Annunaki theory, Angels and Dragons…

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en.wikipedia.org...

Yeah you’re right about that………but I’m still looking at a few things that just can’t be seen without some (alien quality) to it……Every time I see the pyramids, it just gets at me……we are in the 21 century and we still can’t figure it out, so how come they can back 3000 years ago….? It’s like we’re being teased or something…. and don’t the pyramids point to the Orion constellation, which is where ( I think, can’t remember ) the greys or some sort of alien race is supposedly meant to be from..?
But there’s more………….

The history of Baalbeck dates back around 5000 years. Excavations near the Jupiter temple have revealed the existence of ancient human habitation dating to the Early Bronze Age (2900-2300 BC). The Phoenicians settled in Baalbeck as early as 2000 BC and built their first temple dedicated to the God Baal, the Sun God, from which the city got its name. en.wikipedia.org...

www.biblelandstudios.com...

www.biblemysteries.com...

www.upf.edu...

www.puppstheories.com...

www.usac.it...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

How did they do it………?

Originally posted by andre18

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Here's an NIV version of the verse above:

Numbers 13:33

We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."

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Anak is the descendants of the Nephilim. It seems that even after the flood they still exist. So, where did they go to escape the global flood? The only way is up to space. I believe the Nephilim are the product of celestial beings or angels who went down to Earth. Now, there is no way they can reproduce, however, there is always an artificial way to produce offspring and that is through genetic manipulation. Somehow they manage to inject a modified genetic code into the woman's ovum. All it needs is for the human male to fertilize it. This produced a hybrid species which produced the Nephilim.

I believe the Nephilim to look humanoid, feel like a human being, but are vastly more intelligent and physically superior. Thats why they are called men of renown and heroes for they have godlike prowess. I believe these celestial beings created a genetic code for intelligence and physically superior human hybrid. They created for themselves a master race. A master race of aliens - the seed of fallen angels.

Now, with regards to the serpent:

Genesis 3:1

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

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Makes you wonder, why did the serpent approach Eve and not Adam? Why did the fallen angels approach women and not the men? Remember fallen angels have no reproductive organs for they are spirits, they are neither male nor female, they are neuter. I believe in order for a genetic manipulation to take place, the egg of the female is required. All is needed is for the male spermatozoa for germination.

Now, the serpent, the old dragon, satan the devil, deceived Eve and that if she learns the secret knowledge and wisdom imparted from him her eyes will be opened and she will be intellectually superior, she will be like God. I believe the serpent deceived Eve into letting him genetically modify her ovum to enable her to increase in wisdom and knowledge, thus craftily inserting his serpent code into her ovum. So, Eve, ate of it or agree with this and Adam also agreed with her and he impregnated Eve to complete the process. They were basically tempted by the lure of being like God.

After that, they realized what they have done and they felt the guilt and shame because they listened to that tree of the knowledge of good and evil - and that tree is satan. They participated in the scheme of the serpent.

Eve became pregnant with twins. One is Cain and one is Abel. If you read through Genesis, they are 2 distinct lineage - the lineage of Cain and the lineage of Seth (Abel was not counted because he was dead already and so was not able to produce children).

Now, reading Genesis 5, you'll notice that Cain was not even included in Adam's lineage even if he was the first born son. He was not considered at all. This suggest that Adam did not recognize Cain as his son as he completely knew that Cain was born out of the genetically modified ovum and Abel was of a natural birth.

Now, look at Cain's lineage in Genesis 4, you'll notice a lot of murders, but you also notice that his lineage is inventive and intelligent. Cain was the first man to build a city. To build a city you need to have a skill of an engineer and an architect. His lineage created music - the harp and flute and his lineage invented the tools for making things. This line is vastly superior in intelligence and wisdom but it is a corrupt and evil lineage. These are the men of renown. These are the mighty men or the heroes of old. Indeed this tree of the knowledge of good and evil produced such technology, but inherently evil because with that they practiced divinity, soothsaying, augury, sexual immorality, idol worshiping, astrology, superstitions, human sacrifices and the likes.

Cain was the first Nephilim on Earth. The firstborn child of a celestial being - the serpent. He is of the serpent's seed or if you want, you can term it as "the reptilian race" or "the dragon." As described:

Revelation 20:2

He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

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This 2 distinct lineage is written in Genesis 3:15 :

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."

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As you read all ancient cultures, you will always read of civilizations having advanced knowledge in science, especially in astronomy, mathematics and engineering. It is evident in the Sumerian culture. It is evident in the Mayan culture, it is evident in the Egyptian culture. These are ancient cities having knowledge more advanced in their time. You'll also notice they are so obsessed in fertility rituals. There is a need for the female to be very fertile in order for the successful propagation of this lineage.

You'll also read of a being bestowing wisdom and knowledge to men and teaching them, having a distorted account of Genesis and the Flood. It is across all cultures.

You'll also notice why the old testament of the Bible is full of killings and wars. The Israelites needed to wipe out this lineage. Some lineage are very mighty, that is why God needed to step in and wipe them all out. The Israelites were also strictly commanded not to have them as their wives as a means to prevent the propagation of the Nephilims. They were also commanded not to follow their corrupted and evil ways, and thus the need of levitical law, to teach the Israelites what is evil and to discipline them.

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niphilum is the giants of the bible and the giants of the bible are only storys of mythology and mthology is not true not real

if you say nephilum was aliens and giants then u must say all that is in the bible as true and that means that the earth was made in 7 days

and scientists say the world took many millions of years to make so the bible is rong about evry thing

Originally posted by andre18
...but I’m still looking at a few things that just can’t be seen without some (alien quality) to it……Every time I see the pyramids, it just gets at me……we are in the 21 century and we still can’t figure it out, so how come they can back 3000 years ago….? It’s like we’re being teased or something…. and don’t the pyramids point to the Orion constellation, which is where ( I think, can’t remember ) the greys or some sort of alien race is supposedly meant to be from..?

How did they do it…?

Just because we do not know how something was built, does not mean that aliens were behind it. Throughout history we have lost and later regained knowledge. Take concrete for example; techniques using forms of concrete were developed over 5000 years ago, yet for a period of almost 1500 years we lost the knowledge of how to cast concrete. It wasn't until the late 18th century the technique was rediscovered. If we hadn't rediscovered the technique, would you assume anything the ancients built with concrete was instead built by aliens?

It is not that we don't know how the Egyptians built the Great Pyramids, but rather there is no current concensus among archaeologists on a theory. There are many theories, all them demonstrate that the Egyptians did have the ability to build the pyramids. The pyramids were not meant to correspond with Orion; radio-carbon dating puts the pyramids being built around 2500 BC, much later than the 10,000 BCE date it would have had to have been built to correspond to Orion.

And if you believe the literature, the aliens come from Zeta Reticuli, which is in the Reticulum constellation, not Orion.

Originally posted by SaviorComplex
Throughout history we have lost and later regained knowledge.

Very true just like Da-Vinci, but we now are in the 21 century, we have sent men to the moon and probes to mars and out of our own solar system…..to think that we can’t even figure out how a stone made structure was made 3000 thousand years ago is a joke.

If we hadn't rediscovered the technique, would you assume anything the ancients built with concrete was instead built by aliens?

No because we can look at concrete at figure out its composition. We can look at the pyramids and figure out its composition, but the structure of the pyramids is the problem….

It is not that we don't know how the Egyptians built the Great Pyramids, but rather there is no current concensus among archaeologists on a theory.

If the greatest minds of out time can’t figure it out……something’s gota give……

Originally posted by andre18
If the greatest minds of out time can’t figure it out……something’s gota give……

It's not that we don't know how the pyramids were built, but rather we don't know the method. We know, 100%, that the Egyptians had the technology and know-how to built the Giza pyramids. We have a great idea where the quarries were, the tools they used; we've found the worker towns built around the construction of the pyramid. Where the debate comes in is the method they used to move the stones and exactly how the structures were placed. Because we do not have written archeaological evidence detailing the exact method, all we have to go on is theories, since we can never know with 100% certainty.

That is a lot different than "we have no idea how the pyramids were built" or "they have to be alien."

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i watched along time ago on tv that they used logs underneath the stones and roled the stones over the logs to make them move

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The full story untainted with age is contained within the Urantia Book pages.

Caligastia (the devil) nonphyical exruler of "earth"
Daligastia (reptilian leader)
The Urantia Book

Paper 67
THE PLANETARY REBELLION

p754:2 67:1.1 For three hundred thousand years Caligastia had been in charge of Urantia when Satan, Lucifer's assistant, made one of his periodic inspection calls. And when Satan arrived on the planet, his appearance in no way resembled your caricatures of his nefarious majesty. He was, and still is, a Lanonandek Son of great brilliance. "And no marvel, for Satan himself is a brilliant creature of light."
p754:3 67:1.2 In the course of this inspection Satan informed Caligastia of Lucifer's then proposed "Declaration of Liberty," and as we now know, the Prince agreed to betray the planet upon the announcement of the rebellion. The loyal universe personalities look with peculiar disdain upon Prince Caligastia because of this premeditated betrayal of trust. The Creator Son voiced this contempt when he said: "You are like your leader, Lucifer, and you have sinfully perpetuated his iniquity. He was a falsifier from the beginning of his self-exaltation because he abode not in the truth."

p755:3 67:2.1 Shortly after Satan's inspection and when the planetary administration was on the eve of the realization of great things on Urantia, one day, midwinter of the northern continents, Caligastia held a prolonged conference with his associate, Daligastia, after which the latter called the ten councils of Urantia in session extraordinary. This assembly was opened with the statement that Prince Caligastia was about to proclaim himself absolute sovereign of Urantia and demanded that all administrative groups abdicate by resigning all of their functions and powers into the hands of Daligastia as trustee, pending the reorganization of the planetary government and the subsequent redistribution of these offices of administrative authority.

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Yeah I’m not sure about the Urantia Book... was is not written in the 40's or 50's or something by scientists and such.......

I don't mind any helpful evidence supporting, but the Urantia Book is a little 'iffy' if you know what I mean....

But besides that i found something on the reptilians that i think is fairly interesting...

Ophiuchus formerly referred to as Serpentarius, the former originating in Greek and then later in Latin, both meaning "serpent-holder," is one of the 88 constellations and was also one of the 48 listed by Ptolemy. It is a large constellation located around the celestial equator between Aquila, Serpens and Hercules, northwest of the center of the Milky Way. The southern part lies between Scorpius to the west and Sagittarius to the east. Of the 13 zodiacal constellations (constellations that contain the Sun during the course of the year), Ophiuchus is the only one not counted as an astrological sign.

It is best visible in the northern summer and located opposite Orion in the sky. Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent; the interposition of his body divides the snake into two parts, Serpens Caput and Serpens Cauda, which are nonetheless counted as one constellation.
en.wikipedia.org...

when looking at the pictures of the zodiac,
www.mt.net...
you see the eagle (Ophiuchus) serpent holder, it got me straight away thinking about the American eagle and the reptilian taking over the world thing…..

So something like the reptilians are controlling America, etc, well that stuff has been talked about a lot I know….. But this thing is suspicious, you get my drift.



[edit on 15-12-2007 by andre18]

Working from the same archaeological discoveries, artefacts, and recovered records as archaeologists and linguists have for two hundred years, Sitchin propounds -- proves, in the opinion of this author -- that the Anunnaki (Sumerian: "those who came down from the heavens"; Old testament Hebrew, Anakeim, Nefilim, Elohim; Egyptian: Neter), an advanced civilization from the tenth planet in our solar system, splashed down in the Persian gulf area around 432,000 years ago, colonized the planet, with the purpose of obtaining large quantities of gold.

Some 250,000 years ago, the recovered documents tell us, their lower echelon miners rebelled against the conditions in the mines and the Anunnaki directorate decided to create a creature to take their place. Enki, their chief scientist and Ninhursag their chief medical officer, after getting no satisfactory results splicing animal and Homo Erectus genes, merged their Anunnaki genes with that of Homo Erectus and produced us, Homo Sapiens, a genetically bicameral species, for their purposes as slaves. Because we were a hybrid, we could not procreate. The demand for us as workers became greater and we were genetically manipulated to reproduce.

Eventually, we became so numerous that some of us were expelled from the Anunnaki city centers, gradually spreading over the planet. Having become a stable genetic stock and developing more precociously than, perhaps, the Anunnaki had anticipated, the Anunnaki began to be attracted to humans as sexual partners and children were born of these unions. This was unacceptable to the majority of the Anunnaki high council and it was decided to wipe out the human population through a flood that was predictable when Nibiru, the tenth in our solar system and the Anunnaki home planet, came through the inner solar system again (around 12,500 years ago) on one of its periodic 3600 year returns. Some humans were saved by the action of the Anunnaki official, Enki, who was sympathetic to the humans he had originally genetically created.

For thousands of years, we were their slaves, their workers, their servants, and their soldiers in their political battles among themselves. The Anunnaki used us in the construction of their palaces (we retroproject the religious notion of temple on these now), their cities, their mining and refining complexes and their astronomical installations on all the continents. They expanded from Mesopotamia to Egypt to India to South and Central America and the stamp of their presence can be found in the farthest reaches of the planet.

Around 6000 years ago, they, probably realizing that they were going to phase off the planet, began, gradually, to bring humans to independence. Sumer, a human civilization, amazing in its "sudden", mature, and highly advanced character was set up under their tutelage in Mesopotamia. Human kings were inaugurated as go-betweens, foremen of the human populations answering to the Anunnaki. A strain of humans, genetically enhanced with more Anunnaki genes, a bloodline of rulers in a tradition of "servants of the people" was initiated (Gardner). These designated humans were taught technology, mathematics, astronomy, advanced crafts and the ways of advanced civilized society (in schools, called now "mystery schools" but there was no mystery about them).

Gardner has brought to light the fact that there exists a robust, highly documented, genealogical, genetic history carrying all the way back to the Anunnaki, possessed by the heterodox tradition of Christianity, which is only now coming forward, no longer gun-shy of the Inquisition. This tradition, preserving the bloodline, is the one branded "heretical" and murderously persecuted by the Roman Church. There were no Dark Ages for this tradition, only for those whom the Church wanted to keep in the dark about the real nature of human history and destroy the bloodline, a direct threat to the power of the Bishops.

From this you can I suppose see what is expected to be understood as aliens coming here and doing stuff to us, and creating religion etc…..

I don’t know……but that damn bible verse just keeps coming back to mind

Genesis 6:1–4
When men began to multiply on earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of heaven saw how beautiful the daughters of man were, and so they took for their wives as many of them as they chose. Then the LORD said: “My spirit shall not remain in man forever, since he is but flesh. His days shall comprise one hundred and twenty years.” At that time the Nephilim appeared on earth (as well as later), after the sons of heaven had intercourse with the daughters of men, who bore them sons. They were heroes of old, men of renown.

There is absolutely no evidence, what-so-ever, for what you've just described there.

None.

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lol, yeah the post above you I just thought I’d lay down a theory of the Annunaki to get a basic point of where I’m coming from......doesn't really help does it?..........................

Anyway.....the post above that talks about the zodiac and the eagle serpent....... does that not ring any bells, eagle of America, serpent alien race ruling the world theory......sounds like some kind of connection.

Originally posted by andre18
Anyway.....the post above that talks about the zodiac and the eagle serpent....... does that not ring any bells, eagle of America, serpent alien race ruling the world theory......sounds like some kind of connection.

No, none at all. The Ophiuchus represents a man fighting a serpent; it could be anything from Asclepius to Apollo. Why would someone or something (such as an eagle) fighting a serpent somehow represent the "reptilians"? That makes no sense; you want a symbol that projects your strength, not one that shows you being killed.

And how do you draw the connection between the Great Seal of the United States and the Ophiuchus? Other than them both being eagles, what other evidence is there?

If you are going to make a connection between the Ophiuchus and a nation's symbol, perhaps you should look at the Mexican flag.

reply to post by SaviorComplex


Ok ok.....it seems you're good at disproving stuff like this......which is good for me, so when it comes to the point where I find something that you can't disprove, it’ll tell me if you can't prove me wrong I must be on the right track.....

Ok so I’ve been thinking of something else lately that does have a tangible likeness to reality I suppose…You’ve got the Mormon religion that talks about god living on another planet……and the angel that talked with Josef Smith. (angel – alien)

www.youtube.com...

Did you know battlestar galactica was writen by Mormons...

[edit on 18-12-2007 by andre18]

Originally posted by amitheone

Originally posted by andre18

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Here's an NIV version of the verse above:

Numbers 13:33

We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."

..

Anak is the descendants of the Nephilim. It seems that even after the flood they still exist. So, where did they go to escape the global flood? The only way is up to space. I believe the Nephilim are the product of celestial beings or angels who went down to Earth. Now, there is no way they can reproduce, however, there is always an artificial way to produce offspring and that is through genetic manipulation. Somehow they manage to inject a modified genetic code into the woman's ovum. All it needs is for the human male to fertilize it. This produced a hybrid species which produced the Nephilim.

I believe the Nephilim to look humanoid, feel like a human being, but are vastly more intelligent and physically superior. Thats why they are called men of renown and heroes for they have godlike prowess. I believe these celestial beings created a genetic code for intelligence and physically superior human hybrid. They created for themselves a master race. A master race of aliens - the seed of fallen angels.

Good hypothosys, but.

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

So what is this "and also after that" maybe they had sex with women afterwards?

Ok so I’ve been thinking of something else lately that does have a tangible likeness to reality I suppose…You’ve got the Mormon religion that talks about god living on another planet……and the angel that talked with Josef Smith. (angel – alien)

That is something that few Mormons believe; I do not think that is part of the teachings of the LDS church.

You are making a leap of logic to conclude that the angel Moroni is an alien, just for the fact there is no evidence supporting that. There's no evidence Smith or others saw Moroni other than their word, I know, still, we have to take at their word they believe what they saw was an angel, as they are the only witnesses.

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"others saw Moroni" huh, I didn't know other people claim witness to seeing the angel besides Joseph smith...Anyway, there are of course plenty other religions that talk about angels that I can easily link with an alien agenda...

For example the angel Gabriel that talked supposedly with Muhammad

"Muhammad claims that he tried to escape by looking around him, but everywhere he looked he saw the angel, and the angel's beating wings filled every corner of the sky, with a terrible and mighty noise. "

"beating wings " sounds like angels did have wings at leat that long ago in recorded history...

"When Allah ordains something on the Heaven the angels beat with their wings in obedience to His Statement "

"Angels keep on descending from and ascending to the heaven in turn"
Descending from heaven, sounds like coming down from the sky....heaven is the sky.......

The word “angel” actually comes from the Greek word aggelos, which means “messenger.” The matching Hebrew word mal'ak has the same meaning.

"Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation." angel is flying whom is a man and is human looking.

"22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding."

Skill and understanding, so the angels as messengers are teaching humans knowledge, making them smarter and such. Eg teaching humans how to build cities and civilisations like Sumerian culture, after living in a cave for hundreds of thousands of years all of a sudden making structures.

also …….A fallen angel…
The origin of the term lies in the Hebrew word for giants. The Hebrew word translated as giants here is nephilim, a plural, which itself derives from the root word Naphal, which means to fall. The apocryphal Book of Enoch explains that a group of rebellious angels "left their first estate" (heaven, or the sky) and came down (fell) to Earth to marry human women and have children with them. Jude makes mention of these angels in the New Testament:
en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by andre18
Anyway, there are of course plenty other religions that talk about angels that I can easily link with an alien agenda...

"beating wings " sounds like angels did have wings at leat that long ago in recorded history...

"Angels keep on descending from and ascending to the heaven in turn"
Descending from heaven, sounds like coming down from the sky....heaven is the sky.......

I think you need to go back and read my previous posts. I never said angels did not have wings. In their natural forms, they are described as having wings, sometimes multiple sets. However, in their human forms, they appear as normal, albeit beautiful, humans.

How can you easily link angels to an "alien agenda"? The only evidence, and I mean that in the lighest since of the word, is circumstancial. Since angels come from the sky, and aliens come from the sky, then they must be related. But Andre, other things come from the sky too. Bugs fly. Birds fly. Bats fly. You have as much evidence that angels are giant intelligent birds that you do thinking they are aliens from beyond the stars.

You have as much evidence that angels are giant intelligent birds that you do thinking they are aliens from beyond the stars.

You know...that's probably true, but that's why I’m just throwing ideas out there, theories and such. With no strong evidence I guess they're just bad theories.....

But....anyway...onto more important things......my good old theories....
forget the biblical angels......I guess you've seen the aboriginal cave paintings......

musicmoz.org...

www.broome6.com.au...

have a read of these....

www.netscientia.com...

www.project1947.com...



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I guess you've seen the aboriginal cave paintings......

Ah yes, Wondjina. Creepy looking things.

They are rain-spirits, and while they look like the traditional Grey aliens, that is just a coincidence. They apparently had skull-like faces, so those giant "eyes" aren't eyes but eyeless sockets. Also, the Wondjina did not have limbs; the Greys are never described as being limbless. If the aborigines did have contact with aliens, why would they describe them as being limbless?