Magma pushing up ground in Yellowstone

Good thread!! But this is not new news. The BBC did a superb drama documentary last year called Supervolcano and it was looking at the impact of Yellowstone blowing up.

Yellowstone Awakens !

Looks scientists have had the jitters and we (humanity) were being educated just in case it does blow up anytime soon Hopefully not in the next 100 years. Mind you with all the whoo haa about 2012 it would kinda spoil the 2012 party if it were to blow then....

I wonder what effect local alteration of the earth's magnetic field might have on tending to keep the magma underground or directed toward a region of greater crustal solidity... like say using HAARP to mess with the ionosphere over Yellowstone ,plus or minus, a little bit... I think basalt is more magnetic than granite...

It makes me feel a little more comfortable here on the east coast. Even here we'd probably get dusted quite good if she blew.

This could very well play a roll in turning the sun black and the moon as blood on the big day.

Don't forget there is a ton of Gold in Yellowstone.

Google New World Mine.

As I have only skim read this thread I apologise if this has been mentioned before but i'm in a hurry to get to my natural hazzards lecture no less.

I was going to make a point about relieving pressure. If this could be done do you not think it would have been done in the past with other volcanoes etc.

I also believe that the magma is still very far down below the ground and the rise in ground level is just either natural ground gases or magma but again this would be very far down.

If magma was that close under the surface, surface rock would have melted by now.

I believe we should always been looking for solutions to problems however a volcanic eruption is not something humans will ever be able to control, and thinking we could is silly.

bear in mind if it wasn't for volcanoes there wouldn't be any life on this planet in the first place and that humans have overlived on this planet compared to the other dominant species through time.

and yes it is a quite well known fact within geography/geology that yellowstone does blow ever 640 630 thousand years and we are about due, however you must remember that these estimates are give or take a few thousand years in some cases.

Been reading this Independent article this morning, called The time bomb under America which has some interesting stats. Like some have mentioned on this page, the numbers show a 10,000 year different, although, should some of you want to do some stats/estimates w/ the numbers, I'm all ears.

Every 650,000 years it goes off, we're at year 640,000. There's been 140 events over 16 million years. Now, I obviously wonder what's the give and take as per years with those numbers. Should it be spot on, we're not overdue, maybe it just releases magma energy every so often, I don't know.

...we have no idea how long this process goes on before there either is an eruption or the inflow of molten rock stops and the caldera deflates again." In other words, something is afoot, but no techniques exist to forecast what comes next. The prediction is easier for single-channel, cone volcanoes. At a caldera such as Yellowstone, the magma could suddenly blow through at any number of locations. "We use the term 'restless' to describe these systems," Prof Smith said.

Also, checking out this Science Daily article, these are some facts that are a little fearful. Plus, one of the scientists goes on to talk about needing "independent research" into YS's activity.

The upward movement of the Yellowstone caldera floor -- almost 3 inches per year for the past 3 years -- is more than 3 times greater than ever observed since such measurements began in 1923, says the study in the Nov. 9 issue of Science, geophysics postdoctoral associate Chang....

Yellowstone is North America's largest volcanic field, produced by a "hotspot" -- a gigantic plume of hot and molten rock -- that begins at least 400 miles beneath Earth's surface and rises to 30 miles underground, where it widens to about 300 miles across.

He says that Yellowstone's recent upward motion may seem small, but is twice as fast as the average rate of horizontal movement along California's San Andreas fault.

Conventional surveying of Yellowstone began in 1923. Measurements showed the caldera floor rose 40 inches during 1923-1984, and then fell 8 inches during 1985-1995.

Seems like there isn't much as per separate studies into this area of the U.S. One of those articles mentioned the parke itself is 925 miles in size.

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this thing truly scares me...i have watches several documentaries on this and it is just plain freaky....the whole friggin park is the caldera...i mean it is a monster....
the ground is rising, the water is getting warmer....this dude is cranking up....granted, it could take a year or 100 years but WHEN this thing goes, life in the US is gonna be all but gone.....
it is going to change the entire world..the entire planet temp would be off cause of all the debris.
sunlight won't get through.

just gonna be a bad scene...

reply to post by Boondock78


BD78, you live near the parke?

I hear ya about a ruined US, but like I posted, it's still in a 10k year window, should anyone have a math head to do those figures on a true average, that'd be appreciated, I tend to doubt the "official" version when the gov't repeats, "no imminent threat" over and over.

The size of the underground aspect is what's the killer, I didn't realize how much is active below, and it not being a volcano, that's where my worry is -- even on the US east coast!

reply to post by HimWhoHathAnEar


No.

But if anyone is going around teaching people that an earthquake knocked the Earth off its axis which significantly changed weather is a moron.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is no evidence to suggest Yellowstone is going to blow anytime soon, and even then, there is no evidence to suggest that any eruption will be close to VEI 8.

I have a question for you guys. If there were a steam explosion which formed a 5km crater at Yellowstone, what would you think? Well, just that happened over 10000 years ago. If ANYONE is going to suggest that uplift is a sign of a massive eruption, then they are simply scare mongering.

Although the quick uplift is worthy of research. It is HARDLY a sign of an impending Eruption. Uplift and downlift happens on a regular basis on nearly all volcanoes, and even if there were an eruption, there is nothing to suggest it will be VEI 8 or even VEI 5.

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reply to post by newage2012


I disagree!!!! A partial blow is possible and survivable. Drain that lake? Evacuate YNP during the next solar max? Store a little extra food, just in case ?

With Yellowstone being a Supervocano my understanding is 1200 miles all around will be destroyed quite quickly if it blows. Things will not be pretty.

My worry is that our Government has buried radio active materials in areas that would be effected if it blows so you can see where I am going with this.

I have watched the web cams in the Yellowstone area and on the Old Faithful webcam I have seem UFO's flying by in the morning hours. Our family from above has been helping to control what they can to make things less volitale for us if/when the time approaches. When many volcanos start erupting at the same time there is a reason for it.



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Well if ya think about it.....we are in fact long overdue so who knows....only time will tell...........

Where do you get your information we are long overdue?

This is quoted from USGS.gov

"First of all, one cannot present recurrence intervals based on only two values. It would be statistically meaningless. But for those who insist... let's do the arithmetic. The three eruptions occurred 2.1 million, 1.3 million and 0.64 million years ago. The two intervals are thus 0.8 and 0.66 million years, averaging to a 0.73 million-year interval. Again, the last eruption was 0.64 million years ago, implying that we are still about 90,000 years away from the time when we might consider calling Yellowstone overdue for another caldera-forming eruption. Nevertheless, we cannot discount the possibility of another such eruption occurring some time in the future, given Yellowstone's volcanic history and the continued presence of magma beneath the Yellowstone caldera. "

I am all for being cautious... and I am not trying to be confrontational, as I am new to the board, although I have been a lurker for over a year
But if people will state Yellowstone is overdue, please state where you get your information from?
Personally, I happen to believe USGS as they are the men and women who live, eat, breathe this stuff

Not to mention, nothing here indicates reason for concern
No increased gas emissions
No increased seismic activity

Just wondering

-Marc




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My superiors tell me that YellowStone is going to erupt in 2012. It is true.
Yes 2012 is the year when the Earth farts. When Earth farts, humans die.








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I wouldn't vacation there in August, 2012 or 2011. Second week? 12th, 13th, 14th
( I'm spitballing here, folks. But have had some hits in past, and many, many misses)


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Originally posted by Solarskye
This video shows what would happen if yellowstone errupts. Very scrary thought and I'm right in the line of fire. ( Tennessee )

Countdown To Doomsday

Did you notice that video, "Turkish Star Wars", that comes up in Google's search bar with that video?? Oh man is that hilarious. It's like a cheesy 1980's Turkish made mish mash bootleg film that is like a cross between Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Flash Gordon and Ultraman. Alot of its portions are straight up bootlegged clips and audio from US films, but then it goes more into their own actors and scenes. The editing of used in it is out of control.
Turkish Star Wars (1982) (eng. subtitles)
That's some raw entertainment there lol


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reply to post by infinite


that and, the whole global cooling thing

mathematical averages are only an indicator,they do not actually reflect the level of volcanic activity.

the only way to know if its going to blow is to analyse the local volcanic information.

just keep an eye on it id say.

The way I see it...

if the original blast was so large due to extreme pressure under the earths first few layers, those first few layers are simply gone now. If pressure begins building again, it will simply leak out, rather than causing a high pressure explosion.

The US has nothing to worry about regarding Yellowstone. It may erupt, but it will resemble a freshly healed wound cracking back open, than an explosion.

reply to post by johnsky


I wish I could be as rosy as you are, but according to wikipedia, the LAST eruption-the Lava Creek tuff eruption, blanketed most of North America in ash. Not good.

en.wikipedia.org...