What the GREYS plan to do

I do not buy much of this Grey stuff either, but supposedly aliens and humans are supposed to be doing research on mixing DNA, among other things, at Dulce military base.

Not "Grey's", it is just rumored some aliens are, however it could just be humans, conducting cruel research, upon their own species.

Having looked into this for quite some time, it seems that the "Greys" are not invaders, but have a different mindset than us...

They are more like scientists, and view us not as a sapient species, but more like a lab monkey. At one point (after our radar systems proved capable of crashing their saucers in low speed flight), they changed this view, and entered into an agreement (Hollerman AFB)...basically a trade of "legalized" abductions in trade for technology, and cooperation. This was preferable to the govt, as the alternative seemed to be our destruction...or at least, a pretty costly war of sorts....

Eventually, they went outside this agreement, and an altercation happened (most point to the Dulce incident)... At some point, we had advanced a weapon that at least made it extremely costly for them to continue to break the treaty, if not outright counter the threat... So, a new (and presumably the current) agreement was reached.

There do seem to be other types of aliens out there, but the government's interaction with them as opposed to the greys...seems to have little if any documentation...

Originally posted by Chronic
what you dont want what i said to happen or tha thing on the web site?

WHAT???

Fist of all www.geocities.com... does not even work anymore. (yahoo says user has exceeded traffic quota or some crap). Next question is, if the greys are planning to use us as footsoldiers when is the intergalactic war between the greys and the others supposed to begin?? And why would they need humans when they can snatch and grab our atomic bombs and nukes. Don't they have technology such as anti-gravity and stuff, and lasers!!! How will our primitive minds be able to help??

The greys "implanting/training" us for a ground battle against shapeshifting super phsyic lizard people seems about as smart as the US government training monkeys with clubs to fight off the Russians. I don't think a ground battle, featuring mind controled humans would nessisarlly be the smartest tactic for the greys. Then again humans do kinda have a nack for killing things.

Anyways, aren't the greys and the Draco's supposed to be working together? Also, if they are not (working together) anymore, why would they fly over from there perspective planets, just to fight a war here? And if ANY alein was planning an invasion, why did they wait untill we (humanity) got a bunch of tech, to do it? Wouldn't it have been easier (smarter) 2000 years ago?

They could be involved in other wars or its taking them to long to get here

When I first started to research the UFO - ET subject I so skeptical that it took a long time before the weight of the evidence changed by view.

After that point I veered off into all this wacky speculation about Reptoids that were abducting human babies and making a stew of human body parts in vats under Archuleta Mesa.

Eventually I realized how unfounded and crazy those fears were, thank god. Now all my speculations are strictly evidence-based. I refuse to take seriously the fantastic stories by lone witnesses, by unnamed witnesses, uncorroborated contact stories, etc.

Andromeda is the galaxy closest to our galaxy, the Milky Way, sounds like someone learned this in science class and made up a nice little story



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Originally posted by Gazrok

a trade of "legalized" abductions in trade for technology, and cooperation.

Technology hu ?

Ok anyone see the Movie Dreamcatcher? Its a stephen king movie about the US fighting the Greys in a 25 year war. It even has a great seen at a UFO crash site and how apaches are cutting down the greys. The greys in the movie use telepathy and even can take a human host. Also in the movie there is an different alien parading as a human who was sent to earth to destroy the greys. Im kinda getting sick of this whole grey reptoid freakin nordic whos who and whats going on. Letem land and lets get it on.

Before I go on... I don't really buy into this whle story at all, but I'm keeping an open mind... just like GOD... I choose not to worship any god because I don't know what is right or wrong, so I am basically a religious rogue until I have the evidence for myself.

Anyways, the story goes that the greys evolved in Antarctica from a reptile species. Once they realized that Humans were evolved enough, or discovered humans, or whatever, they interacted with us. Atlantis was the most advanced and peaceful group of humans, so the Greys gave them technology to aide in their daily lives. Turns out that someone figured out that the same technology could be used as weapons and they pretty much screwed up and destroyed themselves before it even left the island. Anyways, the greys managed to leave the planet (much like we are trying to do today) and save their species from the expanding ice cap. I don't know why they didn't just move in with the humans, but I could imagine it was out of fear of being turned into slaves, or maybe it was a disease thing... or possibly they tried and we barbaric humans just decided to kill them because they were different or smarter.

Anyways, the Greys went to some distant galaxy and ended up becoming incapable of reproduction, or had hard time, or something so they started cloning. Once they did that, they no longer had need for reproductive organs and eventually became sexless.

OK, here's a split in the story.

1==> The greys are having problems now because , just like inbreeding, the clones of clones who were cloned, and who's fore'fathers' were cloned, are experiencing medical anomolies. (One theory is that they are here with the DNA mixing trying t alleviate this). The soul is supposedly the same, just the body dies, so they would throw it in a vat for the next generation to feed on. Supposedly each Grey has one or more clones waiting for his soul.

2==> The greys found a planet that is habitable, but after establishing their colony, they found that they weren't the only intelligent species there. There were other lizard-like creatures that were of a higher being, and lesser being. This is what I was talking about in the first post, where one is more intelligent than the other and the lesser intelligence being is used for mele attacks. So, the Greys ended up being forced to be slaves, in a sense. They were kinda forced out of their technology, so to speak. They obviously (from such reports of fragileness) not able to do labor tasks, so they were basically forced to be scientists... much like some of Hitler's scientists.

Well, some of the greys managed to escape and come back to their home planet (earth) where they could build an army capable of defeating the Draconians and liberating their race. I can't remember all of this, but this is what I pretty much got from what I've read. Basically they came back for our aide, hoping that we were evolved enough to handle their technology responsibly this time. Betcha they got a hell of a suprise!

So that is what I've come to understand about the whole thing. I've heard more of the first part than the second part.

Also, and I can't remember how the greys fit into this, I remember reading about what used to be the atlanteans being basically an Aryan race (could Hitler have heard this? Is that why he thought blonde hair and blue eyes meant superior?). Supposedly earth used to be a galactic vacation spot until the last cataclysm (which supposedly nearly destroyed the earth's biosphere). So, this once beautiful vacation spot was turned into a sort of jail, kinda like Australia was. I believe this was a scientologist proposition... actually, I think it is because I remember something about Elron Elray's reincarnation, L.Ron Hubbard. Scientologists are pretty screwed up, so I'm naturally disinclined to believe any of the scientologist crap.

So there... a quick comp of the Grey conspiracy. Like I said, I won't truely believe anything until I have proof for myself... partly because I came to the conclusion a long time ago that it's only a lie if someone can prove it... I just took a piss... I could be lying, or I maybe not. You can't prove either way, so don't believe either way, just remember it in case it IS proveable one way or another later down the road. Also, believe it COULD be true, just in case it is... that way you aren't totally caught off guard. Just don't get netted into the conspiracy stuff. Keep your distance and keep a good eye on it.

what is Archuleta Mesa??? Is it some planet or something?

most of the books on the subject (john e mack , david jacobs, etc)suggest something along those lines

Originally posted by XFactor
most of the books on the subject (john e mack , david jacobs, etc)suggest something along those lines

You have got to love the review of David Jacobs' the Threat on Amazon:

"Sometimes pop culture produces its best comedies by accident--witness the Hula-Hoop craze, roller disco, and now the alien abduction phenomenon. In this hilarious "expos�" David Jacobs reveals the secret agenda that compels aliens to abduct human men and women. Some of the best material is in his section on research methods, where he decries the use of hypnotism by other alien-abduction specialists, because it can produce false memories; he then goes on to explain that most of his data comes from hypnotically induced recollections. The stories he relates from the various abductees he has worked with are all titillatingly sexual, and Jacobs writes that this consistency proves not that people are prone to sexual fantasies, but that the aliens are using humans for their breeding program. Filled with delightful howlers of this sort, The Threat is a laugh riot from beginning to end. Toss out your Dave Barry books and move up to the real thing."

Not to offend anyone here, but this thread is almost as much fun. Aliens giving technology to Atlantis.

Don't mean to be a snob, but when people post these "stories" can you please back it up with some links or book titles. WHERE are you getting your information to draw these conclusions? I really have a hard time believing all these secrect U.S. military interactions with aliens on bases...so any evidence would be nice.

Gracias.

Originally posted by Chronic
the gouverment should toture greys threw intense pain until they talk and after they talk either lock em up or shoot em in the head

Wow, dude...thats a very stong view to have on something you could barley begin to understand without hard evidence or experiences....

You should stay open minded to all the theories on the greys, yes they could be hostile, or exploiting us...but there is a chance as a species we might come out better for it. And if these Dracolians are on their way...then there's little we can do about it now, other than to accept the fact and do our best....

paranoir has caused so much pain and death. My opinion is that taking the ultimate militant stance is no way forward...

that was all a little loose minded, but i know what i meant

If the greys feel we can take on this other race, then I can see certain things from this.

1. Greys are more advanced than us, and the other race, but strength wise, and ferocity is no match.

2. The "Draconians" will probably be like the aliens we saw in the movie Sings, and if so, I can see alot of you using water guns lmao.

I'd be more than willing to fight, both greys and "draconians", infact, ANY alien is a target as far as I'm concerened.

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Joshter, I see eye to eye with you regarding your appeal to people to be open~minded.

Of late, the Earth has in all likelihood been visited by BENEVOLENT extraterrestial civilizations ~ alliances or con-federations whose members are not only different in terms of civilizations, planets, galaxies and even universes that they belong to and hail from, but also in terms of species and yet they have taken their differences in stride. So, not only humanoids but also aquatics, avians, insectoids, reptoids, you name it, however mind-boggling it may strike you due to the fact that some of us have been indoctrinated with prejudices of all kinds (such as perpetuating misconception that it is science~fiction stuff) and some of us are moreover amenable to play down the undeniable, if not much superior, intelligence and importance of other species.

The motive of some ETs to help us out can be put down to their benevolence, compassion and highly-advanced technology which can save our planet from ecological calamity, not least by raising environmental consciousness. They are also here to prevent global conflicts with potentially destructive outcome for our planet and to help us control overpopulation (mitigate famine, poverty, rampant diseases in some parts of the world). We should do our part, and not sit idly by giving false alarms, crying wolf.

One might ask - why would what we may call an advanced ET (con)federation or alliance give it much thought to what happens on our planet? Since not only their IQs but also the moral and ethical standards which they abide by are higher than ours, some ETs are bound to be more conscientious and thus more well-disposed to really help us than grays turned out to be. Another reason is that should something catastrophic happened on the Earth, it would potentially have dire repercussions and far-flung impact on an equillibrium in our solar system and, possibly, beyond.

This is ample reason for us, homo sapiens, to be open-minded and not foment prejudices against ETs (using a term like "aliens" smacks of prejudices). We are all part of the Universe (or universes), and therefore noone should be deemed an "alien".

It may come across as somewhat far-fetched, but US President Dwight Eisenhower is indeed believed to have held talks with an extraterrestrial (grays?) delegation made up of two ambassadors in 1954. If one is to go by what transpired subsequently, neither that particular ETs (grays) nor the US government (or for that matter other relevant governments as well) proved out to be constructive or
trustworthy.

It is ordinary, intelligent, cosmopolitan, benevolent, sensible, open-minded, up~and~coming people from around the globe that benevolent ET grouping is now probably counting on. We should not let them down for the sake of our planet, our solar system, our Milky Way. We should seize the day, take them on the offer and be upbeat (not pessimistic as some of you sound).

>SNIP<

Please, read the following sources.

ufocasebook.com|disclosure project.html

Green Bank Formula

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Holy Mackeral, that was alot to absorb. I do believe there are things happening with other beings but to that extent i have to put the brakes on a bit. But as one guy said, if its true i'll eat my words and fight for earth.

Just for fun though, if the grey are proven unsavories, shouldn't we by default trust art least somewhat, the one that offer us help with our grey problem. It seems that if we will be deceived once what difference would it make if the ones we aligned with turned on us, we'd be screwed anyways. IMO stay vigilant and be ready to for the unexpected.

Some people seem to know an awful lot about the Greys. I know nothing, I guess you just have to be connected.

But to what website, lol?

IF the Greys exist, and it is by no means proven so, and if a large chunk of the current Greymania (abuctions, sexual experiments, conceiving children, hybrids, etc,) was true, including the Roswell incident with autopsy and all, then my take on it would be this.

First of all, on Alex Colliers' tacky starwars scenario. An interstellar civilization should reasonably be so advanced in their enlightenment that they can rise above the "Draconian Empire" state, me thinks.

If the Greys - as an alien race - walk upright on two legs, with two arms, a torso and a head, and also have an anatomical similarity to us - which I believe Philip J Corso reported based on autopsy - then they must be genetically related to us.

If the Greys are taking genetic material from us and breeding hybrids between us and them, then my first guess would be that they're doing it for us, not for them. What could an advanced race possibly need from us (except for rare Elvis vinyls)? We, on the other hand, could need an upgrading. Could they be putting genetic material into our genepool, not taking out?
Did you ever wonder how six billion humans can evolve so fast, when we more or less neutralized the process that makes us evolve; natural selection?

www.dailygalaxy.com...

If I was an alien civilization with a virgin planet at my disposal, then I would breed a species similar to myself but integrated with the planet's biosphere, adapted to its particular conditions in terms of gravity, atmosphere, solar and lunar conditions, biological life, and all the rest.
Let's face it, no organism can live for long on an alien planet, everything from bacteria to air to gravity would be out of synch, you can't function correctly long term. No, you would have to genetically breed yourself in, slowly integrate your own genetics with the endemic.

Or, as Genesis says; "God created man in His own image"

Why, by the way, would an all-powerful sublime being that creates Universes - create a tiny little creature on a planet in his image, unless the sublime being was in fact something similar to its creation?

But this is all just hypothetical speculation from my part, I got carried away.

Greys, lol. You mean the leprechauns, right?





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