Another Question for Conservatives...

I want to know something. Even on here, a pedophile republican is protected, defending, promoted. One was asked to run for president and did(lost), another was promoted to head of abused and missing childrens committee. Another was made head of the GOP Party! Not to mention theGOP running a child sex ring out of the White House in the 80's and another in Texas when Bush43 came into power.

But... If the same person were to come out as gay... "Burn! Kill!" house fire bombed, family shot, neighbors killed, guy dragged to death behind a truck. Bomb the city block with million dollar missiles.

Why? Why does the GOP, even on here, protect and defend pedophiles but hate and discriminate against the gays? Why does a gay senator told to step down from office while a pedophile senator is asked to run for president?

Just thought I'd provide a few links for you to read over.

Mike McHaney - Democratic Child Molester

Andrew Reed - Democratic Kiddie Porn Leader

List of 13 Other Democratic Perverts

Sure there are some evil Republicans out there, but there are just as many Democrats. Don't come around here lumping an entire group of people into a category of perverts or pedophiles. We're trying to "deny ignorance" here, not breed it.

List of nearly a hundred, known, including info on 2 child sex rings ran by republicans.
www.armchairsubversive.org...

Also, you forgot to mention in your links that those democrats were punished, not asked to run for President.

See, like with the church, it isn't that the priests rape children it is that the other priests, cardinals, bishops, and even the pope himself protected the pedophiles.

Dems caught, punished. Reps caught, run for president.

[edit on 12-12-2007 by HHH Is King]

Yes but running for President isn't the same as being elected President...

Clinton Legacy

Either way, we could post links back and forth all day and get nowhere. The point is that true, there are many people ON BOTH SIDES who commit crimes and do disgusting things, that's a fact of life. This doesn't give you the right to claim that all GOP members are pedophiles are stick up for pedophiles though.

That's the same kind of hateful rhetoric that those of you on the left claim not to spew.

And once again we have a "Bill Clinton had sex with consenting adults! So its ok for the GOP to rape 5 year old boys!"

And the ever classic.

"Yeah, but they weren't gay! Just pedophiles!"

Sad

I didn't mention either of those things. Did you even read any of the link?

It had nothing to do with that.

I'm wasting my time here. I'm done.

Could you post the date of conviction of this sick bastard alleged pedo running for President?

Originally posted by slackerwire
Could you post the date of conviction of this sick bastard alleged pedo running for President?

Yoiu mean Strom Thurmond, a GOP Senator, who wasa raping and impregnated a 14 year old black girl while running on pro segregation? Haven't you been listening? The GOP doesn't punish, the protect and promote. You see the democratic pedos going to jail but not the republican ones, no, they're asked to run for president or made head of the Abused and Missing Childrens committee.

Also, again Semp thinks I'm a democrat so by providing links to Democrats going to jail(Being punished not protected) I will somehow stop exposing his Gods as the child rapists that they are. Sorry, not a dem, or a rep, but a conservative. Something you nor the GOP has been for decades.

Really this pointless partisan bashing thread is a sign of how far AP is slipping if it isnt pointless threads like this one its Ron Paul mania.
As for the topic corruption , criminal elements and just plain sickos span the political spectrum enough said.

reply to post by xpert11


I don't think Ron Paul mania is specific to AP, it seems to have infected a pretty significant portion of the internet. How that translates to real voters is another story, one we'll have to wait to hear the end of.

I do agree though, xpert. How does any of this help anything? We're supposed to be on the same side. I'm sick of Democrats and Republicans who, instead of trying to better their own party, would rather focus on spewing hate for their opposition. The mud slinging has to stop or there will be a split in this country.

Slightly off topic, but germain to the discussion, this is something that I have become aware of since taking a job overseas, three years now...

What I noticed is that since Bush's second election victory, the U.S. (my home country) has become a very hateful place politically...the center ground seems to have been completely erased...both sides openly hate each other and say and do some of the most contemptable things to each other...

In the past, politics was about finding the middle ground and both sides working to better the country, regardless of who is in charge at the time.

Now it just seems that whichever party is in office, it becomes the resposibility of the also rans to slander and lie as much as possible.
And the grassroots involvement is what surprises me...politicians have always done this...but now if you read just about any site that allows talk-back, comments...it's the regular joe who is calling slandering, using profanity, insulting people for nothing more than not seeing theings their way.

I find this most troubleing of all...the voters have lost site of bettering the country, they just want their candidate elected...damn the country!

my2cents...

What is so wrong about this question? I believe it is a very legitamite question. Why is a gay Senator told to resign for being gay but a pedophile one told to run for president? Why are pedophiles so revered by the GOP yet gays are discriminated against? Why whenever a GOP gets into the White House a child sex ring is formed but they try their best to make gays 3rd class humans?

So again, why does the GOP(Far from Conservative mind you, hasn't been for decades) discriminate against Gays but protect, defend, promote pedophiles?

Anyone? Will no one from the GOP step up and answer? Why is a gay senator told to resing while a pedophile one asked to run for President? Why are gays treated worse then animals but pedophiles made head of the abused and missing childrens committee or GOP Party Leader?

reply to post by deadbang


What needs to be understood is that in America, the Democratic party is the "middle ground". The party has been dragged pretty far from its previous liberal position, into a more corporate / right-wing apologetic position. It's why we are essentially a one-party system. One party is the abuser, the other is the battered spouse with stockholm syndrome.

Now, speaking as someone who's pretty heavy to the left, I have no real interest in watching a centrist party try to "compromise" with an extremist one. Which is exactly what we see in American politics. I feel we need to pull the centrists back towards the left, and then we can talk about compromise, possibly reaching a more level middle ground.

Also something I've noticed... Liberals are angry at conservatives for conditions on the ground brought on by conservative voters and the people they elect. On the other hand, conservatives are angry at liberals because Bill Clinton got a blowjob and we don't want Pat Robertson to become grand Ayatollah of America.

[edit on 8-1-2008 by The Walking Fox]

Originally posted by HHH Is King
Dems caught, punished. Reps caught, run for president.

To me it boils down to the power structure behind the party. Economic power, military power, and power over intelligence agencies (specifically having more dirt on your opponent than he or she has on you). We've all heard it before, the military-industrial complex. That is and will always be the Republican base. How in the hell did the "wide stance" Senator from Idaho keep his job? All the crap about the Republicans running him out of the Senate was just a show for Joe Republican. There was never any real intention of running him out. It was just an illusion meant to fool Joe Republican into thinking his party still held the moral high ground. Hell, they even marched Tom DeLay out there and he was actually able to turn the negative media coverage around and fuel the illusion of a "liberal" media. That's the real genius of the GOP. And predictably, regarding Larry Craig, in time people forget and don't care anymore. They go back to sleep right on cue.

Personally I believe the more powerful are always the more twisted. They're more twisted because they can be and the consequences are minimal.

Peace

Well, I think its less complicated.

You rape children, you don't want to get caught. What do you do? Slap a NAMBLA sticker on your car or go on TV and declare yourself the leader of Moral Majority?

You molest your own daughter, do you support pedophilia or do you go on TV and declare all gays are pedophiles and we need to exterminate them?

So the pedos, the freaks, flock to the GOP.

But that's not the end of it.

Even if every Republican was a pedophile(They aren't) it wouldn't matter if when caught were arrested and punished. But when caught the GOP has them run for president, make them head of Abused and Missing Childrens committee, head of the GOP Party, protect them with tax payer money to defend them in court, run child sex rings out of the White House(1980's) or Texas(2000's) and worse.

As my name came up in this thread

Also, again Semp thinks I'm a democrat so by providing links to Democrats going to jail(Being punished not protected) I will somehow stop exposing his Gods as the child rapists that they are.

And seeing as I have never read it before, I thought it only polite to reply.

I thought this germane to the discussion...

Interesting to say the least...

Those Who Protest Too Much are Seen as Guilty
Ben Yandell

University of Kentucky

160 students listened to a tape recording in which a target person was or was not accused of damaging a typewriter. The target person either denied damaging the typewriter or admitted damaging it, or the tape was stopped before his response was heard. Observers rated a target person who denied having damaged the typewriter as more likely to be guilty when his denial occurred in the absence of an accusation than when his denial followed an accusation.

PSP

Contemporary cognitive models of obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) assume that clinical obsessions evolve from some modalities of intrusive thoughts (ITs) that are experienced by the vast majority of the population. These approaches also consider that the differences between “abnormal” obsessions and “normal” ITs rely on quantitative parameters rather than qualitative.

Science Direct

An obsession is not the same as a compulsion. Compulsions are forms of deterministic behaviour (the ways that the person acts in situations that he cannot cope with). These kinds of behaviour have their main origin in guilt and anxiety. Obsessions have their main origin in fear and jealousy.

Obsessions

Troubling stuff here...

Semper

I see, calling me a pedophile... Yes that's a way to show you have nothing left. Good job, your Gods fall, you insult me. And have been alerted.

Originally posted by HHH Is King
I see, calling me a pedophile... Yes that's a way to show you have nothing left. Good job, your Gods fall, you insult me. And have been alerted.

hmm, interesting response. very interesting.
methinks thou has protested juuuuust the right amount for 4 out of 5 psychologists to reach a conclusion..

First of all, Semperfortis has only posted once in this thread.
NYK537 was the one challenging your contentions.

Second, I can see why you would read those external sources as you did, but they could just as easily be suggesting that you are a closet Republican (which might explain why Semperfortis is being so docile- trust me, I've seen the guy debate).

Anyway, I'll cut to the chase- this Whole Thread seems founded on accusing people of pedophilia, and that is quite distasteful. It would be greatly appreciated if both sides could take a deep breath, and ask themselves if they honestly believe that anybody else in this thread is a pedophile. God willing, the answer is NO.

After realizing that, let's continue the discussion in a nice civil manner, so that we can explore the reason that certain people's offenses or alleged offenses were handled as they were, whether or not the handling was appropriate, and whether that infact reveals any flaw which is peculiar to a single party. All of that can be done without anyone in this thread being accused of either being a pedophile or turning a blind eye towards such offenses.

In a word: chill.