Earlier today, I could see with my eyes shut.

Originally posted by jedimiller
It's actually pretty simple guys. when you sleepwalk, you have your eyes closed but you can still see. using your mind. I did it and I was scared as heck doing it and when I woke up I couldn't believe I had actually been doing that.

well that is funny, my Daughter is a sleepwalker and everytime I find her off walking around the house, her eyes are wide open.

How could the OP (sorry can't see the name of the member) be sleepwalking whilst awake? = Awake and yawned?





[edit on 16-12-2007 by Thurisaz]

well the OP could have been having a paralysis or other type of nervous effect with this eyelids. But from what I know, personally, when I sleepwalked the one and only time, I had my eyes closed and could see the street and the stoplights.


about your daughter, how do you know she's actually sleepwalking? she could be pretending to do so, how old is she?

She is not pretending.

She is 17 and I have put a bell on her door so that it wakes me if the door is opened. Everytime she is walking around the house, I have to lead her gently back to her bed. Her eyes are open and I know this because she looks at me (in a dream state) and talks to me about whatever it is she is off doing.

She has injured herself whilst sleepwalking. It is serious. Bruises, stubbed toes (one was bleeding she had hit it that hard)

So, perhaps some do sleepwalk with their eyes shut, but my Daughter sleepwalks with her eyes open.

I believe what you experienced. I have had similer experiences but only last during the yawn and my eyes are closed, I've only really just taken notice of it the last couple of weeks as it only started that long ago, so I've been trying to keep my eyes closed after it to see If I can still see the room I'm in with my eyes closed.
Sounds tripped.
If this is the third eye anyone have ideas on how to see out of it?

reply to post by Darcey


as soon as you sense it, focus on it.

Focus as if you are looking through your forehead.

LOL that does sound trippy but thats how I do it.

reply to post by jedimiller


I think it's more likely that when sleepwalking, you sleep with your eyes open, at least partially. How would you know that your eyes are actually closed if you're sleeping?

I am not claiming that the OP's experience is sleepwalking. Assuming there is not some neurological problem that is presenting, I would think of it most likely one of the following possibilities:

1. Sleepwalking/dreaming before fully waking up
2. The brain interpreting other senses as sight (3rd eye, spontaneous vision outside of the normal frequencies of visible light, combination of all senses - available light, sound, touch/air, smell synthesized as an image)

in that order of likelyhood.

I have had one sleepwalking experience that I remember. I believe I was 4. I thought I was awake, but I was dreaming as I soon found out. I got up in my bunk bed and had to pee. I climbed down from my bunk bed, walked to the kitchen garbage, opened it, and was about to pee into it. It did not seem like a kitchen garbage to me. Meanwhile, my mom had been watching me and realized what was happening. Before I actually started what I intended, she laughed and woke me up. It was a strange sensation. I immediately realized what I was doing and where I was, but while I was sleeping, everything was different. I have thought about how I was able to see, and though I never asked my mom that I remember, I had always assumed I was sleeping with my eyes open. I remember recognizing the difference between before and after she laughed, I am sure that I was first dreaming, then awake.

you can try an exercise.


Close your eyes and wave your arms in front of you face, you will immediately see your hands with your eyes clothes. later, after time, have a friend do it and guess how many fingers he's holding.

reply to post by Thurisaz




sounds like a hypnotic state rather than a sleep state,

she probably sees the the environment she's in reinterpeted
around the dream-reality playing out in her mind.

just the same as the 4 year olds episode... walking to the imagined bathroom toilet...which was actually a trash can in waking reality.



we get all sorts of cues from all sorts of senses, it's how we interpet them
which becomes our reality. whether its a dream reality or a self-hypnotized state or even a daydream reality

This has happened to me alot of times, I dont see full colours, I just see shades of the colour, and I can see the outlines of shapes, so I know where im going or what im doing. I just thought it was normal, eye lids are pretty thin .

Any thoughts on this -?

This is amazingly cool - or some would call it scary..

Seems like you for a brief short time experienced a ful control over your senses in some way...
Bad you can't watch TV while feeling like that - you might miss somthing on TV

j/k

I have tried that myself - even seen it emit from another person - And I think it is the beginning of the ability "TO SEE AURA" - i dunno - because - I can't see aura - or I choose to let it wait till later when I was ready to see aura somtime in the future.

But I think your into that field - if it's true..
I presume you write this because somthing happend - before you could suddently see stuff glow and..everything..

Not able to see TV..that is terrific.. excellent..

I mean - thats also alot of things done - while having shut eyes..
don't you think

Going down stairs...? I could write a whole story how: - "It is good to use eyes while walking down the stairs..." How high are those stairs? - Is it curved or an strait staircase?

You wrote somthing about the sun too - About how it shines...What was that again?


[edit on 16-12-2007 by Ram]
I want to know these details..
Im a detail guy - like details in stories.

[edit on 16-12-2007 by Ram]
I also want to share another perspective on this matter...
Now we have internet - you don't need to go down the bookstore anymore..
Unless you want to read the well known writers in this world...
Well known writers are here on ATS now.. It is the "new earth community" It is the beginning of the Ron Paul twist. That man agree to let people explore their minds - their world and communicate with all leaders in A whole new way... You have any idea how much stuff is going on today??

These years rise some Really huge energy bombs in the human society.
The least of this huge energy emmiting from these times 2007 - soon 2008.. The least of all the real issues of this planet - the least of it get's on TV anymore..
Most of it - is here on ATS at the moment.

In a treaty in, the new world - Thoughts should never be a crime.
Ideas should be funded and given to the people -
You can build your house the good old way.. Your style - Not some pre-made house... You know - even arcitects would have alot of work to be able to help the people who have no idea how to build thier own houses - Arcitects rule your own house building instincts..
That should be given free - you can now get a computerprogram that you can use to build your own house - Dude - We need some building blocks...
There we have it - 4 billion people just got a job!!!

Share your thoughts on ATS - Keep the community alive..

Go go Ron Paul - this is our Dream!!!
btw - im from Denmark (I can't vote for him)
oh but try this one who would the world elect

[edit on 16-12-2007 by Ram]

This could be some form of echolocation. But if you could see colors it makes me think otherwise. They actually had a blind guy on Oprah the other day.He used a form of echo location and could get around just fine. He didn't use a cane or seeing eye dog. He made a clicking sound against the roof of his mouth and that was how he was able to get around. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me.

I don't doubt this experience. It has never happened to me before, but I have heard numerous accounts on Erowid, usually shrooms where this has happened to people. I do believe it's the mystical third eye and it must have been a pretty cool experience. Too bad there's no one who really has this stuff down pat enough to teach it to the masses.

I think a book every one in this post, especially the OP needs to read is "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot. He discusses in GREAT detail, and completely foot-noted, the vast history this topic has with mankind. His theory is that the universe operates under the same fundamental principles as a hologram. He makes a VERY strong case and it may shed some light on what you all are experiencing.

This happens to me quiet regularily, I use it as a skill, I personally believe we are an empathic species that have capabilities when trained to use them like by organisations like synapse. Mind you I have had alot of tryptamines in my time, not in huge doses but sometime in the morning or when I am tired I can see the room around me and walk around with my eyes shut.

Nothing to worry about, if you tell a psychologist though they will lock you away and call Mental Health drugs on you.. Problem is as a psychologist you haven't even identified why a neuro network is self aware, in synthetic or organic existences. So how do you know those drugs are any good, the truth is they have to be made from an isoquinoline so they treat the body correctly much the same way an isoquinoline becomes and alkaloid in the plant.. The isoquinoline breaks down to become riverbean and proteins that are an actual cure.

Yeah I wouldn't worry about it, but you could be contacted by synapse for empathic training, that why you can sense how your wife is feeling above and beyond sight and hearing.


www.extraterrestrialembassy.com


[edit on 16-12-2007 by 3meo-iq]

that usta happen to me in the 60's, after a hit of blotter!!!

I did the same thing after I took a small amount of magic mushrooms. I could literally have see my surroundings with my eyes shut and navigate through my environment.

You might have only assumed your eyes were closed. I did that once when I was meditating. I was relaxed, felt vibrations of "something" overtake me and I started to see something. After a few moments, I realized it was my ceiling. I freaked out for a moment because I was sure my eyes were closed. But when I checked, they were open. As I relaxed, my eye slowly opened without me being aware of it.

This is not the first account of this happening for sure.

If you know this actually happened then you don't have to accept other people's explanations on this board such as paralysis, sleepwalking, etc. Folks here will try and "tell" you what happened to you, but you are the one who had the experience.

There is the physical world and there is the spiritual world. I believe the spirit does not necessarily need eyes or brain to see. People that have had OOBEs probably can recall seeing and not needing their body. Some of them recall things like looking down on themselves. So, here you are above your body. Your brain and eyes are inside the body, yet you can see and comprehend. Raises good questions.

Taking your story at face value as truth, you are not abnormal. This is not a psychological or medical problem. I think perhaps you became more aware of things.

Troy

I'm not generally into anything that some would term "new age" but I must admit that this happens to me periodically as well. As much as i can remember it only happens as I'm trying to fall asleep. Ever since i was a child I've had trouble falling asleep and long ago learned to basically meditate myself to sleep, just completely clearing my mind and just breathing, not moving or letting one iota of a thought enter my mind (oddly this results in dreamless sleep).

It happens slowly, i sort of realize that I'm staring at the ceiling or wall although my eyes are closed. I can pass my hand in front of my face and see it and all my fingers, i can make out other objects in the room although everything is pretty blurry and poorly formed. I haven't yet attempted to actively make it happen.

I also have a strong empathic and telepathic sense, the telepathy is so strong with certain people it sometimes manifests in the Hollywood style where the other person responds verbally as though i spoke it out loud.

I am by no means a "new ager" but I do completely believe in the untapped potential of the human brain. i see no plausible scientific reason that our brains couldn't act in the way we're describing given the right conditions. I don't know if these things happen to only a certain type of person or if it can be learned or if other things such as hallucinogenic substances can contribute to it. I will admit to having done an obscene amount of '___' (what the hell, not like i have a reputation to uphold)