"TEAM ATS" Is in Roswell, New Mexico TODAY, 11/29/2007

Go ATS team Hope everything unfolds well.

...please pardon the x2 post; found another interview w/ Stone where he talks about the 'aliens' some more, check this:

UU: Do you feel there's a war going on perhaps between different types of aliens?

"CS: Yes, I do. I believe what is presently termed the 'greys' may very well be the (entities) that the U.S. government has the pact with right now, and they are not necessarily the 'good guys.'

"UU: Do you feel that these grey guys are evil?

"CS: O.K., this is supposition. One gentleman who was doing research into it reported a military intrusion on an alien base, right here in New Mexico. Well, the military tried to go in and take over the base (It was mentioned that a similar event took place in Nevada). Sixty-six servicemen were supposedly killed there...

"UU: Where did you derive the idea that our government is making deals with aliens? What gave you this type of notion?

"CS: The Snowbird document. This document refers to us making primitive contact with the aliens in 1959. On April 25, 1964, we managed to carry on a 3 hour conversation which was the onset of the agreement at a base here in New Mexico. I believe that base was Holloman Air Force Base. The agreement involving an exchange of technology and our silence...

"UU: When you were describing that there are approximately 3 different types of hostile aliens from Zeta Reticuli, would you describe further what you mean by that?

"CS: At present time, I believe that the government has identified several groups. We break these down by EBE() type 1,2,3 - I think we are about up to 7 that have been identified... seven types of space travelers, or inter-dimensional travelers, if you wish. When I refer to inter-dimensional travel, I am referring, utilizing the Einstein-Rosen bridges for that travel...

www.v-j-enterprises.com...

Well, these are some pretty strong claims, and my point exists in the fact that Snowbird has been mentioned aka Project Aquarius in relation to MJ12 & Serpo, throughly debunked in these parts for years. So, what's up w/ the truth side of things lately?

"Aquarius Project @ Serpo"
www.serpo.org...

"The Aquarius Project"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Majestic 12 and The Secret Government"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Lastly, when we're, now, dealing w/ MJ12, will this take Danny Burisch, whom people love calling a hoaxer at ATS, into account seriously? Not that Clifford Stone mentions him, but the MJ12 'documents' have been speculated to be fake and now, I've been noticing a lot of Snowbird/Aquarius 'fake' documentation as well. Personally, I think MJ12 exists, w/ or without Burischs' inclusion; Serpo could very well be real w/ Close Encounters serving as a 'disclosure' kind of movie.

I think we need to push this/these thread(s) w/ researched posts more to prove that ATS is a contender for 'breaking' news, but w/ an informative edge.


[edit on 2-12-2007 by anhinga]

Originally posted by Riposte


For example, the Wilbert Smith memo from 1951, is a memo released from the Canadian Archives that unequivocally states that flying saucers exist.

209.132.68.98...

Has this document been authenticated by the Canadian government? If so, it is very compelling evidence.

[edit on 2-12-2007 by Terrylynn]

reply to post by Springer

i hope for the best and i want the best for you .i just hope that msm? and microsoft? like you better than they or their imitators?like me because whoever they are (nwo)? or their counterparts sure give my wife and i a hard enough time trying to search for the truth on the internet----or when we express our opinions /or at least try to.our personal computer here at home goes thru some weird spasms at times when we get on websites such as israelinsider or arutzsheva=israelnationalnews in israel and now even haaretz that didnt act strange till lately is acting weird when we try to get on it.

I find myself very intrigued with this investigation.

The more updates, the better.

Indeed. I lately find myself coming to ATS just to peruse any updates in this thread. The suspense is killing me!

It Would be so great to finally have proof . Good luck & becareful

Hey team!
Good to hear you got back safely, How's Crackurs arm? (did they get the chewing gum out?)
Just a thought, did you find any unusual stores requesitions, I am not talking Roswell, but maybe Sudan or wherever this particular investigation is taking you.

When I was on HMS Albion (in 1971) we were in the Arabian Gulf, all of a sudden we were taking on heaps of nuclear and Bio protective clothing, (via Muscat & Oman RAF base)
The paper trail was horrendeuos. Stores dockets can be very useful when back tracking.
Just my two penneth!


[edit on 3-12-2007 by Havalon]

more support springer,this site is showing its strength by searching into the official secrets act, i take my hat off to you. With the technology available throughout the world,i see no excuse for governments to hide behind it,when politicians are swore into office,they are not only to be truthful,they should be NON deceitful,if they can,t ,dont vote em in,when trillions of dollars cannot be accounted for, the people who are paying their taxes should be the ones to judge not senior people in office, keep up the good work ,mike

reply to post by Springer

So, can you guys sleep at night other than due to exhaustion? LOL! If I were you I'd be feeling like a kid before Christmas Sounds like far too much excitement to me and I hope, as I'm sure we all do, that it all comes to fruition.

I'll be very interested to see which MSM org goes for the exclusive. I'm sure you'll be letting us know everything as it happens even if you need to leave out certain relevant details for a while.

I for one am extremely excited to see the evidence that has been compiled. i have had little doubt that our government has been hiding allot more than balloons. The policy of government to vilify eyewitnesses and dismiss sightings as hallucinations and mass hysteria is ridiculous. To those who believe all that is shoved down their throats by media and government lackeys are fearful of reality. I am looking forward to additional evidence

I ditto all the posts about great job and anticipation. I even re-watched the Roswell stuff on You Tube to recap. Really sad that this cover up happened, but wouldn't we all be a little surprised if it turns out it was for our own good? Hope not.

On a side note, does anyone know of any research done by any of the members here, of a "technology timeline" after 1947? Would be interesting to check out. Figure reverse engineering time, testing, then bringing that technology out in the open, obviously for military use first. How many "firsts" has the US experienced in technology, and in what fields ;-) Just thinking out loud!

Great job guys, now get us some stuff we can take to the bank and CASH!!

reply to post by knows_but_doesnt


This is an exert from Bells own site... Bell Labs (Who really invented the transistor)

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Alien efforts

However, an entirely different origin has been proposed by Jack Shulman, president of the American Computer Company. Frankly, his theory is pretty fantastic but it makes a rattling good read if nothing else. Here's what he says...

I grew up in the household of the head of Bell Labs, so I knew that there was something strange about the transistor because I knew Bill Shockley, and Bill Shockley was something of a witless buffoon. There's no way he could have invented the transistor.

The symbol for the transistor is made up of three pieces: positive, positive and negative; or negative, negative and positive...silicon dioxide doped with arsenic and boron, in 1947. Now, in 1947, doping things with boron was not easy. It required the sort of equipment that even Bell Labs in 1946 did not possess. They had this type of equipment at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories, but it would have taken thousands and thousands and thousands of man-hours to invent the transistor.

If you look back at it historically, what AT&T was claiming was that one day this "genius", William Shockley, was working with a rectifier; he looked at it and he noticed it had unusual propensities, and there, bingo, he invented the transistor! He figured it out right there!

Anybody believe that story? Me neither. And I knew, because the administrative head of the transistor project was Jack Morton—the man at whose house I was staying to go to school and whose sons I was friends with. He often commented on the fact that it was really a shame that those three idiots got responsibility for the transistor and he didn't.

Mr Shulman goes on to claim that the transistor's real origin lies in technology recovered by the US Air Force from an alien spacecraft recovered at Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. It's extremely controversial stuff and contrary to all received wisdom—but quite amusing of you don't take it too seriously. Let’s move on rapidly, back down to earth and to minerals in particular.

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Hey.. come on... GUYS.... this is on BELLS own site...!!!

They are coming straight in a crooked way... But still bakin' the beans!! And there is way toooo much detail for it just.. dissing... the story..??!! (My opinion)....

I have seen years ago mid 90's a supposed foto of the 3d crystal cicuitry that they were retro-engenering...????

True/false...?? I wasn't there....

In the face of the evidence of a "technological timeline" that had such a "Steep" increase in NEW technologies...?? All is possible... But what is PROBABLE??? timing, in who's hands it ended up etc. etc...

The world is round so it give us lots of possiblities to express our ideas, dreams, thoughts, desires.....Probably the future is nothing like what we think, hope or dream and is probably crazier, better and even further "wayout" than we could imagine...

Lets just keep on what we're all doing all the hard work needed (WITH A SMILE!?!) and see were we end up...!!!

Thanks for the "mad" company on this crazy ride!!

JTG

reply to post by HolyHell422


That's very interesting indeed, but it isn't Bell's site.

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...no comment on the 'Bell' stuff, haven't looked through the link yet... ATS, what is the status of this Cliff Stone visit? Are we going to know something soon? Can you give a vague ETA as per when to expect some news/more FOIA releases?

reply to post by anhinga



more to come on Stone. We went there for specific reasons, we believe we found what we were looking for. Over the course of the next few weeks we will be exploring several options we now have with regards to the docs and, in the meantime, the members working on the FOIA docs will continue putting up more from the archives for your perusal.

Once we know what approach we are taking with regards to the Roswell visit and the info we gleaned from that visit, we will update the members but you won't be seeing specifics in advance of anyone else. For an explanation into this thinking, see Springer's previous posts in this thread.

reply to post by Havalon


Hey Havalon I was just admiring your Icon....

And I noticed the "deny ignorance"....

If I may, without offneding you, "break your **lls" in the spirit of "jesting"??!!

.........To "deny ignorance" would be to remain ignorant.......

When one is in denail of a thing, we than, are unable to accept the denial and do something about it!!

! ! ! ! ! ? ? ? ? ? ? ! ! ! ! MAYBE YOU WANT TO DEFY IGNORANCE ! ! ! ! ! ? ? ? ? ? ? ! ! ! !



EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT WE ARE PRETTY MUCH IGNORAMUSES (? spelling ? ) ALL OF US!!!

I am (of course :@@ personally working on accepting my denial of ignorance and have pretty much accepted that as long as I avoid denying my denial, of ignorance, than there is HOPE for this pooooooorrrrr oooollllldddd sssooouuullll...!!!

HEY Havalon... Still friends!!??!!

HERE'S A CHEARS TO LEARNING SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY!!!

reply to post by Crakeur


Thanks for the update Crakeur, so, judging from this & Springer's initial post, I imagine you're still talking to the MSM as per any 'big news'?

I'm eagerly awaiting what was found out in Roswell, NM -- & thanks for the hard work I know you're all putting into this -- it's appreciated!!

Thanks Hell422 for the info. Something tells me, as with all "crime" dramas, if you follow the trail of evidence you will eventually find what you are looking for.

As far as the transistor, and I'm no electronics guru by far, but that seems so simple and non-techy in terms of space travel. I think more along the lines of light technologies, such as lasers and fiber optics, LED's, or metals such as the titanium and fiber stuff.

Anyway, I'm glued to the thread, waiting, waiting, and I know it's going to be some time, which is a bummer. Oh well.

reply to post by anhinga


we've yet to begin any talks but they won't discuss anything if it is all already available for public consumption, thus the secrecy here. Would be kinda cool to post "Sunday at 7 eastern, on 60 minutes, the 3 amigos and cliff stone sit down with .... to discuss disclosure, ATS and the truth that is now in here"


reply to post by HolyHell422


have you not noticed the site motto? Deny Ignorance.