Jaxa.jp: Incredible High Definition Video of the Moon Taken by a Japanese Spacecraft

Most excellent, thank you.
Will have fun looking around this.

I sense a disturbance in the Force...ah yes...somewhere, Hoagland is dry-humping a computer screen.

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The exact moment in time where the Second Generation LO-3-84M become "unavailable" was the day after I caught him short (with 10 million people listening on C2C) with the "Space Port" on the far side (Apollo photograph AS8-12-2209).

I am not sure if that was the same interview where the "soul catcher" and "no I don't agree but we are on the same page" came into it but it is my speculation that he did not want that image bandied around with a "soul catcher" label on it.

No offence but it seems to be more directly connected, just my observation.

Originally posted by FreeThinkerIdealist
I don't know, if you ask me, the whole video looks quite artificial. Animated sequences in movies from years ago look better than this, so do current video games. It is quite disappointing, and ... definitely not 'HD'. Maybe they haven't shot in HD yet?

This looks like a poorly rendered game ... Playstation one ... maybe PS2 in its early stages.

Maybe my expectations are too high ... but I have been watching some 1080i tv and playing 1080i games ... and my monitor isn't too shabby either ... this was quite a disappointment. Hope better comes out in the future (if this even IS video from the satellite)

The local small college in our town operates a relatively powerful "amateur-type" observatory, and they regularly organize open-houses for the local public. I've seen the moon on many occasion through that telescope, and I assure you this is EXACTLY what it looks like.

You may say that this looks artificial, but I must respectively disagree with you.

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Yes! The Japanese are so "high tech" that I'm surprised at the poor resolution of these pix. Maybe the moon's atmosphere is getting in the way. (tip of the hat to John Lear). Maybe there's an internationally agreed conspiracy to just release fuzzy pix without color. Everyone seems to want a piece of the lunar action. Why would the Japanese, and now the Germans be interested in a dead pockmarked moon with no immediate known (or made known) ability to do mining and bring home the reward? there has to be more there than a lifeless, worthless, atmospher-depleted moon to justify the expenditure. And yes, I agree, after seeing the "connect the dots" overlays and animations, I see what appears to be some structures and roads. John Lear's CD has the best renderings, IMHO. Let's keep looking and discussing.

Originally posted by mentalempire

Well, at least the Earth doesn't have one whole side that's completely desolate of life. (Not that I'm saying that the far side has life, either, it doesn't).

I would say from space, it may appear so. One half of the earth appears to be completely water, minus Hawaii which is not that large. Play with Google Earth and see for yourself. In fact, it is hard to tell we are here at all from space. Check out the Live ISS feed the play on HD Theatre channel all the time ... you can't see cities even though it is flying over Africa ... and I swear the image changes drastically ... but that is for another thread.





BadWolf ... I understand what you are saying ... it still doesn't negate the fact that my 360 displays more impressive images than that ... even if the framrates are similar Where is the uncompressed version for people with 10 Mbps or higher connections?



It is even scarier if it does look like that through an observatory telescope ... if I was looking through one and saw stuff that looked like that ... I wouldn't believe my eyes and think we were in a Matrix. Jagged edges, just a horrible looking section of film.


I know compression ... but still. It shouldn't make it look THAT bad. Although I don't see the moon morphing into a reptilian I can find you a clip from a game released over 10 years ago that has a better quality moon. I can show you stuff from today that would blow that away.


I guess I am saying, if this is what it can do ... what a waste of money and resources. If that is all they are going to show us, and they have better, what a disappointment ... AND fuel to a CT fire.


I was excited by the title of this thread but not the video. That was neither incredible nor high definition ... it may have been of the moon (if it isn't polygons, pixel shaders, and a graphic engine with anti-aliasing and anisotopic filtering turned off) and it was definitely a video.



So far, to me, just another over-hyped event and my confidence in any space agency has fell once again. I miss my innocent days when NASA was a dream career and I thought space travel would be something we would do for fun by the time I was middle-aged.

I will wait for the next thread to say they have an hd video ... then hope it is real but prepare for another disappointment. Not the poster's fault what is released.

Hi,
excuse me for possibly stupid question, why there are no stars in this Japanese film?
Recently there was a good doccumentary film on Russian TV major channell in fact proving that there IS someone on the Moon.
I will look for a link as there are some hi-fi Moon filming and photo footage only it's in Russian language.

Yeah, at last it's here, if somene have the moment to see,
you're welcome to the Russian tube (RuTube) -
Moon - Another Reality

p.s. on 5 min 20'' of this film Russian astronomer shows his photo with huge shining round shape object right above the Moon surface.
Also another anomalies on the Moon surface are shown in the form of pictures.

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I must agree with you on that Mr. Lear. Hoagland absolutey loves the sound of his own voice. And he does hog it. He should not get close to any reflecting pools. Might become a permanent Greek mythology.

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Now call me hard to please, but RuTube is hard to believe. I mean I scarcely accept anything on YouTube unless I can find it from another source. Since I neither speak or understand Russian, I doubt that I'll be comfortable accepting too much there.

Still, it is a new source. Gotta' give you that.

Some really wonderful visual images. Thanks to everyone for sharing!

So then its true that there is a forest on the darkside of the moon! I knew it!!...Movie Amazon women from the moon movie was right!! LOL

Originally posted by lukas_devita
Hi,
excuse me for possibly stupid question, why there are no stars in this Japanese film?
Recently there was a good doccumentary film on Russian TV major channell in fact proving that there IS someone on the Moon.
I will look for a link as there are some hi-fi Moon filming and photo footage only it's in Russian language.

The moon pictures in that documentary actually looks pretty good. Very different from the crap we get from NASA. Im watching it now... there is a man showing a rock and talking about it in Russian at the moment. I wish I understood Russian.


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Originally posted by Another Vodka
Why would the Japanese, and now the Germans be interested in a dead pockmarked moon with no immediate known (or made known) ability to do mining and bring home the reward?

It's an excuse to show off their national technical expertise in order to attract business. Because of advancements in technology, it's gotten a lot less expensive and difficult to do something like this, which used to take billions of dollars and a huge national effort. It's showy and attention-getting. A perfect PR stunt.

No, unless you believe Mr. Lear that the Moon is chock full of gold and fairy dust, there's not a whole lot there that would justify the huge costs of setting up a mining and Earth return operation. Helium 3?

Hi,
An update from JAXA:

KAGUYA (SELENE)
Image Taking of Earth-Rise by HDTV

November 13, 2007 (JST)
Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)
NHK (Japan Broadcasting Corporation)


The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) and NHK (Japan Broadcasting Corporation) have successfully performed the world's first high-definition image taking of an Earth-rise* by the lunar explorer "KAGUYA" (SELENE,) which was injected into a lunar orbit at an altitude of about 100 km on October 18, 2007 (Japan Standard Time. Following times and dates are all JST.)

The Apollo project was the first mission to take images of Earth rising over the Moon. The KAGUYA successfully shot high-definition images of the Earth-rise showing an impressive image of the blue Earth which was the only floating object in pitch-dark space. These are the world's first high-definition earth images taken from about 380,000 km away from the earth in space.

The image taking was performed by the KAGUYA's onboard high definition television (HDTV) for space use developed by NHK. The moving image data acquired by the KAGUYA was received at the JAXA Usuda Deep Space Center, and processed by NHK.

The satellite was confirmed to be in good health through telemetry data received at the Usuda station.

* Note: we use the expression "Earth-rise" in this press release, but the Earth-rise is a phenomenon seen only from satellites that travel around the Moon, such as the KAGUYA and the Apollo space ship. The Earth-rise cannot be observed by a person who is on the Moon as they can always see the Earth at the same position.

Moving image of the Moon shot by the HDTV camera

Images:

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Originally posted by Nohup

No, unless you believe Mr. Lear that the Moon is chock full of gold and fairy dust, there's not a whole lot there that would justify the huge costs of setting up a mining and Earth return operation. Helium 3?

Thanks for the post Nohup. I think you may have my gold mine confused with the moon. In any case the mine is closed for reclamation at this time.

I think you may have the fairy dust comment confused with Sleepers thread. He is the one who had the fairy dust.

There is so much information here on ATS it is easy to get confused and then make erroneous posts based on that confusion.

But your posts are nevertheless welcome.

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Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. You do a fantastic job of bringing us some wonderful images, internos.

I wish I had your skill at finding these things. It is pictures like this that will inspire our children, and their children, to go to space, and to make it home.

UPDATE: Jaxa press release
KAGUYA (SELENE)
Observation by Terrain Camera (TC)
and Multi-band Imager (MI)

November 16, 2007 (JST)
Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) carried out an observation using two onboard sensors of the Moon Explorer "KAGUYA" (SELENE,) the Terrain Camera (TC) and Multi-band Imager (MI,) on November 3, 2007, processed the acquired data, and confirmed they were functioning properly. The observation was part of the initial functional verification of the KAGUYA, which had been injected into the Moon's orbit at an altitude of about 100 km. In a global first, both three-dimensional (stereo) observations of the Moon by the TC with a 10-meter aerial resolution and a multi-band observations by the MI with a 20-meter aerial resolution of the Moon's backside and near polar were taken.

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There's some interesting stuff here: here there's a comparison between the image taken by the KAGUYA TC cut out from the TC's first image data (the area encircled by the yellow dot square) and the image shot by the high aerial resolution camera onboard the Clementine Satellite




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And here, there's a comparison between the KAGUYA MI image and the Clementine ultraviolet/visible band camera image (enlargement of the area encircled by the yellow dot square)







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Internos, excellent reporting. Would you be so kind as to break this down so that the differences are more easily recognized by us all?

And, to your understanding, what new areas of knowledge are benefitted?

Thanks.

reply to post by NGC2736

Terrain Camera (TC)
The Terrain Camera (TC) can observe the day-time side of the Moon using two cameras that respectively face the slightly diagonal front and back sides of the straight down direction of the satellite. It can take three-dimensional (stereo) images of the Moon's globe with a world-leading super high definition of 10 m. At the initial functional verification of the TC on November 3, 2007, three-dimensional view observations were successfully performed of the summer season around the South Pole of the Moon:

Comparison between JAXA image and CLEMENTINE image of the same area:


JAXA image


CLEMENTINE image


For example, the smaller craters (10-90 meters size) and the internal structure of the bigger crater, which are visible in the image taken by the KAGUYA TC, aren't in the one taken by Clementine: the difference is clearly visible to the naked eye.

Multi-band Imager (MI)
The Multi-band Imager (MI) is observation equipment to measure mineral distribution by analyzing the reflection of nine observation bands of visible to near infrared band widths. The initial functional verification for the MI was held on November 3, 2007, and the first Moon observation was successfully performed. By comparing different band images (comparative calculation), the MI can acquire detailed geological information including mineral distribution as well as distribution of material that has been dug up by crater formation.
The MI has an aerial resolution of 20 meters (maximum), thus its resolution was improved by one digit compared to the former Moon explorers.

Now, this one

is a Kaguya Multi-band Imager (750 nm single-band image with 20 m resolution)

this other one

is a Clementine UV-VIS camera (100 m resolution)




More infos on Kaguya mission can be found here:
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More infos on Clementine Project can be found here:
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www.lpi.usra.edu...

Hope it helps