Nostradamus' 3rd Anti Christ looming on the horizon..

a reply to: runetang

A couple things here. You can read almost anything you want to into Nostradamus's predictions, they are very very and terribly vague and as such can literally mean almost anything you want them to mean.

so I would like to see the actual words of Nostradamus in relation to this supposed prophecy.. I just want to read what he actually said..

can you find that for me please?

a reply to: OpinionatedB

With regard to the Blue Turban there are two references that I am aware of -

Century 2 - Quatrain 2

The blue head will inflict upon the white head
As much evil as France has done them good:
Dead at the sail-yard the great one hung on the branch.
When seized by his own the King will say how much.


Century IX - Quatrain 72

The Blue Turban King entered into Foix,
And he will reign less than an evolution of Saturn:
The White Turban King Byzantium heart banished,
Sun, Mars and Mercury near Aquarius.


No mention of Greater Arabia or any of the other things that are claimed but hey - I mean, who's going to check right?

a reply to: ComplexCassandra

ohhhhhhhhh

that is... ha.. wow

thank you for finding that...

originally posted by: jimbo999
reply to post by NeverWalkAlone

 

All the 'prophets' ever did was no different than what Nostrodamus and others of his ilk did. Just because they claimed 'God' talked to them - well, sorry, there are institutions for people like that today. Many mass murderes also claim 'God' told them to do it...

My understanding iss that most of Nostrodamus's 'predictions' have been proven false again & again in relation to modern history. Just like the 'Revelations' in the Bible, they are all about the historical period they were written in - and have zero to do with modern history.

All this superstition can make one blind to the realities of the world. Forget 'prophesies' and 'predictions' as they are all nonsense. Ths is the 21st century folks...

J.

Uh oh. Now here we are, Europe has been invaded by a muslim terrorist group and we're right on the verge of joining alliances with Russia to fight in what could be WWIII, with the same forces Nostradamus claimed, 450 years ago.

originally posted by: Ridhya
I dont know where you read about the whole Mohammed/Blue turban/Arabia quatrain but I've never heard of that in my life and I have 3 books on Nostradamus. He does however say that the Third will be European (I have heard Northern european often) and that he will lead the coalition of nations. NOWHERE has it said he would be Muslim.

Based on your xenophobic bigoted racist posts Im going to chock it up to disinformation on your part. The lot of you. I dont get whats with all your anti-Muslim hate speech. Wait, you dont do that? What about

A little overbearing dont you think? Muslims are no more warlike than anyone else and no more peaceful than anyone else. To group them all like you did is folly.

Now all of a sudden Islam isnt valid and all Muslims worship Satan? Are you kidding me? You have the same mentality as the people who started the Inquisition. They're different so they must be devil worshippers. They're beneath us!

Yeah, because that doesnt describe you at all

You're indoctrinated into thinking all Muslims are war-mongering evil devil-worshippers and that only your god, ahem, the "true" god is Holy. You gotta be kidding me! Take a look in the mirror before you speak.

And why is it when, for example, the Jews say Christianity is blasphemous worshipping Jesus Christ you're all up in arms, but then go on to slander another group in the exact same way, thinking you're better than them?

People like aleon, DenyAll Knowledge and The Walking Fox are in the right direction. Just take it as it comes. You're causing things to happen by inciting hatred against other groups. Seriously. And if you're going to make presumptions shove your personal prejudices aside already.

The first two anti-christs had some ridiculous parallels, theres no reason to say the third wont. Check out their birthdays (check how I know this), military careers, ranks, rulership, woundings, 'signs of divinity' as Hitler put it... they are remarkable. Try to throw something not biased in there willya.

The muslim invasion was mentioned 450 years ago. Now it has come true.

originally posted by: Ridhya
reply to post by Tentickles

 

Well you see Im a little frustrated from this.

I havent read ANYWHERE from all my readings of Nostradamus that the Third antichrist would be a Muslim. So as far as Im concerned this is just to inflame hatred.

Second, if he just said "the next will probably be Muslim" yes that is his opinion, but later (read the comments) he and others go to compare Islam to Satanism and bull# like that... its only purpose is to rally people against them, far as I see it. People need unity, not separation, as they would have it.

Third its rhetoric like this that causes people to self-fulfill prophecies. Like Joel's Army and scary things like that. Hate speech that leads to paranoia and pre-emptive strikes.

I feel like the only person defending Muslims and Im not even one.

How do you feel 6 years later?

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: runetang

A couple things here. You can read almost anything you want to into Nostradamus's predictions, they are very very and terribly vague and as such can literally mean almost anything you want them to mean.

so I would like to see the actual words of Nostradamus in relation to this supposed prophecy.. I just want to read what he actually said..

can you find that for me please?

I'll do you one better... Here is a documentary from 1979. 36 years ago, experts that read into all of this thought that muslims would invade Europe, the US and Russia would join forces, and together would defeat the muslims that had created World War III. After all of this, God the creator will lock Satan at the bottom of the deep and a new golden age of international peace would begin. If the video doesn't start at 1:20, you can move to it to get the things that hadn't happened prior to 1979. 1:24 is when they start talking about WWIII.

a reply to: runetang

Why do you think that Anti-Christ is a person? This is a war of powers and principalities. The world is Anti-Christ. The Day is certainly drawing near.

I don't think it is any one peticuallar person either, something tells me that it would be hard to see the big picture because we only have two eyes right???... ?,, and also that whoever "They" are, would have some sort of physical attribute to this vision as predicted?

The Third Anti Christ is Islam. When Christianity teaches compassion, love, forgiveness, repentance, truth and virtue but Islam preaches nothing more than hate, violence, rape, beheading, lies and filth it doesn't take Einstein to work out who the evil ones are.

I have fallen into another rabbit hole. Reading the Quatrains and stumbled on
Q.VIII v.20
The false message about the rigged election
to run through the city stopping the broken pact;
voices bought, chapel stained with blood,
the empire contracted to another one.

Egad! How eerily familiar this one reads! Don't you think? I mean seriously, I don't think all of these quatrains are referring to the Antichrist, but towards signs of the end times.

Edit add: Honestly, when I read this I realized even if it meant this election cycle of the US...it really doesn't help anyone in determining anything except...if you believe in prophecy, it really does cover all the bases. Though, if so...any ideas on which empire we are contracted to? We have many contracts (trade agreements) now. Sigh.

a reply to: CynConcepts

Good stuff there, the last line is about the US and Israel.

a reply to: runetang

The Nostradamus predictions hold some truth and misses. However, the Blue turban could be easily mistaken for a U.N helmet as some have stated, mainly due to the fact that no one knew what a helmet is during that time period.

Yet, If the AntiChrist was to rise out of the U.N it would be a pretense that soon the U.N will become a powerful military force and a singularly controlled entity. However, this would take years and the AntiChrist was meant to be like Christ, knowing stories and theoretical ideas is that Christ only became Christ when he turned 30.

So, Does that not imply that the AntiChrist will only be the AntiChrist when he turns 30?

The way things have been escalating since the 1990's Afghanistan/Soviet war and creation of the future Taliban + Al Qaeda.
My theory is that those bloody masses and a few others prior were the pretense of him being birthed into our world, I could be wrong though. If in a slight chance that he was the most prominent place would be Europe, Russia or Asia and as he grew we saw more wars, destruction and split among our society.

What would be more to note is that in order for the AntiChrist to be born he needs to be of special blood, when it comes to cultural sacrifices, religious sacrifices etc; Blood is always driven as a conduit of the soul or a summoning, there are a handful of families in Europe, Russia and Asia alone who could be up to the task.

Even though, from all the lists I believe it would have been of a Russian Royal Blood, many prophets such as Vangha, Fatima etc; All pointed towards Europe as the region where the beast would rise. So, I guess a Romanov?

Now theoretically speaking if indeed this child was born in the 1990's it would put him in his early 20's off the top of my head I would estimate 20-26. Further more, the child would have to have qualities fitting the role, now no member of the public would just blindly follow a spoiled brat with a rich mother or father?

Thus far, we are faced with a single theory that he would rise as a humble civilian, from a poor or middle class family, preaching peace, religious unity and class equality.

However, this is only just a theory with a lot of loop holes and other unforeseen equations which might influence the rise of this being. Which at times we don't know if it is even real.

Nostradamus never mentioned three anti-christs in any of his quatrains, first of all.

Napoleon and Hitler were spoken about, for sure. But not as any sort of anti-christ figures, simply as tyrants.

Mabus is not an anti-christ, either. .

originally posted by: turbonium1
Nostradamus

Mabus is not an anti-christ, either. .

the Rothschild System was born from the mind/spirit of MAB which identifies Mayer Ansel Bauer (AKA=Rothschild after a name change)

www.abikoyeolufemi.com...

the MAB-US...'US' ending has to do with the Nostradamus talent for giving hidden clues as to just whom is meant...
in the Case of MABUS it is the person Mayer Ansel Bauer & the leadership Global Central Bank of NYC in the U.S. thus illuminating the seekers of the 3rd AC System that to look no further than the Rothschild-USA central bank system

which demeans humans into just debt and monetary units with no spiritual value what-so-ever

a reply to: St Udio

Udio- A blast from the past.. Nailed it.

originally posted by: St Udio

originally posted by: turbonium1
Nostradamus

Mabus is not an anti-christ, either. .

the Rothschild System was born from the mind/spirit of MAB which identifies Mayer Ansel Bauer (AKA=Rothschild after a name change)

www.abikoyeolufemi.com...

the MAB-US...'US' ending has to do with the Nostradamus talent for giving hidden clues as to just whom is meant...
in the Case of MABUS it is the person Mayer Ansel Bauer & the leadership Global Central Bank of NYC in the U.S. thus illuminating the seekers of the 3rd AC System that to look no further than the Rothschild-USA central bank system

which demeans humans into just debt and monetary units with no spiritual value what-so-ever

While I agree with you about the Rothschild banking cabal, the MABUS quatrain doesn't work for Rothschild, or the banking system...

MABUS will die, according to the quatrain. Afterwards, there will be a dreaded destruction of people and animals.
The destruction is caused by those seeking vengeance, presumably against those responsible for the death of MABUS.

It doesn't make sense that people will seek revenge for the death of a banking system.

Mayer Rothschild also died long ago, and nothing happened in response to his death.

I think MABUS is a real figure, who has yet to arrive on the scene.

And again, there is nothing in the quatrains that suggests Napoleon and Hitler are anti-christs, nor that there will be three anti-christs.

People just assume that Nostradamus meant Napoleon and Hitler as the first two anti-christs, and that MABUS is the third.

If you read the quatrains, you'll find nothing supports this interpretation.

Don't take the word of so-called 'experts' as if it's an undisputed fact, because it's usually the opposite..

This is a good example.

A review of the Mabus quatrain...

Mabus will then soon die and there will come
a dreadful destruction of people and animals.
Then suddenly vengeance is revealed,
One hundred, hand, thirst, hunger, when the comet will run.

C. 2, Q.62


Notice that the last line is different than commonly shown -

"Cent, main, soif, faim..." is "One hundred, hand, thirst, hunger..." It is not "a hundred hands", as most of the so-called 'experts' have interpreted it.

As well, the correct translation is "...the comet will run". Not "the comet will pass"

"courra" means "will run". "will pass", en francais, is "passera".

Nostradamus knew actual comets 'pass', so if he meant it was an actual comet, he'd have indicated so, with the correct term, which is 'passera'.

So he is describing something that appears like a comet, in the sky, but is NOT actually a comet. Comets do not "run".
Something that 'runs' is an engine, or a machine, or a rocket. However, a missile, or a bomb, are not "run", so they don't fit here.

He is describing a man-made 'comet', which "will run" at that time. It has yet to be known what this "comet" will be, however.


Now, to the first line -

"Mabus will then soon die"

Mabus is not an anti-christ, of course. He dies before anything horrible happens, that should be an obvious clue, to the so-called 'experts' who call him an anti-christ.

The death of Mabus is the trigger which leads others to cause a dreadful destruction of people and animals.

"Suddenly vengeance revealed..."

Which means it is an act of vengeance, obviously, in response to the death of Mabus.

A war does not have "vengeance revealed", after the fact. So this will be done in a single act of destruction. It is done by surprise, and when it is done, it will be revealed as an act of vengeance.

So now, let's take another look at the last line...

"...when the comet will run"...

The "comet" is what causes this dreadful destruction of people and animals. "When the comet will run"


"One hundred, hand, thirst, hunger...." is still puzzling me, but it's obviously significant, and figuring it out would certainly help in deciphering the passage.


Final note -

"Mabus will then soon die" is an indication that this quatrain takes up where another quatrain ended. This quatrain has yet to be identified, but hopefully it will be.

a reply to: turbonium1

It doesn't make sense that people will seek revenge for the death of a banking system.

the 'banking system' is much more than just an money transfer operation...
the MABUS banking system allows for creating money out-of-thin-air...& much more than the allowable 10%...
the synthetic Derivatives & other phony paper are also counterfeit money out-of-thin air


the MABUS banker system owns Trillions in repossessed mortgages... they Own the money you deposit into a bank account, the System can freeze the SWIFT CODE and cease giving you currency & digital credits for any savings & checking accounts
by freezing the ATMs...or not allowing over-night inter-bank loans to be transacted bringing the money side of the economy to a standstill


the banker guild fought & schemed deeply to achieve the God-Like status it has over every aspect of the modern world & trade... the combined "fractional-reserve banking" and the established hierarchy of the 'Central Bank' system are the prongs of the Trident which holds the power of life or death to whom-so-ever the elite bankers wish to approve or destroy


money, fiat money... is the Symbol or mark-of-the-beast which has sway over every single individual on the planet

the brick & mortar banks, the futures of all commodities metals/grains/energy/forex/ even volatility are the abstract 'markets' which provide the path for greed to grow into an all consuming beast which consumes the Souls of the Traders and their unborn children in the course of 'managing their socks or futures accounts'


MABUS = Rothschild (nee Bauer)... lives on by feasting on the spiritual souls of the total world...

why else would the MABUS-BANKERS develop war & conquer the handful of Banks in the World that are not members of the Central Banker System/Hierarchy (let's see NK, Iran, Syria, Libya, etc. etc.)