (as we are called in one older than this earth language) live our lives as if we may die soon.
And being born over and over is no picnic. I long to be with my heavenly father again, but it's my sworn duty to remain until the 1,000 year reign.
You have short lives, all of you, please live it right, hate no one or your troubles will not end when you die.
The term "Shiaukaar" comes from a world many light years from here, a moon that has sentient life. This moon is called "AAUSAUNAU".
"Shiaukaar" means "Nomad". Two of our kind exists on every world, however, there are 5 of us here, because this world is the worst off, and needs more help.
This is not a hoax. If anyone thinks this is a hoax then watch the news for black triangle sightings, 12 in all at Washington DC in broad daylight moveing from the east heading west, exactly.

from: NOMAD

Questions for you.

What apparent age or ages are these immortals?
Why have you not so much as mentioned their apparent ages?

Would not that be one of the first observations you would make, looking for a consistancy or pattern? A way to validate the next candidate.

For this omission, I doubt your credabilty!

Some things to look for anyway.

What musical, artistic, literary, and so on, talents, knowledges, skill sets can they demonstrate?

I would expect an immortal to be able to weave like a master, play numerous musical instruments, be versed in numerous languages, be a master of many aspects of engineering, mathematics, physics.
They would be an expert in every fighting art, out of the need for self preservation.

They should have mastered the game of chess centuries ago.

They would be the most cautious individual you ever met, refusing to risk things you take for granted. The life expectancy is only 600 years for an immortal. After that statisticians tell us an accident will have stolen their immortal life.

I would provide simple tests for each field and skillset.
Including risk aversion. Unannounced of course. A simple ride in a sportscar would be enough to disqualify a candidate.

Oh, and don't forget to ask them what they do for entertainment?

If I were an immortal, I would play World of Warcraft and other video games. Why, they are something relatively new, for a while anyway.

I'm interested in the topic in general,

but to me it just seems like he is trying to drum up some interest for his future book... everything points to his site..

plus...

As another poster commented, his list of "friends" reads like a who's who of history. People who are easy to research and find out information about to go with his story.

Seems like he is using the forum to also flesh out his story a little more too :/

Sorry, but I'm a bit skeptical.

Even if this guy is really in contact with someone who claims to be 2,800 years old, it seems like someone is jerking some chains.

Some appear young some appear old, they have knowledge more advanced than you could possibly imagine. The can even use that knowledge against others. dont believe me? Ask the mods! you will never find one! although you may already have seen one. The answer to your question is there are many out there. And for all you none believers ask the mods to trace the origin of this post. Maybe just maybe you will have a huge huge shock. Knowledge can equal manipulation of any system including this one!

And if they do; what could they tell us about the history of our civilization?

"What questions would you ask someone who is 120 years old? Or someone 200 years old? Or maybe someone who has lived more than 500 years? What if you met someone that has lived more than 1,000 years?"

Compared to your time have things gotten progressively better, the same, or significantly worse? Who were the famous people in history you have met and are there any unsung hero's that you would wish to share with me/us?

"I believe that I have successfully located and made contact with a man whose age is nearly 2,800 years old."

If you are telling the truth about this, kudos.

Though I find your tales intriguing, I also find them rather "tall".

1. 5 Books?

As you can see from reputable authors, they provide evidence as they write and would not need a 5th book entitled evidence, funny how the evidence book is the last one you will create.

Meaning an interested party would have to fork out 5 x the book price.

2. Publishing?

My field in graphic design and publishing, I know for a fact the figures your quote for publishing are way exaggerated - and you claim to already spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on finding this guy, perhaps you should of invested in a decent website for a couple of thousand to show your professionalism and actually have independently verified evidence.

3. Fields of Study.

It seems your fields of study encompasses already, all the necessary information you would need to conjure a story about a man who lived in biblical times.

4. Professional Remote Viewer.

I wasn't aware of a government acredited remote viewing school that hands out proffesional accreditations. Please enlighten me in regards to this.

5. Curriculum

"History buffs will be fascinated by the eye witness accounts of his life experiences spanning 2,800 years. Eventually, professors and teachers will encourage students to read this book as part of their class curriculums. Buried within the enthralling stories, is an inspiring self-help book drawn from one man's personal success at improving his physical, emotional, and spiritual well being over the centuries"

For starters, a book that will be read in educational institutions usually have a decent amount of evidence to back up the claims of yourself, but I'm guessing I have to buy your book to see the evidence.. no wait I have to wait til the 5th book is released to see if this is actually real...

Sorry to burst your bubble but this is nothing but a batch of creative writing, created to exploit the open minded people on ATS and the internet as a whole. Though I'm sure their are "immortals" living among us - that little voice in your head isn't one I'm afraid.

Oh for your information, international plane travel isnt that expensive to go to europe from a guy that claims he's spent hundreds of thousands on research already.

As open minded as we are here, we still need hard evidence before we will take you seriously.

it is about $50K to do an eBook "the right way" and another $50K to do an initial hard cover the right way. These costs include editing, formating, websites, marketing, and promotion.

Sorr for jumping in without being addressed, but 50 thousand sounds like an awfully excessive price for an e-book! Who gave you that quote?

A few months ago I helped a friend put together an e-book. It wasn't a commercial book, it was a textbook, but my friend is very particular about appearance. So we put together a beauty of a book, with just the right typography and even illustrations.
Since he had all the text ready, all we had to do was to spellcheck the text, find the appropriate letter type (we chose Palatino), check the layout for possible errors ("bastards" and such) - and voila. He uploaded the book onto the website. By next morning almost 40 people had downloaded it (but they knew it was upcoming).





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Pick up dirt, it will be forever. You will be immortal brother. In time, you will have become all things.

"What questions would you ask someone who is 120 years old? Or someone 200 years old? Or maybe someone who has lived more than 500 years? What if you met someone that has lived more than 1,000 years?"

I would ask: "Have you learned anything about the meaning of all this - of life? And if so, what is it?"

size=5]All Hello, I am writing to respond to your interesting claim. The notion of immortality is obviously appealing, but practically problematic unless we have instruction from anyone who manages to accomplish it.
Thus, if someone manages this feat, and it is merely a genetic fluke, it doesn't do us much good. Whereas, if there is a different reason for the evolution of that person, so that they no longer suffer death, then it would be very valuable to know precisely what steps they took to achieve that state or condition.
Naturally, we are all fascinated by the stories, legends and tales of those who achieve what appears to us to be miraculous accomplishments of any kind. However, beyond mere fascination and the interesting experience we have when we read some legend or tale like that, I have a deeper interest: I am one who believes that the evolution of mankind is incomplete, and that it is possible, under certain conditions to force that evolution. Whether the tales of St. Germain, or any other presumptive immortal are factual would be beneficial only to the extent that they help those of us stuck in our current level of evolution to complete this task ourselves. Any truly evolved being would be easily able to manage the minor problems associated with hiding themselves, manufacturing good papers, or whatever else might be required of them. Further, boredom would be much less a problem for an immortal than it is for us. Most of us live and die trying to escape being bored. Those who find the keys to using death to overcome it, those are the ones worth speaking with.
May you all be well, for a very, very long time.
Reconcilio