Vampires, the real deal...

I always loved vampire stories, and mangas/animes especially if they had a touch of romance at least. And its ironic I just watched one of the Blade movies last night. The idea of a candy coated reality covering a small group of vampires ruling over our authorities and police, and seeing us as cattle/slaves, could easily be an analogy for the reptilian/babylonian/luciferan/occult ritualists who control this planet, through 13 bloodlines, and they have established or encouraged most of the satanist groups in North America. I read somewhere 1/100 was in the US, which hopefully is way to high a stat. So I agree with
NewWorldOver on this. Arizona Wilder's account also spoke of the adrenalin and starfire.

reply to post by Levita

What are those two races? Would you tell?

They are not nameable. But one race is just that, a race, while the other are more like the afflicted. One sort have a history, a bloodline, etc., where the other is an aberration of our own race. There may be some connection I suppose, but some of the characteristics and traits between the two are quite different to the point that I don't even really classify them as the same creature.

reply to post by jackinthebox


What do you mean by "not nameable"?

reply to post by madhatter3113


You can call them all sorts of different things, but there is no consensus, and therefore naming them is moot. Most people wouldn't recognize the names that could be applied well enough to understand what they were being applied to. If I said one was "race X" and the other "race Y" would you know the difference?

Thinks of how many names there already are for Vampires. Some of those names could be applied I suppose.

Then there is the consideration that their true name simply is not known.



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reply to post by jackinthebox
Would you possibly describe the two? Or, what they do, or what makes one an 'abberation'? (By u2u, even?)

reply to post by Levita


Well, the first is truly an affliction. What one might imagine in the "Nosferatu" sort of creature. Not the glamorous creature often depicted, but a crippled beast that can not die. An outcast and a loner most likely. An almost pitiful creature if not so despicable.

Then there is a more demonic sort, that I think are actually more influencial and walk among Humans more easily to some extent, yet are far more detatched from us even. Think more along the lines of "30 Days of Night" here.

reply to post by jackinthebox

There is an interesting description. Where would you know this from? Personal experience? Just being curious~ as always~

reply to post by Levita


My direct personal experiences have been somewhat fleeting, as might be expected. More of it comes from years of research and interpretations of the materials I have reviewed.

I might very well be wrong about the number of races as well. There might be none, there might be one, or there might be several more. For now though, the evidence points toward two distinct sorts, which are both "real."

For me, the single most important characteristic of true Vamprism is the longevity of such creatures. Any person can practice vampirism in several forms if they so choose, but no one can live "beyond the grace of God," save the Vampire.



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In the other vampire encounter thread, you said you had encounters but could not share any with us? Why? Is this what lead you to believe what you do about there being 2 races? (I know you said you got more of your ideas & opinions from research.)

What are the chareristics of the more demonic of the 2? Do they resemble people or are they crippled, not attractive, beast-like beings as well? You said think 30 days of night, but I have not seen it yet (I may rent it this weekend)

Would you mind filling me in on what you mean?

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Well, 30 Days of Night was awesome, but not quite fitting to what I actually believe either. More a strain of what I believe. Something to give a mental image for comparison purposes.

Imagine trying to describe Humans to an alien being. Some are big, small, black, white, passive, aggressive, etc. Now magnify the difficulty in describing creatures that are actually even more complex than Humans, without much resources to even go on.

One of my more profound experiences was with what I thought was a human woman at the time. Stereotypical perhaps, but quite strange in the long run. Maybe I'll do a thread on it one day, and share the tale.

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YES!!! please - I'm all ears when you're willing to share the encounter story.

reply to post by jackinthebox
Me too! I would be very interested in hearing your experience. I love hearing of them. Do start that post~

I just tried to start typing it out, but I don't have the energy to do it just now. My thought process is having a hard time too. I think I'm in trouble with Lyme disease.

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Are you serious? How'd you get Lyme disease? (and who the heck is that in the new picture you have?)

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Must have got bit by a tick, again...

I had Lyme back in my late teens/early twenties. It's not joke. I should start a thread on that, because I think it's a conspiracy there too. Once you have it, you never actually get rid if it. The symptoms can come back at any time, but I had a rash, so I think I got bit again.

The new avatar is "Pig Killer" from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Some of his best quotes...

"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are."

"Eh, had to feed the family."

"Plan? Ain't no plan."

"What happened to two?"

I encountered one when I resided in San Angelo Texas years ago---a bank teller. You know when you see one because they have a completely different aura than humans. Reportedly they also have glass-like fingernails. Supposedly, there were also a few others in San Angelo that I didn't get to meet. In addition, I've seen a few on yahoo profiles. Pale(white-like) complexion as well as deep red lipstick are common with them We also happen to have one in the U.S. Senate. You can take a guess as to who it is. Hint: female. From experience, I can tell you they need to be respected and are not to be trifled with.

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I've read through a lot of this information from all you different people and was wondering how you all come to mind with the information given, Where do you research, books? internet? The many different races and persons, BC and/or AD? i know you said you lost most of your information and what not, but how did you acquire such findings, hunches? interviews?

To add some "food for thought":
In my views and beliefs, religion is the means of believing in what cannot been seen and in things that you have not seen, right? So with that said: do immortals exist? maybe, maybe not. I believe that some where out there, there is a *race* if you will, that has some of the leading attributes of the mythological creature know as the vampire. There are a few things here and there that i would pick out of it to describe my idea of an immortal. And on the same note, nothing in our human life last, ~"Everything that has a beginning, has an end"~ and for those of you that are still reading this far and have a closed mind, take this one in though: IF there were such things as vampires, cunning, smart, super human, even in a position of power to change laws or documents do you not think they would know how to avoid a lower class of life?

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Who would this "vampire" be in the white house?
Represnatatives aren't white-pale.
They look like normal people, because they ARE normal people...for the most part.
But apart from the aura thing, (because i wouldn't know of that~) anyone could put on clear nailpolish to make them look like that. And White skin and blood red lips are common for goths, but goth =/= vampire.

You guys are rediculous. For Pete's sake, if you're going to quote evidence for a true version of a legend, don't use a Hollywood movie!

Now, from what I can gather, you all believe something romantic like "Vampires are poor souls that have been infected by some disease" which leads to "A conspiracy theory" and then the inevitable "They're from Mars."
Seriously now... Legends of Vampires exist in almost all cultures around the world. That shouldn't be very surprising, after all, humans are the same species, so it makes sense that we should think generally the same.

This is my knowledge of Vampire legends:
Before science became advanced, people used mythical ideas to explain away the things they don't know. Now, there has to be some basis for this because people don't just make things up off the top of their heads, they use things from the world around them.
I studied death by tuberculosis as one theory for Vampirism. The victims of tuberculosis slowly waste to death as their lungs and insides deteriorate (I'm not exactly sure what TB does). They often cough up blood when they sleep, so that means, when they wake up, they're covered in blood. They become jaundiced, or lose a lot of color and become yellowish. Their eyes become sensitive to light because they are very sick. Their skin sinks in so fingernails, teeth, etc look much longer, leading to the theory of growth. Then they may look dead and wake up again.
That's only one theory, that common incurable illnesses led to myths of Vampires.

There are hundreds of other reasons. I'm not completely discrediting the myth, but I'm reminding everyone that the answer is often simpler than you think. So for everyone that thinks it's a government conspiracy/aliens...please. Go back to kindergarten.

As quoted from Holly Black's "Ironside": "A surfeit of ballads makes for odd ideas about romance," please do not rely on fictional accounts (books, movies) for "evidence" of Vampiric activity. Even, though it's a very slim chance, if the authors are writing from "known fact" or "personal experience" they are going to add in a large amount of dramatic, romantic effects to make their book/movie more enjoyable. So no, I personally do not belive that Vampires are hotties like Edward Cullen in Stephenie Meyer's "Twilight".

Nature is very surprising and, at the risk of personification, clever and unexpected. There are plenty of undiscovered species in our world, including thousands that go extinct before we ever find them. Before you jump to conclusions, look around you, think about the "facts" that you know, and use common sense.

Kill joy

No, I agree. Without empirical proof you have a fairy tale, in scientific terms. That is why science and religion will never get along, they may come to agree on certain things, but they will never be bedfellows. Now I evoke religion into this because of all things, it requires one to believe without seeing (or maybe it's just the modern age which is required to do so?) proof of the belief. It requires you to put your faith in something that you may never come to know. Within this you then have the supernatural and superstition. Which is the vampyre?

I can’t say. Fact or Fiction, people like a good story and the vampyre helps that along.