Extra-Terrestial Invasion A Possibility?

Originally posted by angelc01
reply to post by welivefortheson

 

Can you elaborate on the inquisitive souls that travel to our planet.
Because if this is so then we have been pinpointed by others besides the famous Greys, Reptilians,and Nordics.
Scouts mabe

and thanks for posting your info is important.
Angel

well,when one has the capability to alter ones form,you can choice whatever species you want to be.you could evolve on your own,become seperated from your original species in every way.

so the more advanced a species becomes,the more it has the capability deviate from its original form,unless they employ a policy otherwise.

so there is bound to be many individual totally unique souls wandering the universe doing what they wilt,some of them will be inquisitive enough to check out life bearing planets

maybe theirs only a few UFOs going around,and were all the saying the same dozen over and over again.

Remote viewing-look at google earth,thats low tech public stuff,imagine what the governments have.

tech-
so if you imagine an ET device that does continuous high detail scans of the earth with multiple spectrums(optical,radio,infrared etc),and translates that data into a artificial reality version of earth.

bio-
imagine a biological internet made up of biological brains,each one could experience all that the others see and know.this connection could span light years,depending on where each lifeform was.

lastly, the boundaries between biological and technological consciousness will be broken down,ones conciousness can inhabit AI devices,very far away....

...no need to travel anywhere,just transfer your consciousness to target vessel at the speed of light!

Originally posted by angelc01
Then ask yourself why are they here

Who? Why are who here? I don't see anybody.

and something else don't underestimate humanity it is very demeaning. It could be 12 billion plus my friend and human life would still be precious to those who consider LIFE.

Life and death are two sides of the same cheap coin. Everything and everybody living today is doing so because other life had to be ended. Even you owe your existence to a massive pile of dead plants and animals, many of which had to be killed in some very messy ways. Your own body runs on death. Cells dying and being replaced by new, fresh cells.

Life, schmife. Completely worthless. Even an alien could figure that out. Do you think there are only a few running around out there in space? If you really think there are aliens out there, then there are more than just a few hundred. There must be billions or trillions. All adding to the pile of life/death, that grows across the universe like a persistent mold. How precious is a single mold spore? Not very.

Originally posted by Nohup

Originally posted by angelc01
Then ask yourself why are they here

Who? Why are who here? I don't see anybody.

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Life, schmife. Completely worthless.

Even an alien could figure that out. Do you think there are only a few running around out there in space? If you really think there are aliens out there, then there are more than just a few hundred. There must be billions or trillions. All adding to the pile of life/death, that grows across the universe like a persistent mold. How precious is a single mold spore? Not very.

Wow. amazing. Someone who has the idea you are nothing but wasting time looking for more for our being. Congrats on this silly site.

It makes perfect sense that there would be many clifts surrounding the Earth from varoius so called visitors and observers. With all the sightings of various craft variations i would assume the earth might be quite the temp host to 1000s of interested living beings and it goes to assume that they might not all agree on things. people are such sheep when it some to ET's. If they really wanted to hurt us the scenaio of world of the worlds or Independce day would never come to play it would be subtle and something unseen and non violent as simple as a little virus dropped down to which we would be unable to fight and it would simply eradicate all human life forms on earth. So if your waiting for an attack from space keep waiting. It will never happen.. and if it does you wont even know its happening till were almost all gone.

Mapleeak

reply to post by Nohup
The principal idea of this thread was to get good info and insight
not worthless as you indicate in your statement which is yours alone and I can respect that, just as I expect you to do the same to the other posters and myself included. We are all searching for something be it radical or be it prosaic.
Some may find this silly as posted by another member and some may find it enlightning TO EACH HIS OWN.
Everyone including myself has his own perspectives on different topics and ideas, but the important part of this is to convey and communicate what we feel and think in order to share and contribute knowledge.

I read somewhere that knowledge is not ABSOLUTE, it is an everchanging commodity which is enhanced and refined overtime.

I sincerely hope that the challenge of the thoughts written by members ATS on this thread brings about a clearer conscious of what is going on now or about to happen in the near future, which may or may not affect us all.
I say may or may not because there are always those now, throughout history and into the future who refuse to accept concepts and ideas that conflict to their way of thinking.
When they apply their brakes on us we slow down But do not Stop.
We meet the challenge and go forward.
Again thank you for your insight and out of curiousity is that Bob Dylan
holding the sign??Or is that you?

Angel

reply to post by Nohup


i disagree, i think life is the most precious matter in the universe,especially intelligent matter.the fact that humans dont value life explains why they destroy it without conscience.

yes life and death of organisms is a natural process,but the act of systematic destruction of life by other life is not an act any enlightened species would commit,especially an interplanetary one.


lyingunderoath-you and me,toe to toe,any subject.

Originally posted by welivefortheson
reply to post by Nohup

 

i disagree, i think life is the most precious matter in the universe,especially intelligent matter.the fact that humans dont value life explains why they destroy it without conscience.

yes life and death of organisms is a natural process,but the act of systematic destruction of life by other life is not an act any enlightened species would commit,especially an interplanetary one.


lyingunderoath-you and me,toe to toe,any subject.

I couldn't have said it better, and thanks for your positive attitude which is most refreshing.I hope others will emulate for our well being.

I haven't read every last post, so apologies if this is a repetition. This is purely speculative and I do not mean to imply that what I say here is proven real. It is just taking the OP premis and running with it for awhile.

It seems to me that 'invade' connotes a number of issues. "Invade" usually means an overt act of taking over another 'place.' Once you invade you are responsible for running the place. This is not a good thing, takes a lot of energy, and will result in losses. e.g., Iraq. Even in "V" thete were old ladies throwing bombs into shuttle craft. So, unless aliens have the capability of a 'surge' to keep order, it doesn't make sense for them to do so.

Assuming for the moment that aliens are not capable of being on earth in sufficient numbers to invade the entire planet and take over all 200 or so countries, an alternative is to just show up and take what you need and ignore the inhabitants. That begs the question of what you would need, though. If aliens are as advanced as we often give them credit for, what would they need that they could not make with their equivalent of a replicator? They surely do not need energy or fossil fuels when they have tapped into anti-grav and zero point energy devices. They surely don't need water: They can make their own H2O easily. Rare minerals? C'mon, see replicator above. Space for colonization? well, we've got lots of deserts. If you believe in the Tall Whites, that is already happening. A waypoint station between wormholes? Hmm, that could be compelling, but it wouldn't require a wholesale invasion.

So my guess is either they have already invaded and we did not notice, or there is really no compelling reason for them to exert the effort to do so.

reply to post by schuyler


If I could applaud you here I would.

I too ascribe more to us being either invaded and it over and done with, unlikely IMO, or we're just ignorant bystanders on the cosmic road of life.

reply to post by schuyler
I have entertained that idea for quite some time now, but we have to accept that there are many who do not and that is why there exist forums of discussions to get feedback even if it bothers some folks indicating that it's the same old thing.SORRY for those folks but the show must go on untill the real truth comes thruogh and then mabe in the future we will all joke about this if not cry.


Thanks Schuyler for your input.
Angel

My theory is, Earth is an E.T. tourist attraction. All of the U.F.O.s that we see are nothing more than viewing craft that sometimes get piloted by horrible E.T. drivers. E.T.s have cruel senses of humor I imagine.

"expect the unexpected"

Dont live your whole life worrying about such an event. Be ready in case something was to happen, but do not let it control your life

reply to post by spec_ops_wannabe


A book called the "sleeping abductees"i read recently (comming from the
Ashtar foundation explains the situation as a take over by the greys.....
This includes mass exterminations through the use of giant hollograms which will be horizon to horizon, and give the local peoples what they are expecting vis-a vis end times scenarios....
So everyone will get whjat they have heard predicted by their differing religions and the results of course is there will be no heaven at the end of the tunnel....merely "hot showers for everyone"
The claim by the way is a whopping seventy percent of humanity has been abducted already at least once in their lives....
Its an interesting story and could have a lot of truth to it....

The invasion scenario has not been one of the things i most fear about UFOs to date however......The Big Black Triangles do have me worried a bit.
They are relatively newcomers in any niumbers...but of late those numbers have become overwhelming in my estimation....
They pose a new piece to the UFO puzzle, and seem to have very little concern for us earthlings down here....
There is the whispers of human mutes from the Hudson Valley sightings, and the very silent and awsome way they are overflying us at really much lower altitudes than previous with the saucer people.

The Triangles have not deemed it nessessary to interact with us in any way, and this makes me think that they view us in a very low light.
Perhaps evenm with a great deal of disdain the way they keep out manouvering our planes and shutting down our offensive weapons when our pilots cock their guns for a shot etc.
Because they do not appear to be related to the saucers tighty(tho some have entered and left these huge triangles in flight,they seem disimilar to what weve been seeing.)
Perhaps im wrong but the triangles may be inimical to us in some fashion which the others have not displayed....They certainly have been reinforced fairly quickly if opne takes sighting frequency as any guage.
And even if they have only ten or twenty ships here in the solar system, they certainly have us out gunned right now......

Would our old friends the greys hop in on our side i wonder?
That may seem the best way to protect their investment in us....
Also maybe the greys are behind the triangles and will use the threat of them to reveal themselves to us under a crisis scenario sos we will assimilate them without too much hassle....it would be duck soup for them to pull it off.....
A few hostile triangles attack the USair Forces defenses, and the greys like the cavalry come charging to the rescue.....bad triangles...good saucers....hello friends heheheheheh
Well my feeble brain can think of a few more twists and turns of the ET screw but perhaps ill leave the speculations up to youse....
bergle

reply to post by angelc01

In the Book of Revelation there's a passage;
"........a war broke out in Heaven", and somewhere in the New Testament that;
"Jesus will gather His from the four corners of Heaven".
I sort of perk-up a little when reading allegations of extra-terrestrial conflict, and wonder if someone's using the Bible, or other religious texts to develope fiction, or somethings actually being reported.

reply to post by welivefortheson

In reply to the person that stated that we have nothing an extraterrestiral intelligence would want I can tell you this.
Even though I think this is far fetched, and for entertainment only, it would not be what technology WE have created, but the planet we occupy.

This is the scary part, the resource would most likely be US and the other lifeforms that inhabit this world. The water, the land itself, the stable climate, the abundance of water etc...

You don't need to speculate on the need for these things, because without seeing another lifeform not from earth, I can tell you 100% that all life needs these things, a stable environment gravity, temperature, food, minerals, etc the list is too complex and convoluted to go into detail on, but you get the point. We also can not imagine what may have evolved and what exactly can be withstood, life is a complex puzzle with many rules and adaptations.

We could simply be "in the way" for a race looking for a NEW HOME. So as you can see, there are real reasons for an invasion of another race of beings. Also intelligence is not always the case for an invasion, an invasion could simply be an asteroid caring a rapidly spreading virus or organisim the possibilities... heh

Also venturing into Space, we could accidently cause an invasion by unknowingly bringing back a lifeform that would not otherwise be able to traverse Space. Think Aliens the movie, heh heh.

I think a parasite would be more likely than an advanced Space Exploring race.

If we ever did encounter a Space Travelling race of beings we would be Doomed, because there would be no other reason for them to be HERE, other than in a big MOVING VAN...

A UFO would not likely be the case, people claim to see 1 or 2 UFO's. This is ridiculous, if there were UFO's visiting this planet we would know right away, because there would not be just 1. There would be more than likely 100's, or ONE HUGE PLANET TYPE Ufo. My reasoning behind this is that all life as we know it live in societies, ALL LIFE, there are no lifeforms on this planet that don't live together with one another, so a Race of Alien beings "Astronauts" are not going to "leave" their planet behind without taking along a substantial amount of fellow travellers, I imagine a smaller travelling world because they would probably be looking for another habitable planet, or would be a group of scientists mapping the Universe and sending the data back to their homeworld, in any event they would be taking their world with them in a way, so that leaving "home" would not be a problem. This could go both ways, in that I mean, they could be Malevolent, or Benevolent, either way the World ship theory would still work either way.

Also if we were seeing actual UFO's in the skies, there would still mean that there "must" be a larger Home Ship out there somewhere, hiding behind a planets "Darkside" or out of our visual spectrum etc... Any small single craft appearances would simply have to be scouts or investigators, observors, data gatherers etc.

Fear Tactic;

One probably Universial trait that we all probably commonly share is fear and aggression. All lifeforms have some form of psychological response measures inborn. A roach will run away from a human, a Bear will attack a person in their territory, a dog will bark at other animals.

What I'm getting at is that this also must apply to "any" lifeforms, this would be a tool to cause panic and disarray among a group of people.

So my point is that the little grey peaceful visitor theory just doesn't cut it for me.

You are not going to have to observe humans for very long to see how aggressive and destructive we are as a race. So the little grey man isn't just going to land and shake hands with a paranoid, hostile and destructive race that tries to live peacefully only because it is benificial to everyone, and I for one would come down to earth for a visit about as much as I'd like to stumble into a Columbian drug cartels meeting...

One more post, looking through this topic, it is quite amusing the way people talk of "Greys" and "Reptilians" I even scanned through and saw someone mention "A tall white".

Did I miss something somewhere? Because when I step outside my door, I never encounter any of these beings...

Yet they are mentioned as if they actually exist. It's almost like people are living in a fantasy.

By the way, has anyone seen "Pan's Labyrinth"? it's a better movie than I thought.

First I like to say I am a firm believer that we are not alone. I believe we are and have been visited.

I have read ppl say that because they are advance they will not attack us. They are peaceful because they're thousand of years older than us. What could we offer them that they can’t get some place else.

Would aliens have the seven sins that plague us? If so, they are capable of the same acts we are no matter how old they are. I believe the older the race the worst the race becomes?

News Flash the human race is maybe about 20,000 years old (from what were told).

From are own history the only thing consistent is Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy and Pride.

If you gave Hitler or Sadam and spaceship capable a traveling to several planets with intelligent life less advance what would they do???

100 years or 10,000 years what’s the difference?

What would humans do if we traveled to a planet with intelligent life less advance??

1. Would we make contact?
2. Would we study them?
3. Would we attack them?
4. Would we experiment on them?

Looking at our own planets government I would say it depends on which government went.

If you look at our own species we have good and bad intentions.

Why wouldn’t we expect the same from our alien friends?

reply to post by Brainiac
The many speculations that you post on various assumptions could be possible on some counts , but we must take into consideration all theories in retrospect in comparison to the present and future and we must also consider Religious views, Political views, Paranormal views, and Sociological views, not leaving out the Psychological impact this would have on the public in general.

Thanks Brainiac for your imput
Angel



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