Was 9/11 an Israeli Job?

I think all of this fingerpointing is exactly what the real perpetrators planned for. The clear picture that emerges when you take a step back is this: The NWO is now in place and using every and any country it wishes to carry out its clandestine operations to further degrade human rights, redirect resources, and generally enslave all of mankind.

I dont like to indulge myself in 9-11 conspiracies because the events that took,place that day were the ones that make decide to join the military. So to me this conspiracies knowing what I know now, I mean it makes me look like a fool for the choice I made, not that I regret it though.

Anyways on topic, to me it will be very plausible for Israel to had either a direct or inderect hand on 9-11, it would not surprise me one bit. They would had think at the time that they will had much to gain if the attack happen IMO.

reply to post by Insolubrious


With all due respect, we have no idea how much of what filters out from the US bureacrats is true vs what is not. Provided the strong valid evidence implicating the Bush administration involvement is true, they have every reason to do cover-up and promote confusion of US citizens fighting among themselves.

US citizens have every legitimate reason to stop fighting among themselves, in order to thoroughly investigate the truth. It is the ultimate purpose of perpetrators - divide and conquer. Perhaps, some are too young to have lived through the McCarthy era, and only read about it. I lived through it, and well remember the Nazi overtones in those days in the USA. It was felt in every ordinary citizen home throughout the USA.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." Abraham Lincoln

A serious study of how Hitler came to power is mandatory. This has been history repeating itself since Hitler was taken out of power. Only this time, it is the USA coming under division of US citizens. George Orwell warned against it happening again elsewhere in 1948, in his book 1984.

Originally posted by JustMe74
Highly unlikely. The Iraq war has not benefited Israel... The result of all of our meddling in the Middle East has been strengthening Iran, much to the consternation of BOTH Israel and the Sunni Arab countries.

[edit on 12/31/2007 by JustMe74]

But they wouldnt had thought about that at the time, at the time that 9-11 happen Israel was in the middle on a violent intifada and I imagine they would be asking or needy for help anyway they could.

That intifada I remember came down to a halt AFTER 9-11, because at that time all muslims terror orgs like Hamas, Hezbollah and countries like Iran, Lybia, Saudi Arabia and others were just praying that no one commited those attacks in the name of their organization or country knowing very well what the consequences were going to be.

Heck I remember Saddam Hussien issuing a statement of condolences and saying he didint had nothing to do with it, just like 3 or 4 hours after the attack!

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reply to post by Bunch


No one is a fool for joining the military. Military experience itself is the reward. The politics of war is irrelevant to the soldier.

But don't let this blind you of your civic duties when not in uniform. You have the right to be a well informed citizen as well.

reply to post by xpert11


Then again, it is much easier to know in advance when one is involved in the planning.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by Bunch

 

No one is a fool for joining the military. Military experience itself is the reward. The politics of war is irrelevant to the soldier.

But don't let this blind you of your civic duties when not in uniform. You have the right to be a well informed citizen as well.

Thanks for the comment, thats the only thing I keep sying myself, the experience itself I wouldnt change it for nothing.

reply to post by gottago


I am 99.9% certain that along with the suspension of the laws and principles of science on 9/11, the rules of criminal and constitutuional law were also suspended on 9/11. The evidence of this is self-evident in all US bureaucrat "official" reports compared to physical reality.

reply to post by gottago


According to BBC, when they investigated and found 7 falsely accused "hijackers", when Atta's father was first interviewed about his son, he told them to check with Mossad. There was no other accounting of why he said it from that interview. Possibly he said that and simply hung up?

Let's go back to the late 90's

I'm Israel and I'm dealing with the biggest upraising of violence inside the Israel territory, I mean they getting blasted on a daily basis by Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, Fatah and Hamas, there is no telling when this violence is going to end. They can't go in and attack the West Bank and Gaza in a all out war because the US and other countries are asking you to show some restraint. Israel at this point is desperate.

The MOSSAD one of the best intelligence gathering agencies in the world that works from right there where everything happens stumble upon intelligence that the biggest terrorist attack in US soil is impending. They know what the consequences are, US is going to retaliate, against Islamic terrorist and their supporters.

Who are the biggest financial supporters of the Palestinian terrorist orgs? Iran, Irak, Syria and Saudi.

Israel knows if they sit on the information they going to have US support to deal with their situation as Israel see fits and on top of that, they know that the US would take care of Irak and Iran, because that was the original plan, regime change in Irak and Iran, until all went to hell in Irak.

IMO Israel had a lot to gain by 911.

Israel definately had a LOT to gain from 9/11, more so than the neo-cons and oil companies and what-not.

All my instincts tell me, this was not the muslims, this was a different party.
I really wouldn't put it past the Israeli's....

reply to post by Bunch


What about Lehi, Irgun and the Stern Gang Zionist ideologues? The same people collaborating with Hitler during WWII, including in what was then an intact Palestine.

The Stern Gang members became the immoral gerrymandered Palestine Zionist politicians, including Sharon and those Zionists following in other Stern Gang members' and his political footsteps.

Zionists have maintained all the control in Israel from the day it was immorally gerrymandered, by so-called free first world nations. The Zionists receive billions in US taxpayer money each year, plus, highly sophisticated technology war machines and the technology, including secret DOD and Pentagon project tech, to build their own war machine.

USS Liberty is indeed a highly revealing historical study as to how the Zionists repay the US taxpayers with blood and terrorism against US taxpayers.

The Stern Gang never ceased to exist. They simply changed the name to the Zionist political party name, Likud.

reply to post by mr-lizard


I was serious when I stated that many times there no way to tell the difference in the Semitic ethnicity of Jews and Arabs. Not until they state their name.

Originally posted by gottago
Under the law this would make Mossad an accessory to the crime and just as criminally liable as the actual perpetrators. Simple as that.

Interesting point the only thing I can do is to give my take on the situation . Assuming that the Mossad had some inkling of 9-11 and didn't warn the CIA there are two possibility's in my mind. The first is that the Mossad were unable to put the pieces of the puzzle together because there my concern is domestic security .

The second possibility is that the Mossad has or had an asset that is highly placed inside Al Qaeda which would mean that the man on the inside was to valuable to lose in the process of preventing 9-11.

Either I am sure that we will see more Pearl Harbour style conspiracy and the just how much the Mossad knew about 9-11 wont be revealed in my life time.

Well that is my opinion there isnt anything else I can add to this thread at this stage.

reply to post by Bunch


I see it this way. If the Zionists had not brutally slaughtered, in order to take what was not theirs to take, the Palestinian groups would have had no reason to rise up to reclaim what was rightfully theirs, prior to immoral gerrymander by the US and Britain.

Imagine how you would feel if another country suddenly invaded the US, and other first world countries said it was legally OK by them. Would you merely accept it? I certainly would not. Regardless, of the black propaganda Zionists put out, Semitic Jews and Arabs lived in high relative peace, in intact Palestine, prior to Zionist terrorism and immoral gerrymander. The Palestinians and anti-Zionist Jews were sold out by the US and Britain in highly immoral fashion.

If anti-Semitism had not been so ingrained for centuries, particularly in Europe, in a vast majority of the historical populations, Zionism may never have had a chance to get a solid foothold at all.

There is so much more history to analyze, before taking out of historical context the 1990s. Zionist ideology is actually a fringe right wing extremist ideology, exactly the same as Nazism was. The vast, majority of people, normally chose to be mainstream centrists, unless propagandized/indoctrinated with some form of bigotry or another, from the day they are born.

reply to post by OrionStars


Look, I'm just responding to the topic of the thread, not trying to make this a history lesson, could Israel be behind 911 directly or indirectly, is possible IMO.

What lead to the state of affairs in the middle east for the last 50 years is something tha could be debated elsewhere, and I'm not choosing to ignore what you are pointing as I'm well aware of the history in this region, and just don't think that this thread is the right venue to discuss ME affairs that are not directly related to what the subject of the thread is.

Originally posted by xpert11
Assuming that the Mossad had some inkling of 9-11 and didn't warn the CIA there are two possibility's in my mind. The first is that the Mossad were unable to put the pieces of the puzzle together because there my concern is domestic security .

The second possibility is that the Mossad has or had an asset that is highly placed inside Al Qaeda which would mean that the man on the inside was to valuable to lose in the process of preventing 9-11.

In the first scenario, you would expect co-operation and info-sharing with our intelligence agencies at a minimum to prevent an attack; Israel receives a staggering amount of US aid of all sorts and are supposed to be a close ally, you'd like to see a minimum of recognition of that.

In the second, the first points hold true, but also you have to wonder just how could the safety of this one hypothetical asset be more valuable than forestalling an unprecedented terrorist attack like 9/11? What could be worse, short of a major nuke, which they knew they didn't have?

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reply to post by Bunch


I have learned the best responses come from those versed in topics of discussion. For instance, the subject of this discussion is potential Israeli involvement by those embracing Zionist ideology. In the case of the Zionists, serious historical study is most assuredly in order for better understanding of this topic.

Unless Zionists have something to gain, why would they be involved or thought to be involved? There are many factors which self-evidently say they definitely were directly and indirectly involved in 9/11. To fully understand why, that requires having done serious historical study on both Zionism and Zionists' political relationship in the international community.

Plus, study, of their financial power through banking and investments,is also in order. The Rothschild family is excellent place to start study in Zionist involvement through banking and finance.

I have a personal stake in this topic. I firmly resent Zionists giving all Jews a bad name we do not deserve. Because all that does is build up anti-Semitism feeling against all Jews, not just Zionist ideologues.

Originally posted by Bunch
Let's go back to the late 90's

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Who are the biggest financial supporters of the Palestinian terrorist orgs? Iran, Irak, Syria and Saudi.

Israel knows if they sit on the information they going to have US support to deal with their situation as Israel see fits and on top of that, they know that the US would take care of Irak and Iran, because that was the original plan, regime change in Irak and Iran, until all went to hell in Irak.

IMO Israel had a lot to gain by 911.

Good post Bunch,

And if you want to know where the Neocon agenda for regime change in Iraq, Iran, and Syria came from, you need look no further than the clique in the Neocon cabal that had produced exactly this strategy for Netanyahu--the Wurmsers, Feith, Perle, etc.--the same people who turn up a bit later writing the strategy for PNAC, and who end up in top US strategic/defense policy-making positions.

reply to post by gottago


All three of the names you list are US based Zionists operating or having operated in high levels of our federal bureaucracy. They are very close, in business and personally, to the Bush administration.