Things you should know about Planet – X ( Niburu ) before you believe in the disinformation.

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Totaly agree my friend
I personaly have also some times a hard time trying to write what i real mean, in english, because im not so knowledgeable in this language, and some times i had also wrote things in a way that can offend people. What i am terrible ashamed off. As you say we all make mistakes, very true.
Pray continue with your interesting topic, i think it's a delicious theme to debate, and it's a pleasure for me to follow it

Btw...norwegian? Exelent place! I love it!

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thanks for the reply Essan....

well it makes you wonder.... if he never revealed his conclusions...nobody would know about this and we wouldnt have any of these crazy predictions !

so here we are 31 yrs later with all these stories and predictions.

then there is the debunkers of sitchin....i guess he wasnt debunked good enough for the doomsday people out there.



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Originally posted by tep200377
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When the planet Uranus was discovered in 1781, they discovered that it was allready plottet in to the starchart but as a regular star. When time passed by it became clear that the old observations showed that the planet didn’t follow its pre calculated path using Newtons gravitational law. Many said that this was due to an undiscovered planet further away from the sun ( planet x ).

If a new planet like this existed, it could interfere with Uranus gravitational field and thus change the planetary path of Uranus. A young british mathmathichian named John C. Adams then calculated the position to the Planet – X if it whore to exist in 1845. But he couldn’t convince the observation astronomers to search for it with their telescopes.

A French named Le Verrier which also calculated the position of Planet – X ( without any knowledge of John C. Adams work ) managed to make the astronomers search for the planet.

Guess what .. They found it .. and the name is Neptune.

Fin.

I don't really get you, first you say:

"The claim that these objects have a strong magnetic field and absorb all kinds of gasses and dust from its way are just BS. The effect is scientifically and physical impossible. Remember, the universe is almost empty and therefore objects of this size wouldn’t be given these abilities that are claimed. Some say it will pass earth and unload an enormous electrical charge toward the earth and create a shift in the earth’s magnetic field. This is therefore BS."

Then in the above post you talk about the effects that another planet has on Uranus. Also he moon, for instance, has an effect on the seas on Earth.
Would a big, bigger than Earth, object passing closeby, not be able to trigger violent effects?

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Originally posted by tep200377

Originally posted by evanmontegarde
so where did you learn your information about which planet x theories are false and which are true?

I stated facts about how fast planets can travel and that no planet where seen in 2003. I am over 30 years old, so I where here that summer of 2003 when the planet where supposed to pass earth. I didn't see it ..

My information comes from astrological facts and your so called "investigation"... You can allso learn about facts if you read more than just comics and picture stories

Sorry if I'm being unclear. I'm not sure what you're trying to say in this post...my information about "planet-x" comes from sources based in scientific fact and not vague interpretations of ancient writings, and they've led me to believe that there is no "planet-x" that poses any danger to us.

One Planet – X have collided with earth 4, 5 billion years ago and created the moon we have today in the event. This happened right after the earth was formed. It is calculated that the Planet –X was of the same size as Mars when this happened and was completely destroyed in the collision. This theory is partially true. I am not an expert in that field, so I won’t go more into that single event.

For example, how do you know the object that collided with Earth to make the moon has anything to do with a so-called planet-x? Everything I've read on the subject leads me to believe it was a planetoid that formed extremely close to Earth's orbit and not way out beyond Neptune.

well Stichen's work is nice, it was based on someone else's work.

Origins

also the facts about the universe around us change almost by the moment, so what has been read in the past may NOT be accurate any more.

Some explanations fit much better then the "old" understandings of astrophysics.

I'm not saying Niburu/planet X are real in the context you propose as such, but that the information you set your thesis on may not be accurate/current.

This is in no way and attack on the OP, this is just to give more knowledge to help deny ignorance.

I have been reading up on this subject (nibiru/planetX/nephiilim/reptoids) for the past 10 years both on and off line, but what do I know, I read a lot of science fiction too

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hi there digirati.....

thanks for that info on sitchin and the link you provided...looks very interesting. i was wondering where he started from.

well if you have been studying this subject for so long i have to ask.....do you think its true ?

is there anything that really stands out that you wish to debunk in this theory ? ......with your knowledge i think we would appreciate your input.

thanks again....

Well, in all the reading I've done over the years, I've never read a correlation between 2012 and Nibiru/Planet X, this portion of the "story" is what I would call "new". It's something that started around 1998-2000 and has been repeated often. I have not seen it in Stichen earlier works.

It's like two different stories merged and became a new story.

Do I think Nibiru is possible, yes, do I think it will return in 2012, well it's "possible" but for it to do so it would have to be an highly elliptical orbit out side the orbital plane. (either above or below, either would work) the big question would be, can it hide there? Again it's "possible", if it's albedo is low enough it could (in theory) sneak up on us, it has happened before with asteroids.

Nibiru and the Anunnaki are from Sumeria, are they true or myth, this is also a good question, but remember, until 120 years ago or so, Troy was a Myth too. Does this mean they will return, who knows but it does make for interesting study.

Something to keep in mind, the farther back in History you go the more un-explained it becomes, an example is Sumeria it's self, how did the city/state become a reality in such a short time, and why did it's "stories" pervade so many other cultures through out the years.

Hopefully this helps and/or gives you a base to research from, feel free to ask more questions

Originally posted by enigmania

Then in the above post you talk about the effects that another planet has on Uranus. Also he moon, for instance, has an effect on the seas on Earth.
Would a big, bigger than Earth, object passing closeby, not be able to trigger violent effects?

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I was reffering to the magnetic fields and the electrical discharge from a passing planet.

One artist sees it like this :


That a planet has a gravitationall pull is no doubt, but it wont discharge an electrical storm or change a planets magnetic field.


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Originally posted by evanmontegarde
For example, how do you know the object that collided with Earth to make the moon has anything to do with a so-called planet-x? Everything I've read on the subject leads me to believe it was a planetoid that formed extremely close to Earth's orbit and not way out beyond Neptune.

Ah, sorry, then I missunderstood your intire post.

As I wrote, ( and it may have been a bit unclear ) that "A Planet - X" and not "The Planet - X" .. Planet X have been discovered once and that is Neptune as we know it today.

Planet X is not a planet, but a theory of a planet. There are no more anomalies in the gravitational "vobling" out there now to assume another undiscovered planet .

Edit: typos ..

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Originally posted by thedigirati

I have been reading up on this subject (nibiru/planetX/nephiilim/reptoids) for the past 10 years both on and off line, but what do I know, I read a lot of science fiction too

Me too. But what do I know, I read a lot of geology and climatology books too

Nibiru and the Anunnaki are from Sumeria, are they true or myth, this is also a good question

Except in Sumerian myth, Nibiru is not a planet on a 3,600 year ellipitcal orbit And as for the Annunaki, there are 1,000s of different pantheons of gods believed in by millions of people - why believe one lot are real and not all the others?


Incidently - if ancient peoples knew of more 'planets' other than the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, why are there only 7 days in a week?

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That a planet has a gravitationall pull is no doubt, but it wont discharge an electrical storm or change a planets magnetic field.

There is considerable debate raging at this point in time about an electrical universe.(Btw the electric universe model fits what is observed in the universe WITHOUT "dark matter") spinning magnets create electricity, aren't planets and suns Huge spinning magnets??

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Me too. But what do I know, I read a lot of geology and climatology books too

Wonderful, I love people that read, I also read books on archeology, paleontology, ancient myths, and a variety of other subject, sorry if is sounded like I limited myself to science fiction only.

Except in Sumerian myth, Nibiru is not a planet on a 3,600 year elliptical orbit

I'm not sure what you are saying to me, did I post that information or was that part of a link I posted?

Originally posted by thedigirati

There is considerable debate raging at this point in time about an electrical universe.(Btw the electric universe model fits what is observed in the universe WITHOUT "dark matter") spinning magnets create electricity, aren't planets and suns Huge spinning magnets??

You seem to be confused by the difference between gravitation and magnetism.

en.wikipedia.org...

Gravitation is a natural phenomenon by which all objects with mass attract each other. In everyday life, gravitation is most commonly thought of as the agency that gives objects weight. It is responsible for keeping the Earth and the other planets in their orbits around the Sun; for keeping the Moon in its orbit around the Earth, for the formation of tides; for convection (by which hot fluids rise); for heating the interiors of forming stars and planets to very high temperatures; and for various other phenomena that we observe.

en.wikipedia.org...

In physics, magnetism is one of the phenomena by which materials exert attractive or repulsive forces on other materials. Some well known materials that exhibit easily detectable magnetic properties (called magnets) are nickel, iron, cobalt, and their alloys; however, all materials are influenced to greater or lesser degree by the presence of a magnetic field.

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no I'm not confused about gravity and magnetism at all gravity is the warping of the fabric of space, magantism is the force of particle attraction, they are not mutually exclusive, are you saying the earth and other celestial bodies have no "north and south" poles? Hmm I always thought compass' pointed to a magnetic north, I must be incorrect.

However if I am not incorrect and you have a magnet that spins , well............

Edit to add, I was not aware convection was due to gravity, I always thought it had to do with thermodynamics, so I would imagine convection doesn't work at
Lagrange 4 and 5?

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Originally posted by thedigirati
reply to post by tep200377

 

no I'm not confused about gravity and magnetism at all gravity is the warping of the fabric of space, magantism is the force of particle attraction, they are not mutually exclusive, are you saying the earth and other celestial bodies have no "north and south" poles? Hmm I always thought compass' pointed to a magnetic north, I must be incorrect.

However if I am not incorrect and you have a magnet that spins , well............

when you put it that way, the earth doesn't have a magnetosphere because of the spin. The magnetosphere's poles are there because of the spin.

But they aren't allways aligned ..
en.wikipedia.org...

The Earth's field is changing in size and position. The two poles wander independently of each other and are not at directly opposite positions on the globe. Currently the magnetic south pole is farther from the geographic south pole than the magnetic north pole is from the geographic north pole.

A planet's magnetosphere is provided through its magnetic field. To create a magnetic field, a planet or moon must have magnetic material such as iron, which is warm enough to move around to form currents within the planet. Eart are has the biggest magnetic field in our solar system. That may allso be the reason why there is life on this planet. Earths core has a lot of iron in it ..


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......around to form currents within the planet.

thanks

BTW the sun's magnetosphere is the largest

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I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but you may want to check your sources

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Originally posted by thedigirati
reply to post by tep200377

 

......around to form currents within the planet.

thanks

BTW the sun's magnetosphere is the largest

Source

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I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but you may want to check your sources

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Sources for what?
I have never reffered to the sun as a planet, but hey .. I could be wrong..
When it comes to coronal mass ejection, I'm not shure why you brought that up .. Is it because our earths magnetosphere filter out a lot of it?
Please tell me more..

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Different Types of Coronal Mass Ejections At Minimum and Maximum of Solar Activity and Their Relation to Magnetic Field Evolution

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Sorry I thought the title was self evident, CME happen with in the solar magnetosphere, so how big are CME's. Granted some do extend pass this point but not all of them.

If you had followed and read this link I had posted earlier then I think you would understand it, it may just be a failure of communication.

Also, if you follow this link it should have the data on the result of Deep Impact, there were quite surprised to have an electrical discharge just before impact with a "neutral" cometary body. It shows flaws in the "neutral" universe theory, and shows evidence of an "electrical" universe

Originally posted by thedigirati

Except in Sumerian myth, Nibiru is not a planet on a 3,600 year elliptical orbit

I'm not sure what you are saying to me, did I post that information or was that part of a link I posted?

No, but the common misconception is that the Sumerians thought there was a planet called Nibiru. They didn't. Any more than they thought there was a planet called Rupert.

If the Sumerians thought there were planets beyond Saturn, we'd have more than 7 days in the week. We have 7 days named after the 7 known astronomical bodies. QED.

Originally posted by thedigirati
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Sorry, I havent been reading that much about the electric universe. I think it is discussed in other threads here on ATS. I was more into the debunking of the planet - x that is to arrive 2012.

Ps: I wrote a longer reply here, but I suddenly overwrote it with a reply to another thread. And I just don't know how that happend.

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If the Sumerians thought there were planets beyond Saturn, we'd have more than 7 days in the week. We have 7 days named after the 7 known astronomical bodies. QED.

Not from the sources I have found, granted they could be wrong, but is is a college site and not wikkipedia, the Romans started the 7 day week because 7 was thought to be an unlucky number and avoided in the Sumerian period.

If you do have a source for that I would be happy to read up on it