Noah's Ark Found on the Moon!!!!

This post is being started at the request of another member (rikriley) in response to my post here

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My post was regarding man made objects on the moon and my response was made in jest stating a large rectagular looking object was Noah's Ark. After thinking about Whether to create this post or not I decided that it would be an excellent topic to discuss on here regardless of your personal views on religeon and alien life forms.

So the topic is the possibility that Noah's ark was not a ship to sail the seven seas but a ship to sail the galaxy to save all the mamals of the planet from the impending doom of a world wide flood.

I am more of a literal person and my personal beliefs are those that the ark was created but never left the earth. However when I play devils advocate with this theory a few points come to mind which could be debated extensively on this forum.


1. In order to save the species of this planet one would need a large ship, supplies, logistics, etc to ensure the survival of all species on board.
2. If not god then who? THe ancients? possibly the technology existed back then but was destryed during the flood. In theory perhaps the world was much more advanced than we are today. This would explain a lot of things, the pyramids, Atlantis, Aliens, mayan calendar etc.
3. There are many here who believe in structures on the moon. If this is the case perhaps those structures were created to ensure the survival of the species. They knew of an impending disaster and were able to move a portion of the population and animal species to the moon for temporary safe keeping until the earth was inhabitable again in which case they would abondon the moon and return to earth.
4. Perhaps in order to ensure the future survival of our species and the technology it had to be stored on the moon. Unfortunatley during repopulation after the calamity it was impossible to restore civilization as it had been and knowing that civilization would have to be rebuilt and go through technological evolution the moon base along with a contingency were left on the moon to care for the technology until we once again reached the point where we could access and use this technology. THink about it like this, what better place to store advanced technology than the moon, because it could not be discovered until we came to a point in our evolution where we could actively pursue lunar exploration. We are still in our infancy regarding this but could be on the verge of discovering this technology. Unless of course we already have and it is being covered up by our government.
5. It is also possible that the contigency force left behind on the moon has finally been able to fullfill their mission and return to earth since we do have that technology to visit the moon and this contingent has been working with our government to restore the ancient world and technologies.

And the super huge spaceship was built by the ancients that said the world was flat and the earth was the center of the universe. Oh and the moon is made of cheese so how could they possibly land on it ?

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Were talking many thousands of years before that. Of course at one time we thought the earth was flat it is because we lost all knowledge and records of the ancient technology and we had to undergo the process of gaining and learning knowledge from scratch.

Here I see something that could look like a number of things, including nothing ( which is the most likely one )
+ an outlandish story about one of the things it may be but has a .001% chance of it being.
As long as this stays a theory it's all good. But is there really any need to muddy the waters with an extra theory even more..

Sorry im not convinced.

The "great flood" was probably just a story or an exagerrated event.

If we can dig up bones of dinosaurs that are Billions of years old then dont you think we would find some evidence of a past civilisation which had better technology than us?

I've already posted my beliefs. But if we can argue about blurry images of moon bases, Shadow moons, Alien lifeforms, NWO then why can't we tie all this together with one theory.

There are no aliens they are are ancestors that were forced to leave the planet prior to an impending disaster. Patiently waitng thousands upon thousands of years until we once again advanced enough to begin planetary travel. The first step being the moon where all of those resources would be safe until we reached a more advacned level. Now that we have been to hte moon and have made contact plans are being made to restore the world and the technology that once was.

Hmmmmm. THis would make a great book/Movie please consider all my ideas and thoughts as being copyrighted intellectual property.

Copyright 2007 Photobug

Originally posted by OnTheFence
If we can dig up bones of dinosaurs that are Billions of years old

Thats old all right

Well just to toss photobug a 'bone" seeing as he did this in the right spirit...



Sumerians believed that the universe consisted of a flat disk enclosed by a tin dome(2). The Sumerian afterlife involved a descent into a gloomy netherworld to spend eternity in a wretched existence as a Gidim (ghost).

Sumerian Mythology

Now if you want to have a look of how that "flat disk with a tin roof" might look... I present you ...

NOAH's ARK...

Now if you read all about the Sumerians and Gilgamesh you will get the gist of the whole flood/ark story (and how big it REALLY was



Flagged and Starred just to see what 'shakes loose'

Its too bad the show never caught on... they had a great premise

[edit on 10-12-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by OnTheFence
Sorry im not convinced.

The "great flood" was probably just a story or an exagerrated event.

If we can dig up bones of dinosaurs that are Billions of years old then dont you think we would find some evidence of a past civilisation which had better technology than us?

its hard not to want to believe the flood cause if you look at every culture and religion they all have an historic flood in all parts of the world

so its kinda hard to deny the happenings of said story, now wether the multitude or grandulocity of it can be up for debate

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Read your post, since you wrote that you have an open mind, maybe your idea's have been liked at and worked out back in the Fifthies when the space ponineers where planing the trips to the moon and beyond, future trips for more than a thousand travalers requires planing like waste, clean air, and water, Oh and one and a halfs, Sorry an earth bound person, now your link at kings creater how fast was the craft moving, was image first pass, second, stills with zoom, to find something like That you most know were to look???

The title is very misleading. Overall it is just someone's theory with nothing more than his/her opinion.
Dissapointing.

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Noah's Ark Found on the Moon!!!!

Hi photobug, I know that waves can be very high sometimes, up to 30 meters, but a wave that can lift Noah's Ark and put it on the Moon must be an unearthly one, right.
Just kidding of course, and back to your topic.
You said,

Originally posted by photobug
the topic is the possibility that Noah's ark was not a ship to sail the seven seas but a ship to sail the galaxy to save all the mamals of the planet from the impending doom of a world wide flood.

Your idea of Noah's ark was not a ship to sail the seven seas is in my opinion the only right explanation.
I personally don’t buy the Bibles Noah's Ark story as it is told in there.
Because, even if you have only one male and female of each species you never can reproduce an healthy population of them, that’s scientific impossible if I am correct, because of inbreeding.
So, when someone wants to save most of the species as there where then on Earth, it is logic to me that the only way to succeed is to collect as much DNA and Genetic material as possible, necessary to reproduce a healthy population after the destructive event again.
So you must create a giant DNA/Genetic material data bank, and that’s what good have happened, at least that’s my opinion of course.
I see no good reason why they would store it on the Moon because they [the Aliens] can store it everywhere they want.
But suppose that what I say has happened, you have another problem.
How did you get a healthy population that’s working when you start at the bottom.
You can put a group of new DNA lions back in the Serengeti but to grow and survive successfully, those animals need the lessons of there parents, so how do you deal with that problem?

But if the story of Noah's Ark and the flood are real, and many say there is evidence to support that possibility, then the Alien option, not the Human option is for me the most logical option.

Because, even if you have only one male and female of each species you never can reproduce an healthy population of them, that’s scientific impossible if I am correct, because of inbreeding.

How correct you are. The simple fact is there is not enough differences in the DNA to allow a species to grow and thrive if they all come from just two. I forget where I read a report from a microbiologist on this topic ( I will keep looking and post it if I find it ) but it was stated that bottlenecking the gene pool like this would have wiped out everything because of lack of diversity in the gene pool.

It should be noted though that chances are very good that the flood was not global, but rather local. It was either History channel or Discovery channel that did a show on this and stated that Noah was actually a river merchant who sailed up and down the river selling goods he bought at different stops. His whole family lived on the barge with him and that when the local flood happened, it seemed to them that the whole world had flooded.

Because they lived on the barge, obviously they would have their food and livestock with them.

Either way, DNA alone suggests that this story is just that.. a story.

VV

Noahs Ark was indeed a space ship.

It was a 'ship' just one that went through space.

And it is indeed logical to avert some incoming waves of destruction to avert into the dark sea of awareness, space.

Makes perfect sense to collect Earth Sciences and take them aboard a ship and come back with the cure to humanity.

ok so lets say that it is noah's ark.
so since its considered to have been made of wood, wouldnt it have burned up in the atmosphere on its way to the moon? and also, what fueled/propelled its way all the way up there?

[edit on 12/11/2007 by agent violet]

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That's where the logic comes in, what could go to space and not burn up, only a craft from above.

Rewriting things in our past seems to be the way to our future.

Many things have been taken out of history because it wasn't necessary for that time frame or comprehensible.

But a side note, Unconventional Crafts are seen leaving our oceans fifty two percent of the time. Therefore it could be logical to support the life underneath the ocean and come above when its all over. But It is to my knowing that it was indeed a SPACE SHIP (Noah's Ark).Think about all the different life forms that could be onboard a Mothership. All you would need is the cell of each Genetic coding to support life.

Being a believer that the human race was genetically engineered by a more advanced species, I often wonder if Noah took samples of each animal's DNA so that they could recreate them later.
I have also read that a planet-wide flood would destroy the atmosphere, and wondered if a near-by planet that shows evidence of an atmosphere in the past (Mars) could have been our original home... Anyways, your thread has sparked some old curiosities. It looks like I have some reading to do!

Noah's ark can't be on the moon because there was no 'Noah's Ark'.

However, there may have been a space ship that contained life from another world .. an 'ark' of sorts ... that came down on EARTH - which could sustain the life. (not the moon)

Originally posted by spacevisitor
Your idea of Noah's ark was not a ship to sail the seven seas is in my opinion the only right explanation.

I realize photobug did this on more or less a dare... but this might get somewhere...

Greetings spacevisitor... I happen to agree with your assessment and have been studying this for some time...

There are a few points I would like to make... if the space ark was indeed made of pods like I showed in the image (and the brief Sumerian legend) then there is no problem... once the catastrophe is over just release the pods and all will be well.

The indications I have found is that there was a LOT more calamity than just a flood but that is another thread...

Now lets go to the Bible for a moment...

The Ark was built according to cubits

"Make yourself an ark of cypress* wood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and out with pitch. 15This is how you are to make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16Make a roof* for the ark, and finish it to a cubit above; and put the door of the ark in its side; make it with lower, second, and third decks. "

So just how big IS a cubit? Well we have the modern conversion...

"The "Royal Egyptian Cubit" was decreed to be equal to the length of the forearm from the bent elbow to the tip of the extended middle finger plus the width of the palm of the hand of the Pharaoh or King ruling at that time."

Eastman's bible dictionary says there are at least 2
measures for the term "cubit":

* Standard cubit : elbow to end of middle finger (20").
* Lower forearm cubit : elbow to base of the hand (12").

Now when I was studying some papers on Chinese astronomy I found a very curious reference... but a little back ground first..

The item came about as I was looking up reference The Great Square of Pegasus in association to Babylonian Astronomy

In Astronomy today we use the Pegasus Square to point the way to the Andromeda Galaxy

The Sumerian name for the constellation marking the gateway to "Paradise" was l-Iku. which is the Pegasus-square. It lies between the two fish of the Pisces constellation. This word. Iku, was a fundamental field measure, and was taken by Unqnad (1923) 29 to represent Paradise as the primordial field. This is reminiscent of the Elysian fields of the Greeks, which were near the Underworld, though not part of Hades’ dominion (near Pluto, but not in its orbital plane?) Moreover, an iku is about 3,600 square metres, and 3,600 is the orbital period claimed by Sitchin for Nibiru. 1-Iku was also the name of the Temple of MARDUK in Babylon.

www.diagnosis2012.co.uk...

So what we have here is effectively the gateway to the Sumerian "Eden" (I am not going to go into detail as this is all covered in the "Stargates are Real" thread)

More important we have a reference to the size of the Sumerian 'acre', the '1-iku' as being 3,600 sq meters...

Now from the Chines ancient astronomy "Building the Chinese Universe" there is a small reference that struck me...

"Two bright stars in xiu Yinshi and two stars in xiu Dongbi form the Great Square of Pegasus, the 1-iku (one acre sqaure) used to measure the cube-ship of the original Noah, Utnapishtim; It was also the name of the temple of Marduk in Babylon (Bab-ilani, "gate of the gods')"

So if we add up all the clues we have a gateway to the Sumerian gods pointing to Andromeda, we have a HUGE ship that was the Sumerian "Noah's Ark" and Sitchin's interpretation that Nibiru is a planet...

Perhaps Nibiru is Noah's Ark and will come back to save the Earth next time it's needed... and with all the gloom and doom talk associated to 2012 and the Mayan/Sumerian connections....

well we are in for interesting times...

I personally don’t buy the Bibles Noah's Ark story as it is told in there.
Because, even if you have only one male and female of each species you never can reproduce an healthy population of them, that’s scientific impossible if I am correct, because of inbreeding.

I have brought this point up several times and even asked religious people who claim to be well versed in the Bible...

The problem with most people is that they easily accept pupolar myth and rarely READ anything...

How many animals of each kind went onto the Ark? Well most people say " Oh that's easy TWO of each..."

Well is that what it says?

Genesis 7 Verse 2

"Take with you seven pairs of all clean animals, the male and its mate; and a pair of the animals that are not clean, the male and its mate; "



Now that makes FOURTEEN of each 'clean' beasty (7 pairs)

There are many separate interpretations but all say 7, a male and a female but there is some confusion of the 'unclean' Some Bibles say 1 pair, some say 2 pairs... Here is a LIST of the various interpretations...

bible.cc...

So FOURTEEN or 7 pairs would certainly be a more viable re-population sample than 1 pair... but would need one heck of a big ship...

Think about it

Originally posted by Trauma
I have also read that a planet-wide flood would destroy the atmosphere, and wondered if a near-by planet that shows evidence of an atmosphere in the past (Mars) could have been our original home...

Hmmm I could toss a few things in here to 'stir the pot" Don't ask for links etc at this point I am also going to list events from the top of my head and in no particular order ( I don't have my notes handy nor have completed the research) It will seem crazy but work with me

The War of The Worlds - Ancient Times

Three Planets involved...
Earth Mars and Planet X
There was a war between them...

Atomic (or similar weapons were involved)
- The Vedic scriptures tell of such explosions
- The Biblical destruction of Sodom and Gomorah reads like a nuclear blast
- Desert regions of Earth contain tektites.. atomic tests in Nevada created tektites

One planet (X) knocked out of orbit... grazes Earth in a near collision... tears the Moon out of what is now the Pacific Ocean, moves Earth out of orbit.. to its new orbit further out...

Planet X continues moving out breaks up and forms the asteroid belt... the resulting debris peppers most of the bodies in the solar system with meteorites... hence the craters all over the Planets and Moons in the NASA pictures...
- Bible "sun stopped in the sky"
- Earth had clouds like Venus blocking cosmic rays and it was warmer... The movement of the planet and subsequent cooling cause the "firmament to open" and the rains came down flooding the Earth Stars are seen by mankind for the first time in the night sky...
- before the flood lifespans of humans were hundreds of years (Noah was over 800 and still had sons) After the Flood we can barely make it to 100...

Mars lost its atmosphere in this war... and most of its water (there are some indications that maybe a 'gateway" was opened up on Mars under water and the water dumped onto the Earth)

Mt Meru legend in India has a 'gateway that collapses and causes world wide catastrope, the Himalayan Mts are created during this time...
- the result of ripping out the Moon leaving the current active "Ring of Fire" in the pacific, the breaking up of Pangea and continental drift all tie in to this...

In a 1610 painting from Japan the aftermath of Mt Meru is depicted as a watery vortex... the location is in the Himalayan range where India meets Tibet... the same area where Tibetans locate the gateway to Shambala...



Now to bring this full circle to the Sumerians...

Symbol of Radioactive energy modern times...



Templar Cross. This cross is usually surrounded by a snake eating its tail...



Ouroboros...This symbol and the snake in general keep cropping up in all the research... The serpent spoke to eve... the "serpent energy" that twines itself around the spine to give you god like powers (Kundalini) the serpents twined around the medical staff symbolizing DNA etc etc in all cultures around the globe... the snake eating its tale is also representative of infinity



The Celtic Cross...



The symbol used to represent Mt Meru a Vedic area of great power and home of the Gods



A pendant worn by an Anunnaki King... representing the dark star



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The above collection is meant to illustrate how its all connected and snippets are found in many ancient texts. It will seem crazy to many.... so be it...
But think about this...

To put this all together in an orderly fashion would take a lifetime...

Questions?

That was a pretty interesting read there. So are the proportions and composition of the Pacific similar to that of the Moon?
As for the asteroid belt theory, I also like this one. If I remember correctly, there was a ratio discovered before we discovered the last 5 planets in the early 1900s. This ratio corresponded with the planets which we discovered after, but supposedly we're missing a planet between Mars and Venus.