Even 'Off' Cell Phones Can Listen In For The Govt

www.break.com-foxnews: Cell Phone Big Brother

Cell phones: For so much convenience we give up our privacy and our anonymity.

Cell phones can track you, record you, I bet they can even kill you if activated just right.

Imagine soon the cell phones evolve into small devices strapped to our wrists or arms. Then evolve into attachments to the ear. Then evolve to implants in the ear. Then evolve to implants in the brain.

If this is real then wow.

Is there any other source? Do you happen to know the date of this video?

Really interesting.

Great post...I think it was Modern Marvels that pointed out that if your cell phone has blue tooth and it is enabled...any one with laptop and blue tooth antenna can search/find phones enabled in the immediate area which I believe is around 30-40 ft range. They can then access directory or whatever is on the phone. It can also be enabled without user knowing and used as a listening device. They also showed a guy pulling up a map and tracking a person over GPS..

This is true. it has been happening to me for years now. It sucks, there's no way out of it. Every call, every image is being sent to the FBI. So how do I get back? I surf for adult content on my phone. yes lots of it. that way they can get their computers all messed up! and I make sure I have lots of KB's for them to check on.

Originally posted by AllSeeingI


Cell phones can track you, record you, I bet they can even kill you if activated just right.

Imagine soon the cell phones evolve into small devices strapped to our wrists or arms. Then evolve into attachments to the ear. Then evolve to implants in the ear. Then evolve to implants in the brain.

You'd have to imagine, because the reality is this is nonsense. I just hope the government aren't listening in on my phone where I live, or like me they'll spend most of their time desperately trying to work out what's being said on account of the fact that I can't get reception.

Saying that if you have bluetooth on your phone anyone can access it is like saying if you leave your door open burglars can access your home.

And jedimiller, I think using an attempt to crash FBI hardware as an excuse for downloading pornography on your phone is brilliant - I'm definitely going to try that next time my girlfriend finds me out!

Originally posted by jedimiller
This is true. it has been happening to me for years now. It sucks, there's no way out of it. Every call, every image is being sent to the FBI. So how do I get back? I surf for adult content on my phone. yes lots of it. that way they can get their computers all messed up! and I make sure I have lots of KB's for them to check on.

You keep amaze me with your posts with utter dissinfo and rubbish. Of all the men and women in the US, I think you are the last one to be listening to.

When that is said, You of all, who claim that people who download movies on the internett should be sendt to prison, .. when did adult content of pictures and video become more legal than ordinary videos?

Get a reality check man ..

Tep. you misunderstood me. I don't download anything to my cellphone. I surf the internet on my cellphone. You can do that with a smart phone and that's the only way to keep the government on their toes..and a good excuse. I have sprint and for 15 a month I have unlimited internet access on my cellphone..for email, pictures, videos, etc. and all of this is being shown on their computers..so the more filth they get from me, the better.

Originally posted by jedimiller
Tep. you misunderstood me. I don't download anything to my cellphone. I surf the internet on my cellphone. You can do that with a smart phone and that's the only way to keep the government on their toes..and a good excuse. I have sprint and for 15 a month I have unlimited internet access on my cellphone..for email, pictures, videos, etc. and all of this is being shown on their computers..so the more filth they get from me, the better.

Well, I got news from you.. Your cell phone with either 3G or EDGE is no different from surfing at home. Its just another protocol for sending data.

I guess you have one of those protocols, and those are not easy to *listen to .. because its binary data, and wery well encrypted. So you are just wasting your time.

* listen ( the video is talking about NMT frequencies, and not binary data.
It has NOTHING to do with your GSM talking.


[edit on 2-1-2008 by tep200377]

Originally posted by tep200377
I guess you have one of those protocols, and those are not easy to *listen to .. because its binary data, and wery well encrypted. So you are just wasting your time.
[edit on 2-1-2008 by tep200377]

Tep, you seem very angry. why at me? anyone should be the FBI. so how do you suggest we fight off the GPS tracking and all the listening that they are doing..taking pictures of our surroundins using our cellphones. what do you suggest then?

Indeed the porn angle may keep them on their toes.
I hope you are joking

They said that taking out the battery works, but that could be a lie.
So, Jedimiller, why the disinfo? Is it an elaborate scheme to persuade us into looking at things on our phone that you and your FBI palls can then watch? I think so.

Good thing it is 5:40 and not rush hour. If it was any other time I probably wouldn't be posting this. But I think you have some serious questions to answer. The truth movement is on to you.

Originally posted by jedimiller

Originally posted by tep200377
I guess you have one of those protocols, and those are not easy to *listen to .. because its binary data, and wery well encrypted. So you are just wasting your time.
[edit on 2-1-2008 by tep200377]

Tep, you seem very angry. why at me? anyone should be the FBI. so how do you suggest we fight off the GPS tracking and all the listening that they are doing..taking pictures of our surroundins using our cellphones. what do you suggest then?

I'm not angry, just think you post stupid assumtions. Take your last post for example. Could you in any way show me any facts that the FBI take pictures with private persons mobilephones? OR at least show me how to take pictures with another cell phone that do not have bluethoot turned on?

If not, where did you read about this?

Originally posted by tep200377
Could you in any way show me any facts that the FBI take pictures with private persons mobilephones?

Well, do you know of the 3G icon on your cellphone? I've had this icon go off and show up on my phone everytime I make a call, or at other times when i'm not using the internet or the cellphone. this icon only appears when information is being shared. And i'm not the one doing it, does that prove as fact? I don't know, but it's an observation I've experienced. and yes, I've talked to art bell about this, on wmails and he believes the same..that they are using our own cellphone to take pictures of us..what can we do? well get a cellphone without a camera or put tape over it.

How about this, check this out -

www.youtube.com...

Scary.

Originally posted by Nyorai

So, Jedimiller, why the disinfo? Is it an elaborate scheme to persuade us into looking at things on our phone that you and your FBI palls can then watch? I think so.

You are too funny Nyorai, even if I don't tell you about it you're going to look at things in your cellphone right? even if you know that they are watching you'll still use your cellphone right? so why does it matter. Only thing you can do now is report it to your carrier.

reply to post by jedimiller


Phew! I already had the gasoline ready for you to flame me with!

Ya that would do a lot of good lol. But what do we do? Our rights are infringed upon like we were ants in an ant garden. Every now and then a story comes out like this, and it just keeps getting worse. Just keeps escalating until so many rights have been ignored or suppressed that the NAU forms and then later the NWO is created.

Perhaps it will be created through fear of the people. Perhaps fear of a tyrannic NAU and NWO will bring us to our feet. Frogs in a pot?

Yippee

Originally posted by Nyorai
Phew! I already had the gasoline ready for you to flame me with!

Nah, I don't flame. but I would have sent out my jedicat to get you! Maybe help slice up your cellphone in half with his trusted lightsaber.

reply to post by TheoOne


Well, our privacy is sure safe from our neighbors. But not from the puppet master keeping it that way. Remember kids, they are just neighbors too, neighbors with a very large bazooka aimed at every move we make. You better watch out. You better not shout.

Jedimiller, your jedicat cracks me up. It's so cheesy; sorry, I already broke my cell phone from dropping it too many times (in water) a long time ago.

reply to post by tep200377


Cellphones are only encrypted between the BTS and cellphone itself doesn't matter whether G3, UMTS, Edge, CDMA) once the
signal gets into the BTS (the base transciever) it is transmitted on T-1 lines which are in standard forms of either SF (super frame rarely used anymore if at all) ESF (extended super frame the most common) typically but not always the settings are B8ZS for your protocol which stands for 8 bits Zero stop bits and yes all towers are linked to Bas Station Controllers via T-1 they are not wireless they come out of the transceiver ( the equipment that talks to your phone) and patch in to a DSX Panel and from there go out over the typical T-1 line to a channel bank in a relay rack at an off site location..


So realistically your calls can be monitored from the base of the tower if need be with a patch through a channel bank and the proper software, or if you can find one for sale though they are illegal to own you can use a radio in the wireless carrier section of the wireless spectrum and monitor the calls directly
I am sure though that someone out there has devised a way to monitor the calls on something as cheap and available as a T-BERD or something similiar..

anyway there are laws against strong encryption over airwaves and line transmission, only under certain circumstances can encryption be used.

The encoding algorithm used on wireless networks is called MuLAW.. Just in case you ever wondered what made you sound like a robot or made your voice morph when speaking that is MuLAW at work trying to assemble an incomplete packett..

So encrypted YES well er umm SORTA

oh yeah and as long as your phone has a battery it emits a signal when off it is in more of a sleep mode than actually off..


Respectfully
GEO



[edit on 1/2/2008 by geocom]

reply to post by geocom


Well I have sounded like a robot even without talking into a cell phone. Conspiracy?

What about computers and headsets? As well as televisions? It seems plausible for a myriad of things to contain privacy invading technology.

reply to post by Nyorai


Anything that emits a signal can be listened to, albeit much more easily when it connects to a network of one kind or another, cable boxes for example would be a great privacy invader as they work off of IP addresses nowadays TIVO would be another great way to spy, if one were so inclined..

So I guess my point is along with the convenience of the digital age there are also privacy issues like Identity theft which has soared since the computer age has taken hold yes it happened before but not on the scale in which it happens today..

So in reality from my point of view ( I work in the the Computer and Telecom arena) there is no such thing as completely secure there is safe safer safest but still no guarantees...

Respectfully
GEO

[edit on 1/2/2008 by geocom]