Is this the typical thought on densities?

I have been reading a lot about densities on here and wondered if this site was projecting the typical view of densities as i have a problem understanding the following statement:

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Beings in higher densities can perceive things in lower densities, but usually not the other way around. For example, human beings see rocks, plants and animals in their world. A rock is not aware of the human. Plants and animals aren't usually aware of human beings either, unless humans make their presence known or felt by them. Beings in fourth density and beyond are likewise normally invisible to humans.

This is obviously not true regarding animals so any thoughts?

Physics and common sense say: Density, the ratio of mass, or quantity of matter, to bulk or volume as compared with the mass and volume of a portion of some substance used as a standard.

EVERYTHING in this universe has different density, density of water is diferent then density of a rock. We are not all 3rd density or whatever, this "philosophy" branch that talks about densities of beings obviously is not aware of what density is.

So, IMO, all this talk about 4th, 5th, 6th densities is just another version of salvation story, hoping for someone else to save us and lead us into a new better world.

www.cassiopaea.org...

Click THE WAVE. Best reading on the subject out there.

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by ImAlreadyPsycho]

I think this is a cult but I don't kno much about them. I think you can either be a religionor cult.


A religion means the truth has been revealed by prophets of God, or of that nature, and a cult is basically a made up sotry without any revelation, just someone who makes true their own perception.



Peace.

So, IMO, all this talk about 4th, 5th, 6th densities is just another version of salvation story, hoping for someone else to save us and lead us into a new better world.

I agree its funny that people that make fun of christians for believing in a bearded white guy sitting on a throne, or was that santa? But any way they think that is far out but buy this crap hook line and sinker.

Humanity will never grow till we quit looking for the answers somewhere else we are the problem and also the answer.

Originally posted by Truth

a cult is basically a made up sotry without any revelation, just someone who makes true their own perception.

Not to cause a riot, but, isn't this the basis of all organized religions??????? Not one religion I know of is not part story. They all have a part story part truth.

The reason I bring this up is, as I was growing up (raised baptist) I was taught that everything other than Xianity was a cult. Mormons, Catholics, Pagans, were all members of cults. Because the only true religion was xianity.

Now as I am older, wiser and thinking for my own, I am Wiccan. By what I was raised as, I am now a cult member. However, I know that Wicca is a true religion. The only one????? Definitely now. No religion is the only one, now religion is right, no religion is wrong. (save for maybe Satanism, but that's another thread altogether)

Religion is what the practitioner makes of it. Each person has to find thier path in life.

Not to cause a riot, but, isn't this the basis of all organized religions???????

Thats my point till we stop believing in fairy tales and waiting for God, Aliens, Cassiopians etc to save us we will never advance.

Screw all of them we need to stand on our own two feet and quit looking for mommy to make it better

Originally posted by Amuk

Not to cause a riot, but, isn't this the basis of all organized religions???????

Thats my point till we stop believing in fairy tales and waiting for God, Aliens, Cassiopians etc to save us we will never advance.

Screw all of them we need to stand on our own two feet and quit looking for mommy to make it better

Good you go stand on your 2 feet and ignore the entire world. Those who try to tap into their consciousnesses and access higher knowledge through socially taboo means are in no way different than a scientist during an experiment to find out some new, breakthrough discovery. Progress is all about creativity.

Cassiopaeans NEVER make anyone feel any better, so they don't offer any better worlds, sorry. You have absolutely NO idea what is talked about on that website and what the Cassiopaeans say, so what basis do you have to pretend you do and claim they are bad or wrong or belong with other religions etc? It's like saying "I don't know how this helicopter thing works, but it sounds stupid and evil to me, I think people need to learn to walk and become athletic and run on their own 2 feet, than try to invent helicopters to fly over things they don't feel like walking across".

Too bad. Do Cassiopaeans say that they are any solution to any problem? No.
Do they offer to make our life on the planet better? NO
Do they say they are the truth? NO
Do they ask you to listen to them? NO
They simply answer those who sincerely ask for truth and knowledge. Those who do NOT ask, will NOT understand and WILL reject and laugh at those who do ask. But that is specifically their personal problem

How can you profess to have an opinion about something you have absolutely no clue about? Bring up an example of something the C's say that scares you so much!

It's like someone who has no idea bout biology, but is laughing at it and calling it stupid and that it belongs in the gutter with the rest of "stupid" ideas. Boohoo

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by lilblam]

Lilblam when you learn to stand on your own 2 feet and aquire knowledge from your own experiences in this world, then you will finaly become free.

well

I think this is a cult but I don't kno much about them. I think you can either be a religionor cult.


A religion means the truth has been revealed by prophets of God, or of that nature, and a cult is basically a made up sotry without any revelation, just someone who makes true their own perception.



Peace.

Truth, Is anything non christian dubbed " cult"?

This seems okay in defining " Cults ". The rest of the sites I looked at, were Christian Funded!

WAYS TO IDENTIFY A CULT

www.cwru.edu...

It is not abnormal for any college campus these days to have cult-like activity occurring. Some is more explicit and annoying than others. Cults tend to focus on students who appear to be lonely or lost, isolated, or questioning. It appears as though there is at least one such group on our campus this year, and perhaps more. Tell-tale signs of a cult are:

Extremely Friendly. You will find cult members abnormally friendly -- the word "gushy" comes to mind -- when they meet you and when you agree to attend their functions. If they sense you are vulnerable, alone, feeling isolated from friends or family, or questioning your religious beliefs, they will "target" you. Cult members have been carefully trained in this regard.

Persistence. Group members will persist in asking you to functions even when you say you are not interested, and they will typically "shun" or ignore you if and when you make it clear that you wish to dissociate from the group.

Time. The cult will slowly attempt to make it clear to you that you should give more and more of your time to their "cause," whether it be religious, philosophical, political, or a combination. When you ask for time to study or to meet socially with your friends outside the cult membership, you will be made to feel guilty. You may be told that your university studies are less important than the "cause" and made to feel guilty if you object.

Separation. Again, slowly, the cult will use a form of mind control to convince you that your parents and family, your friends outside the cult, your teachers and religious advisors, and -- as a matter of fact -- anyone outside the cult is seriously troubled or wrong in the way they think or believe. This is especially attractive to college-aged students who are establishing their independence. Ironically, you must believe the way the cult tells you to believe. Though certain differences may be tolerated at first as a way to "draw you in," there will come a time when you are no longer allowed to disagree. At the same time, you will have become separated from anyone outside the cult who can offer you alternative ways to think or act.

Allegiance. At some point, you will be asked to give absolute allegiance to the group and to largely, if not totally, ignore friends outside the cult, family, and other persons who differ in their beliefs from the cult.

How can you profess to have an opinion about something you have absolutely no clue about? Bring up an example of something the C's say that scares you so much!

Lilblam, You answered a question regarding " GREYS ", using cassopaeans knowledge!

Deep

And your point? I never said this is my opinion, I SAID "Cassiopaeans said:". It's a source, as good as any out there that claims to know ANYTHING about the existance and characteristics of GREYS.

How does that relate to MY opinion? Since I personally haven't met any greys nor personally have any experience with them, I gave an answer directly from an outside source!

How does that relate to MY opinion? Since I personally haven't met any greys nor personally have any experience with them, I gave an answer directly from an outside source!

You answered your own Question.

How does that relate to MY opinion?

Your Opinion....

Deep

Well go ahead finish your sentence.. You opinion... what? Am I not allowed to have an opinion?

I don't use my opinion in arguments on ATS though. I keep it to myself.

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by lilblam]

I don't use my opinion in arguments on ATS though. I keep it to myself.

So you admit it. You are selling Cassiopaeans " Opinion " on ATS, and not of your own.

Whats the point of discussing issues, when your using others opinions and not of your owns?

Deep

lilblam


Whats the matter I touch a nerve there?

How do you know I havent been to the web site? I have. Its bull# any anyone with an IQ of 70 can tell that. I guess that leaves you out though.

You say that they say not to believe them, well I dont, so whats your #ing problem?

You say to think for yourself, well I do, and I think you are full of #. I have really grown tired of your insults but what can I expect from a brainwashed fool waiting for the people from the future to raise his freaking density or what ever the hell you are talking about.

You know maybe its not just that all of us are to stupid to understand the profound message you are trying to impart on us poor 3rd density idiots maybe the problem is you forgot your meds.

I dont give a # if you are dumb enough to believe that crap so why do you have a problem with me not believing it?

You said you dont understand way you came back to give us poor idiots the message well I for one dont give a # about your message and wish you a fond journy back to where ever you came from.

The last thing this world needs is more semi religious mumbo jumbo bull#

To the rest of you I am sorry if I am a bit gruff I have two absessed teeth and am eating lorecets and am not in the mood for this. But what can you expect from a poor dumb 3rd density savage

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by Amuk]

Vibrational frequencies and dimentional rythms, time loops and death dreams of life. Ressurection and divine Judgement. And then you get to have complete knowledge of what you deserve to know everything about I guess.

And it looks like there are many eternities somehow. And incredibly many levels of Life so to speek. Death is somehow limited.

Like when you wake up to life after another which is the same just, there, and realise that the dream you just had was reality. Somewhere else, it always was a place way into the future or far back in the past, somewhere where time in a way is understood. Mastered. How is it possible to see people you have never met in a dream if it isn't real?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by Hamilton]

Originally posted by ZeroDeep

I don't use my opinion in arguments on ATS though. I keep it to myself.

So you admit it. You are selling Cassiopaeans " Opinion " on ATS, and not of your own.

Whats the point of discussing issues, when your using others opinions and not of your owns?

Deep

How can I have an opinion about something I don't know? So many people say dumb things like "I think the grays can be trusted" or "they cannot be trusted" but what do they really know about the subject? Anyone can guess...

Originally posted by Amuk
lilblam


Whats the matter I touch a nerve there?

What are you on about this time?

How do you know I havent been to the web site? I have. Its bull# any anyone with an IQ of 70 can tell that. I guess that leaves you out though.

Talking out your azz again are ya? My IQ is 135. But you're right, anyone with IQ in the vicinity of 70 will think the way you do about this website, and many other things.

You say that they say not to believe them, well I dont, so whats your #ing problem?

Oooh someone's upset! What brought this immature rage on?

You say to think for yourself, well I do, and I think you are full of #. I have really grown tired of your insults but what can I expect from a brainwashed fool waiting for the people from the future to raise his freaking density or what ever the hell you are talking about.

Insults? You're the only one insulting anyone around here buddy Every other word...
I love how you have absolutely no clue what the website is about, make up some lies about what you think it says, and then claim "oooh I been there too! it sux0rz!". You are indeed an interesting, but sadly common phenomenon on this planet. Psychopathic tendencies though, as you blame me for all the things you yourself KNOW you are guilty of. It's written all over every sentence you utter

You know maybe its not just that all of us are to stupid to understand the profound message you are trying to impart on us poor 3rd density idiots maybe the problem is you forgot your meds.

Once again, you assume I called anyone stupid. And you go on about more drivel, just to let the rage outta your system. Keep going, don't let me stop you.

I dont give a # if you are dumb enough to believe that crap so why do you have a problem with me not believing it?

But you just said we both agreed that you shouldn't believe it. So now you contradict BOTH of us and say I have a problem with it? You're the one who seems to have a "problem" here, as you just won't stop flaming and going on and on about how "stupid" "retarded" "dumb" "overmedicated" I am. How old are you anyway?

You said you dont understand way you came back to give us poor idiots the message well I for one dont give a # about your message and wish you a fond journy back to where ever you came from.

Putting words in my mouth buddy. You're doing great with the bullsh1t so far, keep going. And thanks for the well wishes

The last thing this world needs is more semi religious mumbo jumbo bull#

Yes, YOU make a lovely addition to this world! Please define semi-religious mumbo jumbo bullsh1t while your face is still red, so maybe someone can get a clue as to what you're trying to express with this message...

To the rest of you I am sorry if I am a bit gruff I have two absessed teeth and am eating lorecets and am not in the mood for this. But what can you expect from a poor dumb 3rd density savage

Indeed.. as if anyone expected anything else from you.


[Edited on 10-2-2004 by Amuk]

All this arguing yet nobody has given me an explanation about 2nd densities not being able to see 3rd densities?

It is obviously a flaw in the multi density argument is it not?

just asking for an answer?

Originally posted by Hamilton
Vibrational frequencies and dimentional rythms, time loops and death dreams of life. Ressurection and divine Judgement. And then you get to have complete knowledge of what you deserve to know everything about I guess.

And it looks like there are many eternities somehow. And incredibly many levels of Life so to speek. Death is somehow limited.

Like when you wake up to life after another which is the same just, there, and realise that the dream you just had was reality. Somewhere else, it always was a place way into the future or far back in the past, somewhere where time in a way is understood. Mastered. How is it possible to see people you have never met in a dream if it isn't real?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by Hamilton]

What did you just say?

Originally posted by outofdarkness
All this arguing yet nobody has given me an explanation about 2nd densities not being able to see 3rd densities?

It is obviously a flaw in the multi density argument is it not?

just asking for an answer?

Who told you that? 2nd density is your dog. Can your dog NOT see you? Who came up with something silly like that?