blue spirity thingy on news site

Why are you guys blaming the store clerk for not going outside to check?
He could probably see outside from where he was and maybe nothing was showing up visibly to his naked eye and only showing up on the camera.

Maybe he did poke his head out the door and looked and saw nothing, did someone ask him that?

Originally posted by worldwatcher
Why are you guys blaming the store clerk for not going outside to check?
He could probably see outside from where he was and maybe nothing was showing up visibly to his naked eye and only showing up on the camera.

Maybe he did poke his head out the door and looked and saw nothing, did someone ask him that?

If jpm1602 stops by there to talk to the owner who was behind the counter that night, maybe he/she can ask this person those questions you are posing here Worldwatcher.

As far as I know, most anomalous things only show up on playback of the movie. Most are not seen by the naked eye.
I myself am wondering if there's a short delay effect of whatever the security cam is recording before it reaches the surveillance screen in the store. It may only be a very, very short delay and may not even be that noticeable to most who are watching that monitor but this is something I would love to find out from the owner of that station.

There are very few really intelligent choices as to what that thing is: It is either a natural electrical / plasma phenomenon caused perhaps by the electrical systems of the cars and station and the fumes of the combustibles all around...OR it may be an actual entity of some kind, and that is what I believe it to be. It could be a ' ghost ' meaning the spirit of a dead human unable or unwilling to go on to greater dimensional possibilities, or perhaps an alien being that can transmogrify from a state of which we are unfamiliar and not be seen anything but a wisp, as seen here.

It is in my opinion a REAL example of a spiritual or dimensional being and not an anomaly of the earth and atmosphere. I think it moves with purpose and is too clearly real to be disregarded. As to those who claim to see plastic bags and such, you need to get your vision checked, and soon!! There is NO WAY on earth that that thing can be mistaken for anything made of a material substance. It is NOT solid , but ethereal while being real!!

Very well put eyewitness! I wish I could write like you and you've very eloquently zoomed in on those significant points you've observed in this video!
No way is this ThING a bug or a plastic bag. No Waaaaay!

Somebody to call the Ghostbusters please

My take on the "ghost":

To those who have never seen a blue plastic bag before. Never been to Wal-mart? They have billions of them.

CNN and Fox are reporting on it, therefore it has to be true

There are such things as blue insects. Do a google seach to prove it. The theories on the security camera have already been discussed so no need for me to add to that.

"It could be a blue orb". I've never seen a photo or video of a real orb. Faulty film developing or lighting/camera tricks can do the job.

These are the one cell terrorist sleeper cells the govn't is warning about.

If it is a ghost, then it is a ghost. No bid deal to me. It's not bothering anyone.

No offence intended to the OP.

This is the same story as the one in ohio. This can be recreated with Gas fumes and a specific lens. no ghost here.

Interesting... definitely not a bug or a plastic bag... looks almost like rudimentary frame by frame animation... look how it seems to move in jerkity motions... no one there saw it, otherwise they would have reacted to it, maybe its like visual EVP, detected only in review... doesn't look like any ghost video I've ever seen...

Not sure what it is

Some people seem to be concluding that the eyewitnesses actually "saw" the thing. When I read the article, I get the impression that the eyewitnesses only saw the thing on the videotape -- in fact the one guy you see getting gas on the video seems to be ignoring it...like it isn't there. For instance, nobody seems to have actually seen it "cover a windshield", but on the video it "appears" to cover a windshield

As I said in an earlier post, I don't know if it was a bug, but it seems to me that whatever it was stayed ON THE LENS and only moved along the "2-Dimensional plane" of the lens. It did NOT look like it was moving away from the camera and back again.

Edit to add:

reply to post by Titen-Sxull

Those jerky motions are probably from the security camera -- to save film, many of them only take a couples frames per second (rather than 24 fps like a movie). This produces the "jerky" motion that is not uncommon to security cameras.



[edit on 11/14/2007 by Soylent Green Is People]

Outside of the discussion, which is fairly unreal in itself, there are some interesting aspects to the video and the object in question.

First is the saturation of the color. The blue is quite striking and this makes some of the suggested causes like bugs not plausible.

The constant out of focus is too consistent to be something near the lens. The focal would be changing from less to more focused image. It is quite active.

The movement is what is most interesting to me. Whatever it is, it is impelled from one point and pulling the rest behind it seems. Such movement would suggest something in a bag, but a bag would be in focus even at the speeds and distance it seemed to move. The consistent blur also discounts any such object.

A feather, by the way, does not contort as this object, but has a good color match. So I would not think such would be possible at all.

This is not a conventional object. I will wait for better video, but I think this will be unexplainable based on any conventional explanation.

I've a feeling that many more such events will become known soon. There is some change in our experience globally that is beginning. We've seen very little as yet, but I worry about the social impact of our description of reality being shattered by such events in everyones lives.

Scared fearful people are more dangerous and therefore more scary than any entity I've ever seen.

ZG

Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
Interesting... definitely not a bug or a plastic bag... looks almost like rudimentary frame by frame animation... look how it seems to move in jerkity motions... no one there saw it, otherwise they would have reacted to it, maybe its like visual EVP, detected only in review... doesn't look like any ghost video I've ever seen...

Not sure what it is

That would be video ITC which is just fancy name for capturing paranormal things with a video-camera.
I'm thinking there's a connection between the Blue Thing and the owner of the gas station who was watching the surveillence screen when it was out there. As in most of these cases (BUT NOT ALL), there's alway some kind of energy resonance between the human and the anamolous trans-dimensional being who is making itself known by manifesting into our dimension in one way or another so that we can see or hear it or both in one way or another. The vehicle of the human medium is the technology which in this case would be the security camera.
One good question to ask the owner who was behind that counter is if he's ever experienced or seen anything paranormal before... that would be a good start.



[edit on 14-11-2007 by Palasheea]

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Thanks for the clarification, I figured it might be a frame per second sort of camera...
Still not sure what it is, some sort of electromagnetic dependent phenomenon, maybe a ghost, maybe not, but I wouldn't go around saying it was evidence of the paranormal due to its inconclusive nature...

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If the thing stayed on the lens, then I would expect it to stay out of focus the whole time (which it did). The focus on security cameras are set to infinity and will NOT automatically adjust to something on the lens.

ZG,
I agree that there's a lot going on now and I'm waiting with bated breath to see what's coming up next.

This blue thing is just a harbinger for whats yet to come. I know that sounds rather dramatic but I'm going by my own experiences too and those of others. There's a tremendous amt. of energy out there now that's manifesting in untold ways that cannot be ignored.

We can do all of the rationalizing we want and choose to ignore such unusual events as what's showing in this thread including those changes you are talking about that are occurring now.. but whatever it is... it's just the beginning and I'm finding this all very exciting -- yet not without some tribulation... it's natural to fear the unknown.

But whatever the case may be, it's best to err on the side of caution.

[edit on 14-11-2007 by Palasheea]

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Hey, jpm1602, do us favor, if you've got access to a camera, capture a view of the camera that recorded this thing!

That'd be helpful...


reply to post by worldwatcher


I'm under the impression it was the owner of the station that witnessed the event on camera (and has given all the interviews.)

Surely the owner of the station could have taken the time to check out his own surveillance camera?

Let me clear this up for everyone... I live less than 1 mile from the gas station in question and fuel up there often. This is NOT a ghost, an insect or anything like that.

This is blue grocery bag (think of the movie American Beauty) - the type used commonly by our local Giant Eagle grocery store, the local WalMart and the gas station in question... Yes, this gas station sells beer, select groceries like milk and snacks etc... and will bag them for you in a BLUE GROCERY BAG!

The reason that the bag looks out of focus has everything to do with depth of field and focal length. Because the camera is designed to watch the pumps it has a very long focal length and a small aperature to ensure that the focus is nearly infinitum. This way the clerk can clearly see the pumps, the customers, the make and model of the car and possibly the license plate if necessary. Anything close to the camera will appear blury as a result of this set-up.

As I alluded to earlier, in the movie American Beauty, a bag drifted and danced in the wind - almost exactly like this. In fact, I'm nearly certain that this isn't even the entire bag, but the little tabs that come off when the bag is pulled from it's wire rack after being packaged. The security camera there has a plastic cover over it - ever notice how grocery bags become statically charged and stick to plastic? I'm willing to bet that one of those little tabs found it's way onto the plastic lense cover and stuck to it until the wind finally blew it away. It's not even sitting on the car window as they claimed in the piece (Over-sensationalized!) but has moved further down the protective plastic cover.

Sorry folks, nothing paranormal here. A simple piece of a blue grocery bag - provided by the gas station in question - sticking to the protective plastic covering the security camera. Again, I know... I stop and get my gas and beer there at least two times a week - for the past seven years.

Bizarre to sat the least. Perhaps it was a government gas bag counting cars at the pumps to make sure the people will continue to pay happily for over-priced oil products!

Maybe thats the answer! If everyone like me just stopped driving their cars and took on alternative forms of transportation the prices would come back down. I mean if people are willing to fork over $5.00 per gallon for gasoline- why should they drop prices!

Its Casper the happy gas ghost!

(sarcasm- folks! I don't know what the hell it was!)

Hey Kozmo, why don't you take a camera down to the gas station and show us some shots of the bag, the scene, etc.

maybe even do an interview with the owner as an ATS exclusive. Try to get him to let you duplicate the bag in the wind theory or bag stuck to the lense theory.



[edit on 11-14-2007 by worldwatcher]

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No need to waste energy on countering the bag-theory. Must any witness would recognize a bag flying around in the air.

No, what this is, is more mysterious, more interesting, more fun and another great thread by the OP.

Originally posted by kozmo
In fact, I'm nearly certain that this isn't even the entire bag, but the little tabs that come off when the bag is pulled from it's wire rack after being packaged. The security camera there has a plastic cover over it - ever notice how grocery bags become statically charged and stick to plastic? I'm willing to bet that one of those little tabs found it's way onto the plastic lense cover and stuck to it until the wind finally blew it away...
...Sorry folks, nothing paranormal here. A simple piece of a blue grocery bag - provided by the gas station in question - sticking to the protective plastic covering the security camera. Again, I know... I stop and get my gas and beer there at least two times a week - for the past seven years.

You mean there's no strip club close by?

(jk)

So, mystery solved!?

Any chance of getting the owner to recreate the event?

(yea right )

Maybe you can get a handful of those little plastic bits and toss 'em at the camera, and see if anything sticks!

Be sure and take a news crew with you, to provide coverage and proof...


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Oops, you beat me to it!

Great minds think alike, eh?

[edit on 14-11-2007 by goosdawg]