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Twin survives several abortion attempts, refuses to die...

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posted on Nov, 4 2007 @ 08:47 PM
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Twin survives several abortion attempts, refuses to die...


www.dailymail.co.uk

They say twins share a strong bond - but the one between Gabriel and Ieuan Jones was unbreakable.

When doctors found that Gabriel was weaker than his brother, with an enlarged heart,and believed he was going to die in the womb, his mother Rebecca Jones had to make a heartbreaking decision.
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posted on Nov, 4 2007 @ 08:47 PM
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I have never told anyone here about this, however, given the smiles this story gave me, I felt I'd share it.

I went through my own personal abortion ordeal back in 2001. At the time, I was only 20 years old and felt that it was the best decision. Since I never really had any moral problems with abortion, I went ahead and ok'ed it and, soon, the deed was done.

Since that day, I have NEVER been able to shake it. Sure, it's not a dominant thought anymore, but it's always there, nagging at me in the back of my mind. The baby that SHOULD have been.

That being what it is, please don't EVER go through this yourself without PLENTY of thinking. I'm not trying to preach, but I promise that you WILL live with it forever in one way or another.

That being said, on to the story at hand.


I certainly understand why the mother had to make the terrible decision she had to make, but, I'm glad for her and the child that the baby fought enough to make it into this world anyway. I hope things continue to look up for them.


Jasn

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posted on Nov, 4 2007 @ 11:43 PM
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Just look at those little guys!


In the first pic, little Gabriel seems to be saying, "In your face, you stupid doctors, just look at me now!"

In the second pic his brother seems to be saying, "Can you believe it?! Those idiot doctors tried to kill my little brother"

Wonderful, and cautionary tale, SimiusDei, thanks for sharing it with us!



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 01:02 AM
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Indeed, they are cute as all hell.


In all fairness to the docs, the article does state that it was the belief that a problem could affect all 3 of them if the abortion wasn't performed. Luckily, all the pieces landed where they should have been and everything worked out.


Just goes to show ya, doctors don't know everything.


Jasn



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 01:15 AM
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Praise the Lord for one of his tiny miricles, or should I say two


Thanks for posting this thread, those kids are just too cute


Best thread ever



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 01:34 AM
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I don't believe in god, so I guess I will have to say that the little one had a hell of a will power on him. He must have caught one of the stone fortified souls.


Jasn



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 05:31 AM
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To each there own, good article either way



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 08:11 AM
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Hurrah! ........
.......welcome to our world.
The beckoning hand of fate has certainly intervened here.
A classic case of 'it was meant to be'.
I do not acknowledge that divine intervention was at work here. I accept that this little chap portayed the strength of will to survive.
A happy ending.....yes. May live a long and happy life, little fellow!



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 08:16 AM
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I believe in fate also, we all come into this world with a purpose to experience humanity and human life.

I guess the littler one had a purpose and he by all means was going to get his way.

I am glad he is doing fine it will be nice to keep track of him to see what is so important that he needed to be here now and beat all odds to get his way.



[edit on 5-11-2007 by marg6043]



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by SimiusDei

Just goes to show ya, doctors don't know everything.




no, they don't know everything...i don't know why people think doctors are supposed to know everything...

this is a strange case but it seems to me at least that if they had NOT tried to do this abortion and just let the pregnancy go, then they all may have died.


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As a last resort they divided Mrs Jones's placenta so that when Gabriel died, it would allow Ieuan to survive. Mrs Jones said: "I put my hands on my stomach thinking of Gabriel. It was devastating. I had said my goodbyes."

But the next morning Mrs Jones felt Gabriel kicking. A scan showed his heart was still beating. She said: "No one could quite believe it."

Gabriel hung on, and his enlarged heart started to reduce in size. He also gained weight.

Mrs Jones said: "They thought it may be because the placenta had been divided. Inadvertently, it had evened out the distribution of nutrition between them, allowing Gabriel to survive.'
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emphasis mine......good thing they tried to do this.....saved all three instead of just two of them or instead of all three of them dying...



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 03:29 PM
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Hmmm.

Maybe we should set up some sort of "watch" over this child here on ATS as it grows up.

Seriously, to find out what purpose it survived all that to fulfill.



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 03:39 PM
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i hate to be the one to say this but...has anyone checked that little scrapper for a little three digit birthmark anywhere???
(just thinking outloud)



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 03:44 PM
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What a wonderful ending to that story! Those babies are seriously cute! Total miracle he survived. God has a great plan for them, just like the rest of us. : )



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by wrangell76
God has a great plan for them, : )



how are we so sure it is God that has the plan for the little guy?
like i said..check for the 3 digit birthmark.....



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 04:46 PM
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Great article and thanks for posting it here!

I think that I will keep this link and the names of the boys somewhere just in case! I prefer to think that it is for something good, though


I just question why they didn't just divide the placenta to begin with instead of immediately trying to kill Gabriel to save Ieuan and their mom? If nothing else that should be noted as a possible earlier attempt instead of a last ditch try in some medical journal article so that the knowledge will be passed on.

Though it is kind of funny...I wonder if his mother had picked out the name Gabriel before he was born?



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 05:09 PM
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great topic

dont know how to make this longer then a one liner post
as nothing i can say can reflect what i feel (which is a good feeling)



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 05:44 PM
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Just goes to show us how life can survive and break out with it's own miracle. Life will find a way to flourish if it's given the chance. I think the doctors splitting the placenta gave that life the chance it needed to survive.
And now let's hope he grows up and keeps Denying Ignorance.


[edit on 11/5/2007 by Solarskye]



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 06:10 PM
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Wow! People are already claiming here in this very thread to "check for the 3 digit mark" - Why am I not surprised?

Seriously. There's nothing that's out of place here. Sometimes Doctors simply cannot effectively do a procedure, it doesn't mean something or someone is blocking them from doing so. That's an absurd thought and completely irrational.

Life is pretty unpredictable and head strong. How else do you think life evolved back when this earth resembled what Titan looks like today? Life will find a way.

It's the nature of things.



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 07:21 PM
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check the 3 digit code!! check the code, check the code!!! AAAHHHH!!! CHECK THE 3 DIGITS!!!!on the back of the neck! behind the ear check it, check it!!!



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 07:22 PM
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The important thing here is that MDs issued a death warrant on this little guy and not only did he survive whatever they had diagnosed, but he survived their deliberate attempt to end his life.

Regardless of which side of the birth canal this procedure took place it was an attempted infanticide.



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