Is there a psychopath conspiracy?

ROFL NGC, yes you would. My dog told me so. HAHAHAHAHA HA. Bruno knows everything. Even when he's sleeping, which is 90 percent of the time.

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But does trying to manipulate such a thing, not admitting that I was, make me a sociopath?

And no fair asking my wife.

Good point for fodder NGC. Firstly, I believe from my limited pachycology classes in school (intentional sp lol), sociopathic and psychopathic are a bit appley and orangey. I would more be inclined to label someone with sociopathic tendencies as the consumate road rager, hip butting old ladies out of the way on blue light specials, or wife beaters that still have an inkling in their id that what they are doing is wrong. Or posters that purposely inspire heated debate on such match tinder dry topics such as 911 and sit back while zealots make idiots out of themselves to get a personal feeling of glee.
Psychopaths are more innately evil. They typically have no sense of conscience or remorse for even the most henious of crimes against humanity. Often very smart and cunning with the collective soul of baby seal beating rabid pitbulls.
I will probably be debunked within minutes, but Bruno told me to tell you so. So yell at him LOL.

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This was why I asked if such tendencies could be a survival technique? By manipulating the social environment, the person could have greater security and comfort, thereby adding to the potential for a greater chance of propagating, which is the biological goal of life in it's most stripped down form. Altruistic behavior is good for the whole of a society, but not always good for the individual.

In all seriousness that may very well be true. We have all read of cases of multiple personalities where the individual's brain short circuits from some major psychological turmoil or event. That being said, the psychos, and socio's still wouldn't be much fun to take out for a beer. Or maybe they would, hmm, guess it kind of depends where ya go I suppose.
I'm SURE no military bunkmate EVER got 'accidentally' iced while his mates were cleaning their guns.

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Conspiracies are born out of lies, blatant lies and cover ups. Many do not see and beleive everything that is presented to them on a daily basis. I consider myself, not a psychopath, but someone in the know. Someone who through much time and effort has taken it upon myself to "investigate" certain things and have arrived at certain determinations based on those lies and cover ups.
I would say my character fits a higher desire to find the truth and i do not see any "mental" illness associated with this.
Of course, the government would love to classify "the knowing" as mental illness.
Not a chance, buddy.

Of course all you say is quite correct DG. I agree 95 percent of us here are not delusion psyche wads. If I follow the OP's thought train correctly, I think he was more referring to a minority of posters like my second cousin is a reptilian, or, baby iguanas can be sent to infiltrate area 51. I could be wrong, I often am. Cheers.

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There are some really good points in that post jpm. I too believe that there is a difference between socio and psychopaths on a basic level but I think you may have misconstrued Optimists point. I don't think that he was using ATS as an example(although I am positive there are a few socio and psychopaths here ) but in society in general.

Great discussion folks. Lots of good thoughts about the subject. Nice change from the reptiles ya?

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perversion has many many faces, crazy people tend to be more interesting than conformists, personally I would rather have friends who are so called psychos than any of you "normal" ones

Woaa, serrcruz. I didn't say I wouldn't want to take Freud, Hemingway, Dali, Picasso, or the Van Goghs out for a beer. Madness cuts a fine grain against brilliance. It's the evil ones I'd like to maintain distance from.

it's the 'evil' ones I want to play with

LOL, you have to go to sleep sometime, good luck with that.

hell I'll play with anyone who wants to tango, all I'm saying you may want to lighten up a bit about your labels, the dsm iv is a crock of stool # stacks so high you can't see the top of it, aside from some wacky ideas and drugs psychology is a pseudoscience I trust it less than I do religion, only mysticism pisses me off more in fact...at least with religion it's easy to tell it's a pack of lies, psychology takes a bit more finesse and I'm not talking the garden variety questionnaire or ad hoc experimentation here neither, the really extensive and interesting experiments like milgrams or the prisoner/guard scenario

I'll tell ya a secret: without empathy what's the point to evil?

Someone posted that psychopaths are not psychotic. That is not true, though, as anyone can be psychotic. A psychopath who did too much meth, for example, might become psychotic.

The difference between psychopath and sociopath is one of degree. Most sociopaths do not kill people for fun. They know right from wrong, they just don't care. One might call it the extremely narcissistic person.

Psychopaths, however, have a much deeper affliction. They get their jollies by torturing animals and people. Many psychopaths do know they are twisted, it's just that they have an immense compulsion to hurt people and they enjoy it. It somehow feeds their "soul", if indeed they have one. There is a deep-seated need for them to hurt others thru torture, murder, mutilation, etc.

An early symptom of both of these disorders, especially psychopaths, is that in their childhood, they start to torture animals.

OP, great topic. THanks!

you really believe that do you? that it is so simple and cut and dry? to what extent are you willing to enjoy revenge or do you play it up as that institutionalized of euphemisms? 'justice'

Bundy, Dahmer, etc etc etc. all really enjoyed the power and killing and mutilation. They all got their start with animals. Very well documented.
Serracruz, it's hard to 'wake up' from reality. Let's put the next Bundy in your sisters or mothers condo complex, and see how long it takes for you to want a monster locked up.

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I enjoy the practice as much if not more than the next guy, I know all about that succulent feeling, enjoy your meat while you have your oil economy...by all means depend on it...

amusing...my sister is a fat cow who has misplaced her anger by eating too much...as for my parent's, you don't realize just how parasitical children are do you? go ahead and throw the next bundy into either messhall, I'll gladly lend a hand, but as that isn't going to happen I'm not lifting a finger to do what death will do for me in time, besides killing is overrated the law provides all the tools I need for revenge should I want to use them

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Could you possibly enlighten us then. I don't disagree with you that a lot of modern psychology seems rather, oh whats the word,..... baseless I guess. That it seems to come up with solutions to problems that don't exist yet, then create the problem but I do believe that psychopathy and sociopathy are very real disorders. There have been many examples of the type, both modern and historical.

sure, but you have to be willing to cross the line and do you own work, look at the Nuremberg trials and Milgram's experiments influenced thereof, and the Stanford prison/guard study (which they had to shut down early...got a little too intense for some of the participants lol)...you could also work for a corporation almost any will do, really entrench yourself into that mentality, corporate personhood should never have been allowed but here we are with whole organizations of people turned into slaves to money at any cost, you could also go to south america, rife with fun for you to learn from just join a faction, DEA, CIA, whatever fascionistas have control over whatever country you're in, drug cartels, etc...if you really want to know about these things, do them...oh nearly forgot, all those experiments the Nazi's did, what we are doing to animals and people in clinical trials and even outside of that to whole societies in Africa and Malaysia, you needn't look further than your own backyard or even your own closet to see just what you are capable of...I offer no judgement, I really don't care, delusions allow people to go about their business as usual, sometimes ignorance is bliss sometimes not

people who assign labels to others really should examine themselves first lest they forget what happens when you stare into the abyss or intend to fight monsters...assumptions in the face of the unknown

Some might say that you need to employ or create these types of personalities to take over the world. Than when you're done, quietly do away with them so they don't feel they deserve to be in power as well. Some I suppose might relate these to mercenaries. Some tribes in Africa seem to use these tactics in creating their soldiers from children who are adjusted to it at an early age, or they will die.