Nibiru's 'First Phase' Due Fall 2009!

Curiosity got the better of me, and being rather weak on space science I went back to the Mastermason site and reread what was there. They were very careful to relate that the information on niberu was from ancient texts and went out of their way to avoid tagging it with bad 'science'.

Then I thought to follow the links.

www.skyandtelescope.com...

Just doesn't seem to be anything out there. I figured the folks that sell telescopes would be the first on the bandwagon and found a nice picture about half way down the page with the outer planets and pseudo planets.

I probably won't read any more niberu threads, unless there are some hard links from the scientific community.

xnibirux - my challenge to you and other Planet X believers is still open. But the lack or response suggests you don't have any faith in your own convictions, unlike those (thanks guys ) who have, shall we say, doubts about Planet X .... If it helps, you can wear your underpants ......

C'mon,

Just reviewed a few of the last several posts. Really, when an ATS member decides to put something out as an OP of a thread, least we can do is be courteous, and refrain from snide remarks.

Just my opinion...something I've come to learn as I have surfed around the ATS threads...

Perhaps I've misconstrued, and if so, apologies.

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and when you followed the links, you find that 2003 UB313, now known as Eris, has a stable orbit and never comes near earth. I have seen several people here claim that planet Eris is planet x. Oops !!! Their bad !!!

The current distance from the Sun is 96.7 AU, roughly three times that of Pluto. It's orbital period is 203,600 days (557 years)
It's average orbital speed is 3.436 km/s

Planet Eris' orbit is not 3600 as some planet x'ers claim.

Good job following up with the links to find the truth

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Wow....

Great find, jfj123!!

Never heard of Eris...and I thought I've heard of everything, by now...
(tongue firmly in cheek...)

Second edit, jfj123...what are the mass, composition (well, that would be obvious except, what has mass spectroscopy revealed?) etc of Eris?

Thanks


[just to capitalize 'Eris]


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Here are a few links regarding the dwarf planet.

If you scan down to the heading NICKNAMES and read a bit, you'll probably see where the planet x'ers got their idea that Eris was planet x. From reading but not understanding
en.wikipedia.org...

Here's another link:
www.gps.caltech.edu...

Hopefully this is helpful

'Eris' is just the name put out there on the internet to confuse and perhaps change the beliefs of those who may have believed in Planet X, duh.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
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xnibirux,

I understand your passionate belief in this, but can you not see the inconsistencies in the 'story'. No disrespect intended here, I just looked at the YouTube link...one thing that popped out at me was a contention that 'Nibiru' was "behind the Sun, and will be 'revealed' at the end of 2009"...

Do you see my confusion here? Others have contended 'Nibiru' to be on a very eccentric, 3600 year orbit, well off the plane of the Solar System. This would have to be the case to explain why the incursion of this massive body hasn't severly disrupted the planet's orbits. BUT, if this body has been approaching for the last 1800 years (after last apogee) then it would certainly have become visible as it reflected our Sun's light.

So, either it happens to be 'behind' the Sun, even though our Earth's orbit has a radius large enough to have 'seen' this approaching interloper, or it is a 'captured' brown dwarf on a very eccentric off-plane orbit (just as some comets, but of course, Nibiru is far more massive than any comet)...

Sorry, the facts of observed orbitral mechanics just do not fit with the scenario of a 'rogue' destructive mega planet. Especially when others claim that it is inhabited!!! What kind of society on this alleged planet would not have built sufficient technology by now...(3600 year orbits, three orbits alone is longer than from OUR Stone Age to today...).

Rational thinking must be used here. A belief is a belief. In fact, a belief can be stated as an hypothesis, if you will. But with a preponderance of contradictory evidence, a hypothesis must be, if not thrown out, at least revised to conform to the newly discovered evidence. N'est pas?

I favor knowledge over guesses...that's all.

Thanks for starting this thread...it has brought a lot to the debate. I've given my bit, I tried not to appear condescending, I hope I will be favored with the same courtesy.

Best...

That is correct, Nibiru is located behind the sun and now creates reflections called 'Sun Dogs' that have been seen from southern sections of the earth.

To explain life existing on Nibiru. Highly intelligent beings have been located on ancient cylinder seals from many cultures including the Sumerians(the oldest civilization recorded in human history). These Sumerians claim to be visited by these beings and were greatly benefitted by them.(which is quite possibly the reason that their civilization and the Mayan's civilization many years after were so advanced. These beings are called the Annunaki and are our overlords who look over us after thousands of years, and I believe that our genetics were tinkered by these beings many many years ago; many of us would never know this, considering we were all born and raised the same way(television,school,get money,television,work,get money,retire,get money,television),other than those who do not have these opportunities. It is all a system if you aren't too blind to see it. A perfect circle of dishonesty. Born and raised in a manifesting world of plastic.

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Originally posted by xnibirux
'Eris' is just the name put out there on the internet to confuse and perhaps change the beliefs of those who may have believed in Planet X, duh.

What about Quoar, Sedna, Orcus, Varuna and the so far unnamed 2005FY9 and 2003EL61 - to name just some of the larger objects known to orbit beyond Neptune?

Originally posted by xnibirux

That is correct, Nibiru is located behind the sun and now creates reflections called 'Sun Dogs' that have been seen from southern sections of the earth.

Sundogs are seen all over the planet and have been for thousands of years.

And how would any object close to the Sun only be visible in the Southern Hemisphere?

The guy on this video i just watched presents probably the most rational arguement for the existence of Nibiru, without resorting to baseless speculation to much. The video can be found here: www.xfacts.com...

Hey man I have just joined this site and love your argument, BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE RIGHT? If you are telling me it is real then show me the proof, if I am telling you it is not real you would ask me the same question, right?

Along with all the ancient cultures (eg. Sumerian, Maya) that have it notated, NASA supposedly finding it in 1983 and then denying it and some other facts such as the giant 36 foot skeleton they found in Saudi Arabia and many others that may possibly relate to this mystery planet can you say 100% that it is not real?

I believe it will be visible by some powerful telescopes later this year(08) and that all humanity will be able to see it by the naked eye starting sometime in May 2009. That is just my personal view. I am not going to say it isn't real as I feel there is more evidence that it is real, that has been covered up or just not found before these modern times. I still have some doubt in my mind that it is real but I am more heavily steered in the other direction at the moment. If no one is covering it in more detail by late this year I will develop serious doubt in my mind and if I have not personally seen anything by May of 2009 I will know it was a hoax.

Feel free to email me so I can send you all the facts or videos. [email protected]

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by xnibirux
'Eris' is just the name put out there on the internet to confuse and perhaps change the beliefs of those who may have believed in Planet X, duh.

What about Quoar, Sedna, Orcus, Varuna and the so far unnamed 2005FY9 and 2003EL61 - to name just some of the larger objects known to orbit beyond Neptune?

Those celestial bodies are planets that have just recently been discovered and kept secret to most of the public. Nibiru would be the Brown Dwarf that they have kept secret.

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Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by xnibirux

That is correct, Nibiru is located behind the sun and now creates reflections called 'Sun Dogs' that have been seen from southern sections of the earth.

Sundogs are seen all over the planet and have been for thousands of years.

And how would any object close to the Sun only be visible in the Southern Hemisphere?

I never said the Brown Dwarf was 'close' to the sun, I said it was behind the sun. Not right behind the sun. Nibiru already has an effect on all planets, read all here (like I said in an earlier post, Nibiru's orbital speed has intensified because of the gravitational pull of the planets it has already affected.

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Hey Nibiru guy, do you believe that Planet X is a brown dwarf star slightly smaller than Jupiter that passes by the Earth every 3600 years and was last written about by the Sumerians?

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
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Hey Nibiru guy, do you believe that Planet X is a brown dwarf star slightly smaller than Jupiter that passes by the Earth every 3600 years and was last written about by the Sumerians?

I believe Planet X is a Brown Dwarf a third the size of our Sun that passes Earth every 3600 years; the Sumerians were the first civilization to have written about this celestial body within their stone tablets and cylinder seals.

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And do you know what era the Sumerians lived in?

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
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And do you know what era the Sumerians lived in?

The Mesopotamian Bronze Age.

Good try, but I think you know I meant the date. I'll tell you anyway so we can stop playing games, Sumeria lasted from roughly 3500 BC to 1800 BC. That's 3800 - 5500 years ago. Planet X seems to be a little overdue, no?

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Good try, but I think you know I meant the date. I'll tell you anyway so we can stop playing games, Sumeria lasted from roughly 3500 BC to 1800 BC. That's 3800 - 5500 years ago. Planet X seems to be a little overdue, no?

Incorrect.