"TEAM ATS" Is in Roswell, New Mexico TODAY, 11/29/2007

Gee Lex, nothing ventured, nothing gained. While there isn't a high probability of success in certain areas of investigations, there is always the chance.

And for anything to be found, here or elsewhere, will be a stroke of blind luck anyway. So there's no reason not to check out whatever is available.

Besides, New Mexico ski season starts before too long, so maybe they can get a few days on the slopes.

Originally posted by NGC2736

Gee Lex, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I agree.

While there isn't a high probability of success in certain areas of investigations, there is always the chance.

Yeah, I guess there's a chance OJ
is innocent, too.

anything to be found, here or elsewhere, will be a stroke of blind luck anyway.

Correct. But, I predict nothing will be
found.

, New Mexico ski season starts before too long, so maybe they can get a few days on the slopes.

I think this cuts to the heart
of the matter.

A free vacation.

C'mon TEAM ATS.

I want some ski shots.

Or, something validating the expenditure.

(God, I sound like Bill)

Regards,
Lex

"Tens of thousands" of documents? Amazing, so you're there 'speeding up' the FOIA process? Looking for goodies?

Any news on the HUGE thing that supposedly landed in Sudan?

Ask Cliff about that Project Camelot interview, where he says there's 57 alien species; I recommend anybody to check out that interview, it's a good read/watch.

Also, he mentioned in that interview that by 2016 the public would "have to" be told of a probe that visits Earth? Could he be more specific?

How long are you going to be there?

[edit on 29-11-2007 by anhinga]

I like to say something and maybe I can get some feedback. Recently, since Dennis Kucinich answered the questions about if he saw a UFO. He referred to Carter as seeing one as well to point out he was not the only President seeing one.

So the next night, I see Carter on television talking about Habitat for Humanity and then they pop in the UFO question. He said he did see an unidentified flying object but he specifically said "I do not believe in ET's visiting us from another world(s)"

So this open ended statement tells me a couple of things.

1. He said this to save the face of the Democratic Party from being smeared as nutty conspiracy UFO freaks.
2.He knows a little something and believe that UFO's were constructed or back engineered by our Military Industrial Complex with ET technology and artifacts. (Rosewell or Aztech Incident could be a start)

Next on my question list is how come no one ever talks about Ronald Regan claiming to have 2 experiences with UFO's?

I watched this program about UFO and Presidents on the History Channel. They said Ronald Regan saw his first UFO as Governor of California while driving to a celebrity party hosted by Lucy Ball. The second one was when he was on his private jet as Governor and told the pilot to follow it. They followed it for 30 minutes before it shot straight up into space.

Not one media person recently will bring up Ronald Reagan experiences with UFO's, Why?

Is it because he is a Republican? Maybe because it would turn off their voting pool?

What do you think?

The best of luck to you ATS team. Sometimes it merely takes a unique individual with the right background to put the pieces of a puzzle together that previous researchers completely missed.

You know what I do not understand about the government and aliens or extraterrestrials is that if there is some massive government conspiracy to shield the world from the possibility of other lifeforms. Who cares, Unless you have some aliens in a museum or something, then its tangible thrill is gone. But even then, it's still kind of like maybe boring or something. I like looking at stuff in museums too and it was always interesting but even to an extent what I think is great art may not be as interesting as what other people determine to be good art. Who really wants to see the Mona Lisa smile. But overall the experience of viewing stuff in the museum is not all that is cracked up to be. The museum of fine arts and the museum of natural science usually have cool stuff. I remember seeing an austrian exibit featuring suits of armor and stuff from that age.

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if only you knew how speculative science is....

27 dimensions in the superstring theory,oh wait its 7,no 13?
gravity a particle?,a wave,illusion,indentations in space time?

pentaquark?,qaurkstars?,bose einstien condensate? all were wild theories and are now true.

all knowledge has gained through speculative thought,there is no other way.

remember never sail to the edge of the ocean,or youl just fall off.

Originally posted by WeAreConnected
You know what I do not understand about the government and aliens or extraterrestrials is that if there is some massive government conspiracy to shield the world from the possibility of other lifeforms. Who cares, Unless you have some aliens in a museum or something, then its tangible thrill is gone. But even then, it's still kind of like maybe boring or something. I like looking at stuff in museums too and it was always interesting but even to an extent what I think is great art may not be as interesting as what other people determine to be good art. Who really wants to see the Mona Lisa smile. But overall the experience of viewing stuff in the museum is not all that is cracked up to be. The museum of fine arts and the museum of natural science usually have cool stuff. I remember seeing an austrian exibit featuring suits of armor and stuff from that age.

precisely,your only interested in entertainment and pleasure,thats why your species is in such a sorry state.

Originally posted by Lexion
Talk to the people who were in
the military, at the time.

If they have passed, talk to the
families.

And if the people who were in the military at the time say they saw aliens?
You ignore their testimony.

And if the families of the people who were in the military at the time but are now dead, say they were told they saw aliens? You ignore their testimony because "they weren't there" or their husband/father/etc "made it up".

reply to post by Springer
This is the true nature of profesional journalism when one goes to the source.
I congratualate you on this your quest on which you have my deepest envy, but then again it is my belief that you are there for all of us.
Hit that ground running and GOD SPEED.

I applaud and envy the ATS Team in Roswell for their efforts
but I have to be a skeptic also. I don't think the efforts will
generate anything other than what other prior UFO private
researchers have uncovered already which is a total
run-around. Our military is just not ready to give up
the game to the Ufologist yet. But I still keep my fingers
crossed in any event.

The momentum is here....ATS team make us proud.

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WRONG!

You shouldn't let the BS you read/hear or imagine deter you from the possibility of the TRUTH being available.

I am too tired to go into details and simply can't here anyway (MSM rules, see the OP) but if you believe I won't lie to you (I would never) then BELIEVE we have something(s) that don't require you, me or Clifford Stone to be real. They're called the USG's OWN BLOODY DOCUMENTS, originals, with FULL/COMPLETE evidence trails and providence...

I am going to bed, it's been a 14 hour marathon that has been TRULY AMAZING.

Stay Tuned.

Springer...

edit for speeling

[edit on 11-30-2007 by Springer]

SPRINGER,

This is a great thread, thanks for starting it. So many times I have flown over where you are now, looked down, and imagined what it would be like to go back in time and witness...

You may know the Airways, the civilian Airways, are built far South of the White Sands Range...so we have to go slightly out of our way between Texas and Los Angeles. A real example of -- 'don't ask, don't tell' -- maybe that's where the phrase was invented?

Best...

Good Hunting!


Far be it for me to tell anybody how to do their job, but I must agree:

Do look into the personnel who were present at the relevent events.


Documents may be altered, redacted and/or purposely "euphamized" to mis-lead and mis-direct. But very often small details are over-looked as being "irrelevent" to the truth the "Official editor " was seeking to hide.

Things like where, when or what conditions were existant. What, sometimes specialized, equipment was utilized and where that equipment originated.

And often, most telling, who was in attndence, where they came from, where they went, and how long they were present.

Of course, sometimes the most valuable information come not from the officials and their reports, but from the "grunts" who picked up the debris, loaded the trucks, rode in the convoys, the clerks who typed up the offical reports and the contractors who supplied the materiel.

These seemingly "unimportant" details may often lead to other documents which add to the "weight" of supporting evidence.

Sometimes they even suggest previously unexplored avenues of investigation; avenues no one has yet had a chance to cover up.


Springer and company, remember the O'Hare incident:

You may not get an "official" to admit the presence of a "flying saucer", but you can get him to squirm under scrutiny by forcing him to justify his documented actions (or lack of action!) in the forum of public opinion.

Originally posted by danx
And if the people who were in the military at the time say they saw aliens?
You ignore their testimony.

And if the families of the people who were in the military at the time but are now dead, say they were told they saw aliens? You ignore their testimony because "they weren't there" or their husband/father/etc "made it up".

Extremely intelligent post, danx. Factually correct also, when you read the lengths that some skeptics will go to, to discredit an eyewitness.

Good hunting, team ATS! Please keep us informed of all the juicy bits when you sort through them.

Well Done!

Originally posted by Springer
we have something(s) that don't require you, me or Clifford Stone to be real. They're called the USG's OWN BLOODY DOCUMENTS, originals, with FULL/COMPLETE

Awesome –

I congratulate you guys for making those Documents available to us.
I’m sure all the efforts will pay off.
Let’s make Clifford Stone’s dream come true… and with this enlighten the masses…

I’m looking forward to ‘dig’ into some of the documents...

Originally posted by TheInfamousOne
He said he did see an unidentified flying object but he specifically said "I do not believe in ET's visiting us from another world(s)"

Next on my question list is how come no one ever talks about Ronald Regan claiming to have 2 experiences with UFO's?

Not one media person recently will bring up Ronald Reagan experiences with UFO's, Why?

Is it because he is a Republican? Maybe because it would turn off their voting pool?

Firstly, Carter may know the name of a specific race that may be visiting us, therefore he can deny anything about ET's as he has knowledge of their existence. An English person doesn't go to the US and get called an alien.
Either that or, like you said, he was just saving face.

Reagan did make several comments about ET's.

the President leaned over, clapped Spielberg on the shoulder, and quietly commented, "You know, there aren’t six people in this room who know how true this really is."

www.presidentialufo.com...

Before the United Nations General Assembly: " In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment," said Reagan, "we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you," he went on, "is not an alien threat already among us ? What could be more alien to universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?"

www.geocities.com...

I hope that has helped answer your question a little. you've got a couple of links there now too, so you can read up on the full articles.

I saw my first UFO when I was 10yrs. old, I've had experiences prior to that and they have continued throught my life. I was lucky enough to capture a UFO on film that made the front page of a newspaper and Mr. Dodd (man from British MOD) took that same photo on national TV. I have been a part of several UK UFO groups and contributed towards data and research for UFO magazine, Nexus magazine and several others.

I have continued to see and experience other things and wait patiently for more. What I have seen I cannot doubt.

Good luck to everyone down there at Roswell. Hope you're having a great time...

Reagan Goes to Roswell



It feels good to be here in the land of enchantment and far away from a place of disenchantment on the banks of the Potomac. Jack (Schmitt), are you sure you want to go back there? [Laughter] Of course, having once been an astronaut, Jack Schmitt is probably the only one who feels at home there; because Washington is in orbit most of the time about one thing or another. [Laughter]

You know, when he was first elected he Senate, he probably thought that, like E.T., [A character in the movie ``E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial.''] he had landed on another planet. He was one of the few among those alien big spenders, big taxers, who was working to bring economic order to our nation.

More important than the alien comments made by President Reagan, was the place that he made them - the Roswell Industrial Air Center - formally known as the Walker Air Force Base. It was at this base in 1947 where the wreckage and bodies of the Roswell flying saucer were rumored to have been taken from the crash outside of town.

Furthermore, Reagan made his speech near Hanger 84, which was the rumored hanger that was used to store UFO wreckage and/or bodies in July 1947. Like his famous speech at the Berlin wall where Reagan asked Gorbachev to "tear down this wall," the speech at the Roswell Hanger where the UFO mystery began was typical Reagan symbolism.

www.presidentialufo.com...

Mark..Stephen..I'm with you there in spirit.Good luck my friends.

as you can probably tell, I love Roswell
I'm rooting for you all the way, look forward to seeing results soon.
if they don't give you the files give 'em the old one two



Roswell.