Free Floating Planets Discovered! Could they Be Under Intelligent Control?

At the outset, I’d like to mention that this would seem incredible, but what do we know of what’s going on out there in this vast universe? This theory is so extreme that some may fry me with a GRB! That said, let’s proceed….

At the outset, let's connect with what Dr Michio Kaku has to say on Civilization Types in the universe:

Dr Michio Kaku’s Civilization Ladder

A Type 1 Civililization is one that is truly a planetary society, which has mastered all forms of terrestrial energy.

A Type 2 civilization is a civilization who have an energy output of a small star. They would be so advanced that they could build a sphere around their planet to maximize their energy output.

A Type 3 civilization is so advanced that they have begun colonizing other star systems. Their energy output is massive compared to ours. A civilization this advanced would be able to bend space and time at will. They would probably be capable of inter-dimensional travel and even time travel.

Probably, there’s even a Type 4 civilization, so advanced that it could be indulging in space engineering, terraforming planets by changing their orbits around their parent suns. What of the Quasars and Pulsars that we’ve discovered? Could they have something to do with this space engineering?

Astronomer John Barrows of the University of Sussex writes, “Suppose that we extend the classification upwards. Members of these hypothetical civilizations of Type IV, V, VI, ... and so on, would be able to manipulate the structures in the universe on larger and larger scales, encompassing groups of galaxies, clusters, and superclusters of galaxies.” Civilizations beyond Type III may have enough energy to escape our dying universe via holes in space.
www.mkaku.org...

Having said that, let’s proceed to a BBC article about the ‘Mystery of free floating planets’….


A possible planet free-floating in Orion
Image: Science
Courtesy: BBC

Astronomers have discovered 18 planet-like objects, drifting through space in a part of the constellation of Orion. If they are planets, these "free floaters" will pose a challenge to theories about how planets form. "The formation of young, free-floating, planetary-mass objects like these are difficult to explain”, said Maria Rosa Zapatero Osorio, of the Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias, in Tenerife, Spain.

Using visible and infrared light-detecting sensors on telescopes in Spain, the Canary Islands, and Hawaii, they found 18 objects whose relatively dim, reddish light suggested they could be planetary.
news.bbc.co.uk...

So no one seems sure as to what they are, and unable to explain how they float free. Now the question is, if they do not conform to the paradigms of planetary formation, could these be under intelligent control of a Type IV or V civilization? It would be impossible to conjecture why they’re doing it.

Probably Star Wars? Now this is bordering on pure science fiction! But read on…

There have been unexplained explosions in galaxies, witnessed by numerous astronomers.

Five or six years ago an article in the Herald Tribune said there had been at least 80 unexplained explosions in deep space during the last decade alone! This had baffled many of the leading scientists and astronomers who were at a complete loss to explain the phenomenon! According to the article the largest of these explosions had occurred "180,000 light years away in the large Magellanic Cloud outside our galaxy"!

The article also related that, "Ray Klebesadel, a leading scientist at Los Alamos said, “This event was definitely not a supernova!" According to him the explosion was more like a nuclear bomb blast!

This was a view also echoed by a nuclear physicist Stanton T. Friedmann who declared: "Tremendous activity of this sort could well be life out there involved in a war"! Another quote is from James Oberg of Houston who is on record as saying: “It is a legitimate theory that star wars may be taking place!"
Here

So what's happening here? George Lucas' Star Wars could be based on a story written from almost forgotten memories, events that had actually taken place...in a galaxy far far away!

Is it so incredible? Is it science fiction? It's a huge universe out there, billions of years old that could have civilizations billions of years ahead of us technologically. So then, have these free moving planets been made into vast alien spaceships on a star wars related or some other mission?

Were some of our moons in the Solar System moved here under intelligent control too? Were they large space ships? Check out the anomalous nature of many of them. I don’t have the space to list them out here.

But remember, “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
William Shakespeare

Cheers!

More refs:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
ufo.whipnet.org...
www.mkaku.org...
www.mkaku.org...




[edit on 4-11-2007 by mikesingh]

The theory about the "unexplained" explosions is interesting, but surely these people are somewhat confused.

The explosions come from a variety of sources, all of them significant distances from Earth and all significant distances from each other.

In short, they all occured millenia ago and several thousand years apart from each other.

If it is an interstellar war, then it not only happened eons ago, but was a bloody long war too boot!

I don't buy that idea. Any races that has such powerful weaponry would either not fight a war at all (as in MAD) or totally wipe each other out in a very short period of time. i couldn't see them having a go at each other for thousands of years and only occasionally destroying a star system.

Yeah, that scientist is a decent writer, I read most of Parallel Worlds where that 'levels of civilization' theory is taken from. Harnessing the power of suns, energy of the solar system should be the logical procession in space exploration.

Very interesting as i love this sort of stuff, have two points/queries. So a type one civililisation is one that is truly a planetary society, which has mastered all forms of terrestrial energy. So i suppose earth doesnt fall into that category, as far as im concerned that is but who really knows what the leading militaries have up their sleeves. I would have liked to have seen the basic civilisations leading up to the ones stated.

Secondly (and maybe unrelated), check out this interview (maybe there is a connection between this interview and Orion?) projectcamelot.org...

You can watch the interview here projectcamelot.org... (seventh link down in list).

Let me know what you think =]

Edited spelling mistake =p

[edit on 4-11-2007 by rapturas]

Originally posted by rapturas
Very interesting as i love this sort of stuff, have two points/queries. So a type one civililisation is one that is truly a planetary society, which has mastered all forms of terrestrial energy. So i suppose earth doesnt fall into that category.

Where we are concerned, as what MK says, we haven't even reached type I as yet which is still a long way off! So you can imagine what a Type IV or V civilization is capable off!

And yes, rapturas, I've checked out Dan's interviews some time ago. Interesting stuff! If you notice, there's a a chord that connects all this together. Something like the theory of everything!!

Cheers!

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lol I couldnt imagine (with my feeble human mind) what a type IV civilisation would be like. Well, to some degree i could but i always try to envisage what they would look like, how they would act etc. I would assume anything higher than type 3 would be of a much higher consciousness than us and would already occupy a higher dimension (as predicted in string theory =oD). Who knows, hurts my lillal mind even trying to think about it lol.

I only discovered that stargate interview yesterday (and swiftly informed undo =]), I managed to watch part of the Dan Sherman interview which was the first one I saw but my connection is too slow to download the footage (cuts off at 20mb’s for some reason =[)

Knowing that the stargate is possible (as far as im concerned) it ties in so much of the missing blanks in our civilisation. Eg, why the ancient Egyptians where so fixated on the stars, the belt of Orion being one of them. The three pyramids of Giza mimic the belt of Orion according to Graham Hancock and many others. Even shafts in some pyramids are pointing towards certain constellations, makes you wonder why =] For more info, check out the thread titled Stargates are real by Undo (mikesingh, I know you know about that thread hehe)

Originally posted by stumason
I don't buy that idea. Any races that has such powerful weaponry would either not fight a war at all (as in MAD) or totally wipe each other out in a very short period of time. i couldn't see them having a go at each other for thousands of years and only occasionally destroying a star system.

Check out the Asteroid belt! Was it a planet that was destroyed? OK, here's something more. But let me clarify that it's only conjecture....But it could have happened!

Star Wars

Eons ago, a war ensued between some of these advanced civilizations. ‘Star Wars’ in the present day context. Probably this war of attrition and domination continued for thousands of years until one of the races was pushed to the brink of annihilation and withdrew to the outer reaches of the galaxy, into the Solar System.

They fled in huge space ships, which probably are some of the moons in the Solar System, that bear mute testimony to this exodus. They settled on Mars, Planet X (The Asteroid Belt), the Earth and the Kuiper belt, similar to the Asteroid Belt, beyond the orbit of Uranus. They constructed vast underground cities on planets and some of their moons to avoid detection.

Then the pursuers finally caught up with them. The war continued and Planet X (probably the seat of power) was finally destroyed (which is now the Asteroid Belt) and Mars laid waste. Another small planet or a large moon was destroyed which is now known as the Kuiper Belt, situated beyond Uranus. And then war finally came to Earth where the pursuit ended. Atlantis was destroyed and with it the last vestiges of an ancient but advanced civilization.
Link

Cheers!

All very exciting stuff, but wild guessing none the less. It is far more probable that the Asteroid belt and the Kuiper belt are just remnants of either a planetary collisions in the early Solar System, or just left over building blocks.

Me thinks the author has been watching Star Gate Atlantis and took it a bit too literally. Good show, but still it's only a story.

here i think is a good question.......

if there is no sun, where is the light coming from, that is beaming from the planets....?

Where are the planets recieving the light?

I like your title. "Under Intelligent Control?"

I sure hope so.....this one doesn't appear to be...

Originally posted by andre18
here i think is a good question.......
if there is no sun, where is the light coming from, that is beaming from the planets....?
Where are the planets recieving the light?

Yeah andre, that's a good question! But IF they are under intelligent control, then surely they would have thought out a mechanism to heat and light the 'planet' probably from the inside. Remember we're talking of Type IV and higher civilizations!

i guess i'm one of those odd-balls that went ahead and read the report on these 'planets'???

way near the last part the astronomers level with the readers, that these 18 objects in a small area, are likely brown dwarf stars

these dwarf stars range in size from 5X Jupiter to ~20X Jupiter sized objects.....which qualifies these 18 new-born (est 5 million years)
objects as planet sized objects... rather than classified as "stars".

basically the 'creative' writers of the article, spinned the facts towards
the sensational.... for their own reasons
(rate this story response? which the internet has created...
which they hope will translate into job security, promotion, raises??? )


i applaud the OP (mikesingh) for picking up the ball & running with it, here on ATS

There is always such wild speculation concerning newly discovered space objects and events. Supernovas, anybody? Sound familiar?

i"m surprised no-one has mentioned this yet, but we all need to consider Iapetus in this debate.

www.enterprisemission.com...

It is suggested that Iapetus is not natural but is indeed an artificial moon (of Saturn).

It has a bizarre 'rim' or 'join' running along its equator in a perfectly straight line, it appears to have straight edges, is not a proper sphere and many more anomalies.

It basically looks like the Death Star out of Star Wars would after hundreds of thousands of years of disrepair.

reply to post by srsen


For some reason, it reminds me of a giant rotten egg.

Does anyone know how old Saturn is in comparision to Earth?

I ask this because it's commonly thought that Mars is a dead planet, being many thousands of millenia older than our own planet - i'm wondering whether it's possible there's some sort of mega-ancient technology in that Iapetus thing - what srsen says is valid, it looks as if something on the inside took a giant mallet and hit the side of it or something.

Anyone got any scientific data on how that could happen?

It's just all theory with no proof what so ever. Alot of scientist believe the orion nebule is the birth place of stars and maybe even some planets that didn't make it to star size. It's like Darwin's theory of evolution that has yet to be proved. Now that death star article and pictures are fasinating. I remember reading that a long time ago and still freak out when I see the death star and Iapetus. Maybe someday we will all know the truth and become something more than earth bearing humans. But just because someone says this and that about races and even has a bunch of theories on the matter still doesn't make it true. Like always I could be wrong but I will wait and think of all the possibilities out there in our universe unstead of believing in them.

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That's right srsen. Iapetus is strange. Could it have been an outpost? How about Phobos? Check it out here

More...


Courtesy: Aliensurgeon


Monolith on Mars
Courtesy: Efrain Palermo



Structure on Eros
Courtesy: Rense.com

Enlarged:


A gun emplacement? Or an artificial building? The
extended shadow on the right of the object is
probably of a projection you can see toward the top
right of the object. Note the sharply defined rectangular
shadow at the bottom right of the object.

There's more, but that would do for now!!

Cheers!