Do U think the Japanese will see the lunar Alien ruins?

They have this probe thing orbiting the moon, so surely they can view the alien artifacts Hoagland & lear claim is there right? Or are they already strongarmed into not showing this stuff to humanity?
www.selene.jaxa.jp...
space.jaxa.jp...


Look these are hidef images and they should see something. I'd like to hear a 'higher level' answer to this question...

for that matter..how come they hav'nt zoomed in on the lunar landing sites..its been over 30 years since anyone has seen them..surely of interest? Whats going on here? anyone?


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No, they will not see them because they don't exist.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
No, they will not see them because they don't exist.

Have you mapped every inch of 100% of the lunar surface to make that kind of demolishing statement?

Sorry for my english.

Seems like ur on the wrong forum lol but unless you've been there..you really dont KNOW. Do you KNOW?

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
No, they will not see them because they don't exist.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
No, they will not see them because they don't exist.

It's great to make a statement like this if you know for a fact that they don't.

Due to the fact that there have been no moon landings since Apollo, a lot of shadyness from past astronauts and also members of the disclosure project saying that civilisations exist (or still exist there), then it is narrow-minded to think otherwise until proven wrong.

If they do see something up there, then let's hope that they are more honest than the other missions that have been up there and actually enlighten the public as to what is REALLY going on up there...

I just hope the U.s. did'nt strong arm the japanese like: "We wont help you again the North Koreans or China if you dare divuldge any E.T. information found"

Originally posted by christian952

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
No, they will not see them because they don't exist.

It's great to make a statement like this if you know for a fact that they don't.

Due to the fact that there have been no moon landings since Apollo, a lot of shadyness from past astronauts and also members of the disclosure project saying that civilisations exist (or still exist there), then it is narrow-minded to think otherwise until proven wrong.

If they do see something up there, then let's hope that they are more honest than the other missions that have been up there and actually enlighten the public as to what is REALLY going on up there...

Originally posted by jainatorres
I just hope the U.s. did'nt strong arm the japanese like: "We wont help you again the North Koreans or China if you dare divuldge any E.T. information found."

I imagine that the U.S. has bigger fish to fry than that. Besides, if any conclusive E.T. evidence was found and released, why would it would be particularly damaging to the U.S.?

Think about it. If the news didn't immediately tear the world apart in conflict, it likely would be a boon to the U.S., since an Earth defense organization would probably be the first thing everyone would want to create, and the United States has the big military, money and resources to fund and control it.

Such a discovery/announcement might be a nice shortcut to a U.S. controlled world government. Aren't there entire forums on this site where the more paranoid among us continuously argue that is the NWO's ultimate goal?

I don't know? Those pics of the Japanese orbiter seem too clear. I think that this orbiter will probably put some closure on this topic once and for all. To be honest, I see these videos and I see absolutely 0% chance of any ruins on the moon.

It's like that Japanese orbiter is probably gonna put a whole lot of people to shame when it beams back no images of artificial structures.

If this happens Hoagland and Wolf will clearly be out of the UFO scene big time.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
No, they will not see them because they don't exist.

Famous Last Words.

I am still reading DARK MISSION, sounds pretty convincing to me. I hope you are not that naive to think if there was something, they would post it on their website.

The NASA that we have known for over 50 years has been a lie. -Source: Dark Mission by Richard C.Hoagland and Mike Bara

That was the first line in the Introduction in their new book and I am only 1/80th of the way through and I am astonished. If people are into learning about the moon and our solar system and an excellent trace about NASA disinformation, this book is great.

Sorry, not trying to plug it, but I've learned quite a bit and I can't wait to get halfway through it.

People can not accept the notion that life exist in our solar system yet elsewhere because they base their belief on what they've been taught and experienced over the span of their lifetime. We simply do not know anything else except what we are told. If NASA tells you our sky is RED, most people would probably believe it.

Keep in mind, global warming was a myth by the majority of the population just 3 years ago.

That's my two cents on this comment.

OK, I'm probably going to far with the conspiracy stuff here, but I haven't seen any footage from KAGUYA yet that didn't make me feel like I was watching a computer simulation. Althought this is probably because I haven't seen any of the truly high-def stuff just yet. I mean, HD means we'll be getting 1080p at some point, right?

Man this stuff kills me.
For years now we have heard people whining how they wanted other groups to send probes to the moon or mars to map it to put an end to speculations on cities, aliens, the Apollo landing sites, etc. Now they are getting that, but when it does not show what they want it to, then the independent group must be cahoots with NASA.

There are basically two seperate questions here...
1. will they see them?

2. will they tell/show everyone?

I don't think this stuff is in cahoots with NASA.

Nor do I care if it finds any ruins or whatever. I just want it to look like a convincing picture of a moon surface, and I haven't seen that yet.

Originally posted by uv777bk
OK, I'm probably going to far with the conspiracy stuff here, but I haven't seen any footage from KAGUYA yet that didn't make me feel like I was watching a computer simulation. Althought this is probably because I haven't seen any of the truly high-def stuff just yet. I mean, HD means we'll be getting 1080p at some point, right?

Here is something to think about, as I believe we did go to the moon during the Apollo missions.

In Hoagland and Bara's book "Dark Mission" they point out NASA is not strictly a civilian scientific institution, but is a department of the Executive Branch.

They have added Emphasis to "Sec 305.....(i) The National Aeronautics and Sapce Administration shall be considered a defense agency of the United States for the purpose of Chapter 17, Title 35 of the United States Code.

"Sec 205.....(d) No NASA information which has been classified for reasons of National Security shall be included in any report made under this section[of the Act]....

The point he is trying to make is that NASA does not have to share any classified information for reasons of National Security.

So if NASA has videos of UFO, Alien Artifacts, Moon bases... they will just say it does not exist and can come up with a legitimate excuse and will not admit anything that is classified information.

Hoagland points out that the "We never landed on the Moon Story" was planned by key players in NASA when Apollo 11 was on its was back home from the Moon. He actually has DOCUMENTED PROOF int he book.

He says that MOST NASA employees do not have any idea what is going on and they are kept in the dark by key NASA players themselves. "Basically they are being lied to as well because they all have specific job duties and are not exposed to every piece of information.

E.G " Like your boss assigning you a task to complete but never explaining why."

The so called Moon Hoax was to draw the publics attention away from what was really going on.

I would love to type it all up for you, but I don't have the time, read the book and you will be amazed.

I'm waiting for the announcement they have discovered a breathable atmosphere

Unless the Sony+Nintendo_Ajax Industrial complex can turn the findings into a play station or wii..I doubt they will say anything..but interestingly..the materials used for the ceramic part of all electonics particularly cell phones.. is up there..so that is more useful to them than one piece of million year old debris that they may not ever get to figure out..who knows..the more nations involved the less longer they can keep it secret..in the end humans have always been as much busybodies as they are greedy..

I think any country with the capability to travel to the moon has a right to know what's going on up there. Anyways, I'm sure the Japanese government and it's intelligence agencies would already be aware of any structures up there before ever going.

No doubt in my mind that there's some extraordinary, artificial things on the moon. Whether there's a breathable atmosphere is another question, but I won't rule it out completely.

Peace

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
No, they will not see them because they don't exist.

Amen to that Brother...

No-one can prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist or the tooth fairy...you can't prove such negatives.

So as I see it saying that they do exist, without proof is like accepting Santa Claus and the Tooth fairy exist without proof.

So by applying the same logic, those believing in Aliens and UFOs with no proof must also still be putting a Stocking up for Santa on the 25th December and loose teeth under the pillow at night

Is it a possibility maybe, a probability perhaps...but it is not fact...

So far all I am aware of, is some countries have left craft there...that is the only wreckage they might find. Even then some doubt we ever got there.

That's the beauty of this topic...no proof..and lots of people willing to believe without it.

I think we should sort out our home first, make it a bit more hospitable for our neighbours....if there are any..

Of course they will not discover any air on the moon. The reason is because the gravity is not strong enough to keep it there. You lot should really learn some basic science and stop listening to some of the rubbish spouted on this site!

oops killed the thread (again!) Haha,
No but I really do hope that the Japanese would share any interesting finds they may make.

konnichiwa