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Originally posted by twitchy
Originally posted by AMTMAN
I work on commerical aircraft for a living. So why don't you educate me on how this remote takeover worked.
Ok so since you must have a working if not profound knowledge of the flight systems in question here, why don't you educate me on how you come to the conclusion that a remote take over is impossible given those I listed in my previous post?
Edit: By the way, that was a Yes Or No question...
I'll ask you again...
Originally posted by twitchy
Have you ever heard of a Fully Integrated Flight Management Computer System? Soft Walls? Fully Programmable GPS-Based Navigation Systems? Ground Based Control Inputs? Fully Autonomous Flight Capability? Computerised Pilot Assistance/Override? Flight Control Rotor Actuation System?
[edit on 29-11-2007 by twitchy]
Originally posted by AMTMAN
The problem is that people like you in your ignorance do not take into account some very important points. One, the Global Hawk was built from the ground up with remote control in mind. The 757/767 was not. Two that 707 you like to point out was heavily modified for remote control. It took a team of engineers and a lot of manhours to accomplish this.
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by AMTMAN
The problem is that people like you in your ignorance do not take into account some very important points. One, the Global Hawk was built from the ground up with remote control in mind. The 757/767 was not. Two that 707 you like to point out was heavily modified for remote control. It took a team of engineers and a lot of manhours to accomplish this.
I fully understand what you guys say about the 757 and 767 not being built for it. Could the flights possibly have NOT been 767's and 757's? Since none of the so-called wreckage fits either, I'd say yes. Unless you can prove that the plane parts found are from the flights they say they were from.
Prove it.
Ignorance indeed. It's bliss isn't it?
[edit on 11/29/2007 by Griff]
[edit on 11/29/2007 by Griff]
www.911-strike.com...
Originally posted by AMTMAN
Give us your "expert" opinion in commercial aviation.
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by AMTMAN
Give us your "expert" opinion in commercial aviation.
Nope. I'm asking for YOURS. You prove it. You're the avionics expert right?
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by AMTMAN
Give us your "expert" opinion in commercial aviation.
Nope. I'm asking for YOURS. You prove it. You're the avionics expert right?
Originally posted by AMTMAN
This is absolutely amazing. Vidoe of two aircraft hitting the WTC. Pictures of wrekage at the Pentagon. Both AA and UAL are short a 757 and 767. Yet I'm the one who has to provide proff. Not the guy who says it wasn't a 757 or a 767.
Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Stop asking other members for a reason to post. POST! Volunteer the goods, already...!
Originally posted by Griff
If you have information that I don't, I'd appreciate it. If not, then how dare you say that they are. Come on. Prove it and I'll shut up. Til then, you guys are blowing smoke screens out of your ass.
Originally posted by Boone 870
reply to post by Spoodily
I'm challenging this theory on the assumption that all the phone calls were faked. That would mean everyone from all the flights would have had their voices recorded for 10 to 15 minutes for the software to be able to work properly.
Can you imagine how much time and effort it would take to record samples of all the voices heard that day? How would the perpetrators know what numbers to call and who would be answering the phones. If no one answered the phone, how would they know what other numbers to call and who would be entering them?
It seems highly improbable to me.
Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Thank you for noticing my ass, though...
Originally posted by Spoodily
I'm getting the impression that some people think 9-11-2001 was planned on 9-10-2001.
originally posted by Spoodily
Looking up a sample of your voice is as simple as sending your phone bill to the correct house. Computers do amazing things, one of which is storing and retrieving data.
I'm getting the impression that some people think 9-11-2001 was planned on 9-10-2001.
Lisa Beamer, Todd Beamer's wife: He and I had just gotten back from Italy Monday afternoon, and he decided he wanted to spend some time with the kids that night and have a little more time before he flew out. So he decided to try to crunch his travel in the morning.
Jeremy Glick was a brand new father. His wife, Lyz, had taken their three-month-old baby, Emmy, to her parents’ home while he was away on business.
He was supposed to leave Monday night, but there were problems at the airport: He decided to wait ‘til Tuesday morning.
Lyz Glick, Jeremy's wife: His flight had been rerouted to Kennedy, he had said, and he didn’t feel like getting in to California at 3 a.m., so he figured he would go home and get a good night’s sleep and just catch the first one out.
Source
Jack Grandcolas, Lauren's husband: She actually had a publisher interested. It was a book to give women guidance on how they could learn new things in life that would bring them greater self-esteem, courage, and self-confidence.
Her husband, Jack, was still asleep when she called to leave a message just before 5 p.m. Calif. time:
Lauren Grandcolas message: Hey, I just want to let you know I’m on the 8:00 instead of the 9:20.
Good news: She got a standby seat on an earlier flight. Flight 93.
Grandcolas message: So, I get to San Francisco at about 11:00 and I’ll be at the ferry terminal probably a little before 12:00. Okay? I’ll call you then. Bye.
Like Bodley, Thomas Burnett was leaving New Jersey early to be with his family. The
38-year-old San Ramon, Calif., resident was supposed to have flown
out that afternoon on Delta, but switched to Flight 93 to get home to his wife,
Deena, and their three daughters.
Since she was scheduled on a flight that stopped in Denver, Colorado, she changed her reservations to a direct flight into San Francisco at the last minute. Wainio was able to borrow a phone from a fellow passenger and contact her stepmother during the attack.
married US Airways pilot Phil Bradshaw cut her flights to the bare minimum -- two two-day trips a month from Newark to San Francisco or to Los Angeles. She was in economy because she'd picked up Flight 93 late in
the planning. Ordinarily, she liked working first class. It was a good fit with her gregarious ways.
Source.
He was on a last minute business trip to San Francisco for BEA Systems. Another employee of BEA Systems
Originally posted by Boone 870
Here's a list of Flight 93 passengers that were not scheduled to be on the aircraft. All of these passengers made phone calls after the hijacking.
This was a senior crew," she said. "They've been around. A lot of them usually do that flight – go out on Flight 11 and come back on Flight 12 [from Los Angeles]. We all knew them really well."
In fact, a couple of the stewardesses were married to American gate agents at Logan, she says.
"You know, I said goodbye to that crew at the gate," the American employee said. "I was up there talking to the girls who were doing the flight, and the crew walks by and gives us all a wave. They said, 'See you later, we're coming back on [Flight] 12.'
originally posted by Griff
When did we start talking about flight 93?
Who is saying that all calls were faked?
Betty Ong would have been scheduled for flight 11 well in advance.
Or did you already forget your posting?