Does the Capital Dome symbolize the entrance to Hades?

Originally posted by stompk

War

Armored Freedom, sword raised and cape flying, with a helmet and shield reminiscent of those on the Statue of Freedom, tramples Tyranny and Kingly Power; she is assisted by a fierce eagle carrying arrows and a thunderbolt.

perhaps the female warrior is representative of the many
Revolutionary War Heroines...

Emily Geiger
Deborah Sampson
Rosanna Farrow
Idella Bodie
Ann Story
Molly Pitcher www.myhero.com...
(just to mention a few)


Related:
www.rootsweb.com...




the artist was commissioned to blend the Classical/neo-classical with the contemporary,
no hidden code meanings imo,
but you have laid out an exceptional & compelling story.


[edit on 6-12-2007 by St Udio]

Remember this picture?



I thought they were stalks of wheat. I was wrong.

Way wrong.

"America and History" - The first panel contains the only allegorical figures in the frieze. America, wearing a liberty cap, stands in the center with her spear and shield. To her right sits an Indian maiden with a bow and arrows, representing the untamed American continent. Also at America's feet is a female figure representing History, who holds a stone tablet to record events as they occur. An American eagle perches on a fasces (a bundle of rods symbolizing the authority of government). The man in the background to their right is in the same pose as the prospector at the end of "Discovery of Gold in California," since Brumidi planned to have this scene connect with his last one.

Keep in mind, each painting had to be approved by Congress.

This is what Wiki says about the Fasces

The traditional Roman fasces consisted of a bundle of birch rods tied together with a red ribbon as a cylinder. One interpretation of the symbolism suggests that despite the fragility of each independent single rod, as a bundle they exhibit strength. Wartime symbolism added an axe amongst the rods.

Numerous governments and other authorities have used the image of the fasces as a symbol of power since the end of the Roman Empire. Italian fascism, which derives its name from the fasces, arguably used this symbolism the most in the 20th century. The British Union of Fascists also used it in the 1930s. However, unlike for example the swastika, the fasces have avoided the stigma associated with fascist symbolism, and many authorities continue to display them

And I wanted to add;

The fasces was a symbol of authority in ancient Rome. It was later adopted as an emblem by Mussolini's fascist party during World War two, and is the origin of the word "fascist."

Source


Have I raised any eyebrows yet. Well, I'm just getting started.



[edit on 6-12-2007 by stompk]

reply to post by Anubis Kanubis


This part I'm still working on. But I will give you a hint.



Source of 2nd image. (interesting read)

Guess what's at the eye of the dividers?

The Dome, or Naval.

Guess what is underneath the Dome, or entrance to Hades.

Meet, the Crypt.

The large circular area on the first floor of the Capitol is called the Crypt. The forty Doric columns of brown stone surmounted by groined sandstone arches support the floor of the Rotunda. This center section of the building was completed in 1827 under the direction of the third Architect of the Capitol, Charles Bulfinch. The star in the center of the floor denotes the point from which the streets in Washington are laid out and numbered.

you are really reaching here. everything youve pointed out were common themes in art, architecture, and sculpting from the middle ages to the gilded age.

So, the center of the crypt is definitely and important place in American history.

The crypt of the United States capitol was designed to hold the body of George Washington. It is also the centerpiece of Washington, D.C., since it is the dividing point for the quadrants of the city. The founding fathers envisioned a far greater role that was never realized. Inset in the center of the crypt is a brass compass rose, the location for the New Republic’s new prime meridian to replace the Greenwich prime meridian. From this point all distances would be measured including a one-mile standard established between the compass rose and a massive column to be constructed exactly one mile east of the Capitol. From it would be surveyed all lines for future states.

The Initiated Eye

I think you are doing a good job of collecting symbolism surrounding the government. I love symbolism and believe it communicates something and that some of it is put there intentionally. (The only thing we wont agree in is that I dont think its indicative of evil).

its amazing to see how much our government is interested in symbolism. From all of the Babylonian symbolism at Bohemian Grove, and around the Capital. Its amazing to hear how these gods and goddesses were portrayed in ancient texts and how relevant it is to our times..

Capitol is the house of fascists, bushes grandpa was a nazi everyone or lets say most know about this, he wanted to do a coup in the USA nazi style, also most know that the usa funded the nazis in germany, becouse actually they all wanted a NEW WORLD ORDER, more or less thats why you see many roman things in capitol hill and so white house etc, they are masons, hitler was a mason, etc etc you can find all about it on the net and no its no BS

reply to post by stompk


Interesting post.
I think you'll be interested in this previous post here on ATS as well, especially the section on measurements around the National Mall and capitol.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Fascinating thread, I am intrigued by George Washington in 'heaven' with fifteen women, two of them have been explained, who are the others?
There must be an explanation, can anyone enlighten me here?
Mystified,
Horsegiver.

reply to post by stompk


I still don't see any evidence of conspiracy, and you have provided no evidence to refute my previous post, so I guess I'll move on to your next one.

You keep using symbols without regard to time or place. The use of a fasces has no connection between the U.S. and fascism as you describe it because it was not used by modern day movements until after the symbol was already integrated into our architecture. That it was used in Rome is completely unsurprising, since much of our capital architecture is based off of Rome. There is no conspiracy in that, just the need by the architects to convey a sense of power and authority - what else would you EXPECT a national capital to convey? Concurrently, all this assumes that wikipedia is accurate (since that is what you rely on to explain symbols) - which I highly question. In any case, the point remains.

Your next post about the square and compass seems highly questionable, at best. The shape of a square and compass itself and the fact that it is not a closed shape means that you can find it hundreds or maybe even thousands of cities, because streets are laid out in lines that crisscross, and they don't always come in at perfect right angles. Additionally what you did was arbitrarily define the starting and ending points of the shape - all this proves so far is you wanted to find a square and compass in the city streets - and behold, you have done so. I could just as easily find an "S" shape in the streets by picking random points (and one of the points is bound to fall on a building of importance - this is, after all, Washington). Does this mean that there is evidence OF A S-TORMPK CONSPIRACY IN THE CAPITAL STREETS?

My eyebrow is yet to be raised.

reply to post by LightinDarkness


Well, since you have told me you are a Mason, this doesn't surprise me.

How could you possibly ignore all the Greek references, from the gov. website itself.

Why do you think they names the Tholos the way they did?

How about showing some counter evidence, to prove me wrong.

Stompk,

That's some pretty good Bull Sh.!!!

It must have taken you quite a lot of time to come up with all of this.

So, If I understand you, all the buildings, statues and basically all of my nations Capitol is "hell"?

Why don't you just come out and say the U.S. Government is evil???

This is all you people can come up with. Thank God none of our founding fathers are alive to see this trash.

They envisioned something grand, something that was never tried before, they had dreams and goals and ideas of living successful, productive lives.

And this is what you people do. You chew it up, spit is out and step on it, by calling it the entrence to Hell.

And this is why the U.S.A. is still the Greatest place on the face of the Earth - because you can have your "opinion" and I can have mine.

And this is from a Masonic site.

Vinnie Ream was the most prominent American female sculptor of the 19th century. She received the coveted job of producing a life-size marble statue of Abraham Lincoln in 1866 that stands in the United States Capitol rotunda and the bronze statue of Admiral Farragut in Farragut Square. Albert Pike was a philosopher, jurist, orator, poet, scholar, soldier, author of many of the rituals of Freemasonry and Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite Masons.

They met around 1868 when Pike settled in Washington. Both were ambitious and charismatic. Interestingly, Pike generated a series of freemasonic rituals intended for women and initiated Ream into the Masonic fraternity.

The Octagon Museum pic #10

Originally posted by stompk
Remember this picture?

I thought they were stalks of wheat. I was wrong.

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Fasces (IPA: /ˈfæsiːz/, a plurale tantum, from the Latin word fascis, meaning "bundle"[1]) symbolize summary power and jurisdiction, and/or "strength through unity ."

From www.foundingfathers.info...
Don't Tread on Me


The history of the Gadsden flag and how the rattlesnake became a symbol of American independence

Franklin sketched, carved, and published the first known political cartoon in an American newspaper. It was the image of a snake cut into eight sections. The sections represented the individual colonies and the curves of the snake suggested the coastline. New England was combined into one section as the head of the snake. South Carolina was at the tail. Beneath the snake were the ominous words "Join, or Die."

Fricken awesome topic, love the pictures,

Of course since the beginning of civilization the gods have been in control, they set up Kings and Kingdoms and the tear them down.

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It has nothing to do with hell, IMHO.

It is lovely just lovely, the beauty of the ancient cultures.

reply to post by LightinDarkness



Lightinthedarkness, your name says it all, thank you for the enlightening post.

Originally posted by stompk
Well, since you have told me you are a Mason, this doesn't surprise me.

Well, since you have demonstrated you are clearly a anti-mason, this doesn't surprise me.

Originally posted by stompkhow could you possibly ignore all the Greek references, from the gov. website itself.

What? It has greek and roman references - no one disputes this. What's the point - where is the conspiracy? Since the empires of Greece and Rome, EVERY nation has used their symbolism because doing so creates a subliminal message of power.

Originally posted by stompkhow about showing some counter evidence, to prove me wrong.

This shows you have no evidence, as this is an ad ignorantium logical fallacy. You have brought the charges, it is up to you to prove them. Using logical fallacies to defend yourself shows weakness your argument.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Thanks Storm, I try my best =) I have an open mind, but I think this is clearly a case where people look so hard, they find what they want to find.