B-theism

Originally posted by orangetom1999
It is cyclical but only because there is something else working behind the scenes..not seen by those it effects.

It's cyclical because it is a dynamic linear system. People rush into rising markets because of the potential to get rich quick or at least to get their fair share, then they react out of fear when it stops rising, pulling out to protect themselves and causing to collapse. Then when it reaches a bottom, people start thinking it will go up again, remember how high it went last time and try to get in early to maximize their gain.

Historically when ever a money system becomes worthless the government collapses.

Government mismanagement drives down currency -- currency doesn't drive down governments. Governments set currency value with interest rates. This is today's failure of Bush.

Very seldom in history has a money system and government collapsed and a better system replace it.

Ha! In fact this is the only way things ever happen. How can you replace something with something worse and get everyone's buy-in? Name ONE currency that is valued lower than the one that preceded it? Do you have any idea what European currencies were worth before WWII?

Misuse of the money power always tends twords tyranny.

Governments control currency value with supply and interest rate. The market only adapts to this. If it costs a billion dollars to buy a loaf of bread this is clearly a result of oversupply of money and failure of government. A government doesn't need to be tyrannical to be a failure, just incompetent. Only then people like Hitler can have an opportunity.

...this may be true but I dont think they are in charge of this.

I know Chinese people. Communism was never in their nature as a collective people. It takes a strong dictatorship to hold Communism in place. That doesn't exist now. The people in charge don't even want Communism, they just know that if you just shut it off, there will be a coup like in Russia to fill the void of the Dictator they don't have.

I say this because if they knew what they were doing they wouldnt be beholden to the western money lenders for technology transfer and know how.

First off, Chinese people love money, especially the U.S. Dollar. (This is why Communism makes no sense!) The U.S. Dollar is collapsing because the Chinese can't buy anything with it, so they need to trade it for other money that has worth. China (as a people) don't respect IP, copyright or technology ownership, regardless of the laws the U.S. imposes on the government. China copies every technology for it's own use at costs far below ours.

They would have done all this on thier own.

Go to China. They have already done it.

The same group of lenders who rebuilt China ...rebuilt Korea, and Japan complete with money transfer. When they are done with China they will abandon her...just like they abandoned Japan and Korea.

China owns the U.S. China is the Lender now, along with Saudi Arabia. They have all the money. They control the value of the U.S. Dollar far more than Bush.

This is the cycle..when costs rise they reinvest where profits are higher and competant labor is cheaper.

They being corporations not governments. The cost of oil is far more restrictive of corporate activities.

As to Gorbachev...the money powers could no longer hide the truth of what Communism was ..economically.

Gorbachev did not do what he did because he could not hide the failure of Communism anymore, and you fail to prove that the current system is worse than the previous system.

There is nothing occult about any of this, go to school and take Economics 101.

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