Explosion heard at Bhutto rally (Bhutto Killed)

reply to post by Digital_Reality


Exactly as sad as it sounds they need a dictator to keep them inline...We seen this before look at Iraq now...And if we go into Iran and take out the guy there it will happen there aswell...If Mushariff is killed this country will go to crap real quick...Its a sad thing but the radical islamists beliefs are harsh and I honestly do not think they value life in any way......The moderates are the minority over in the M.E unfortunately...

Originally posted by Bunch
reply to post by St Udio

 

I dont think that suicide attacks are only commited by Islamic terrorist, a suicide attack is and has been used as a tool for murder around the world.

true... i'm familiar with the Palestinians that attack public places in Israel,
those are not 'Islamic' terrorists.

on the other hand, a person affilliated with the Pakistani army or institutionalized politic in Pakistan would merely do the assassination act
and expect a trial and sentence. A suicide mission along with taking-out
bystanders is not in the regular 'Agents' repitore....

how many CIA or 007 agents kill themselves at the completion of their assignment? No, the suicide bomb routine is more or less a trademark of the zealot ideologies, radical fundamentalists included.

If he wasn't involved in this situation (unless he ordered his men), then would you think that Musharraff is probably thinking, "Idiots. They should've left her alone in order to keep me in power"? Would that be right?

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reply to post by Xtrozero


I agree, but when I say that many things could be at work here this is what I mean, when have you heard of a suicide bomber draw a rifle or gun? And we all the stuff that goes around those countries, it could have been a murder for hire, or a murder for ransom for all I know.

I have heard of suicide attackers stories that they where kidnap and told them if they dont comit the attack their family could be murder and stuff like that, maybe Im wrong but giving all the actions that Musharraf have taken of late the benefit of the doubt is something i wont give him.

Some more tidbits from watching FNC.


Bhutto's people are blaming Musharraf from initial reports from the region.

Another analyst was saying that Musharraf's people would blame Sharif's people and vice versa, I had forgotten that Sharif had returned to Pakistan as well. That adds another angle to this assasination.

All commentators are worried aobut the possible uprisings in the country.

Some are even saying this will affect the elections in the US, with the primaries beginning next week.


Statements from McCain and Huckabee do not blame anyone, unlike the rant Romney made earlier on camera.

ed:add comment on McCain & Huckabee

[edit on 12/27/2007 by JacKatMtn]

www.cnn.com...
"The attack came just hours after four supporters of former Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif died when members of another political party opened fire on them at a rally near the Islamabad airport Thursday, Pakistan police said."

Everyone seems to be making assumptions about who did this. I just thought I'd put this out there.

I personally think it was an assassination on many different levels. meaning they pulled out all the stops by placing shooters and suicide bombers in the area. Its obvious that it was a cohesive plan to make sure she was eliminated no matter what this time.

The question at this point is what now? There is no way anyone is going to know who really killed/ordered her killed. There was a reason for her death and I think we will see it unfold soon.

They have this down to a science after doing it for so many years. There is a plan even if it seems like chaos.

reply to post by Bunch

I agree, but when I say that many things could be at work here this is what I mean, when have you heard of a suicide bomber draw a rifle or gun? And we all the stuff that goes around those countries, it could have been a murder for hire, or a murder for ransom for all I know.

Dont take this the wrong way I am not trieing to knock you...But you havnt been to Iraq or know anyone there do ya??? I know this isnt Iraq where this happened btw it is the same type fundamentalists though...But any how 2 weeks after my son was deployed in Iraq he had a comrade about 3 feet in front of him take his "pot" off his head to adjust the web just as he was going out the door and a sniper shot him before he put it back on just as he went out the door...So yes they do have snipers aswell...

If she was shot in the neck..or where ever then the attacker blew himself up??? Thats makes no sense what so ever..? It smells as if this was a hit job. I see it as if this was a fail safe to have a cover. The present powers order her taken out and use a planted suicide bomber as cover. It's a bad cover at that. Lets see what is going on around the middle east today to see if this is another C.I.A. smoke screen to pull off some political manuvering in the middle east?

Sky News reports, Musharraf calls for high level emergency meeting, the rumor is that he will reinstate Emergency rule.

There is still no official statement from Musharraf on the assasination of Bhutto.

Either way, no matter who is truely responsible, this will probably lead to civil war in Pakastan.

Sounds like Musharaf has already gone into emergency meetings with his top people.

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reply to post by tsloan


I didnt hear it was the same person that blew himself up or not...But remember Musharrif has had attempts on his lfe aswell....Thats what these raddicals want is total chaos they just want a leader in there that will hit Americans and obviously Msharrif hasnt turned on us....Or he would be killed by our spies...

Fox News is now has a guy on there saying that this is Pakastan's version of the Kennedy assanation.

reply to post by Sentinel 1


Oh don't get me wrong! I have served in Iraq, I know first hand of the capabilities of these guys, my points is that just because this was a suicide attack or they made it look like one doesn't mean that Musharraf is not involved, he has just as much invested in keeping his hold to power than any other group trying to get to power.

Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Sky News reports, Musharraf calls for high level emergency meeting, the rumor is that he will reinstate Emergency rule.

There is still no official statement from Musharraf on the assasination of Bhutto.

It's obvious Musharraf is behind this

I am not surprised he is planning to reinstate Emergency rule. If Prime Minister Gordon Brown has any balls (which he hasn't) he would cut all aid to Musharraf dictatorship

My God truly bless and watch over the soul of Bhutto, she was a hero to the people of Pakistan.

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Originally posted by Animal
I do not know names as I am wildly ignorant of Pakistani politics, but I do know that other political opposers to Musharrafs rule had fled the country, and I know at least one other had returned.

Careful now. She didn't flee the country because of Musharraf. She left during the reign of the former President (the man Musharraf overthrew), after being removed from office on corruption charges. She had to leave the country or face trial and imprisonment. Musharraf pardoned her.

Well I just turned the TV on and lo and behold the braking news.

I agree with many here that this was an assassination and it has politics all over.

Many annalist are blaming US intervention for the targeting of Bhutto and the instabilities in Pakistan because US favor the government in power right now.

This brings two issues, the upcoming elections in Pakistan and the now acting leadership that doesn't want to lose their hold on that nation.

Pakistan is called a moderate democracy in the making but we all know that Pakistan is rule by dictatorship.

I am very, very sad for the death of Mrs. Bhutto but we all know that after two attempts to her life this was bound to happen one way or the other.

I wonder what the thread would be like if Ron Paul was actually assassinated, titled the thread something like "Ron Paul assassinated, bullets unheard".

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reply to post by marg6043


Pakistan has a nuclear capability. That's why Washington has no choice to back them because there is still a nuclear flash point with India.

reply to post by Bunch


I agree he has alot to gain off of this but the main reason I dont think he had anything to do with this is there has been numerous attacks in the place she was today and the fact this was awfully sloppy to be a pollitical hit by us or Musharrif...And thank you sir for your service in Iraq aswell...



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