American Foreign Legion

Would you guys agree with an American Foreign Legion ??

Same as the french legion, except it would be much larger, currently they have 8500 soldiers in the legion, i was thinking the american legion would be more along the lines of 85000...

Obviousely all officers would be american, foreigners would get no higher rank than seargent, and they would be very combat orientated, as well as relief missions across the world...

And in return for serving for 4 years, you get US citizenship

What do you think??

No way. We don't need anymore resources for war at all. We should focus the same energy towards bringing home our existing forces and working on strengthening our infastructure here at home. If anything, we should have some sort of United Peace Force. Citizenship through volunteering your heart and mind to peaceful efforts all around the world.

i think we need to go back to the old west days... everyone with a gun and land... dont cross your fellow american and you wont get shot. sure would cut down on alot of different crimes... bet that.

Would you not rather send foreigners into the most dangerous combat situations than your own guys ??

I mean face it,, americas wars are far from over...

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Life is life. I don't want to send anyone to die regardless where he's from. War is a dated and so is anybody dying for ulterior reasons. No one should feel forced to put their life on the line, especially not for a country of who should conduct itself in a way that avoids these kind of situations.

The point is these people in the American Foreign Legion WANT to be there for a reason, to gain US citizenship, so if they are willing to die for this, should it matter ?

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Yeah, it should, because um.... THEY'RE A PERSON. They want to become a U.S. citizen, not a deadman who failed at gaining his citizenship for a country that wouldn't think twice about throwing him/her to the wolves. Nobody should have to die or even be put in a conflict in the first place. Like I said, war is dated.

Ok, i can understand your opinion, are there any others who care to share their view on this ??

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Also, take into consideration that those who join the French Foreign Legion are usually running from something from what I understand. That's probably an exaggeration I've picked up from watching television, but I hear that it's littered with criminals, drug users, or foreign AWOL troops. Who know's what the real scenerio is. It would be a dangerous thing for America, the land of the free, home of the brave, to start offering citizenship through indentured military servitude.

And I meant to tell you. Good question, good thread. Give it a few hours and the military buffs are sure to chime in with some really good and informative answers.

Thanks,,

I only mentioned the French legion as something to compare to, yes the french legion has it's bad elements and soldiers that went awol, and people who commited crimes, but im not saying that America should take the same path as the french did, they can screen all candidates, obviousely they shouldn't accept a guy who has a criminal record, or is a drug abuser,,,America can then even afford to be twice as strict in their requirements for these soldiers who wish to enlist.

We almost have a similar program as far as Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands are concerned. I guess if you have so many American flags in your country, you're allowed to die for it. Wild.

People from US territories serve in the same units as someone from New York, Alabama, and California. Except for Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands and Northern Mariana Islands National Guard and Puerto Rico Territorial Guard units there are no separate units for territorial forces in the US military.

Now the British, Spanish, and the French have totally separate units for their colonial forces ex. Bermuda Regiment and the Falkland Islands Defense Force in the British Army, the Spanish Army has the Regulares from Spanish Morocco (Cueta and Mellilla), the French have the Foreign Legion but I also think the French territorial departments also have locally raised units as well such as the Spihis.

Yeah, but the point is creating a force that can go into any combat situation anywhere in the world, and no tbe american, the american people will not make such a big fuss about a war when there an almost no "real" american soldiers involved, just the legion...

Hi Sethdarke,

The American Foreign Legion is what we all knmow as "BlackWater"

Val

Yeah, but blackwater is a mercenary company, im talking about foreigners as US soldiers, as in the french foreign legion here

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Sure, but check the Blackwater operatives nationalities and you will see how foreign they actually are.

Nobody should have to die or even be put in a conflict in the first place.

In an ideal world, that is true. But people also shouldn't die of starvation, be molested or get terminal illnesses, but they do.

Whilst there are ethical issues with creating a foreign legion to, in essence, do the dirty work so Americans don't have to, introducing it as an option for all foreign nationals wishing to join the regular army might work better.

It might also prevent people from viewing it as, as DeadFlagBlues said, "Indentured military servitude"...to gain entry to a country that "wouldn't think twice about throwing him/her to the wolves".

Obviously this cannot be the only way for a person to enter the country (think children, old people and women), but as long as it's primary purpose is not to provide a (dangerous) passage into America, it could be ok.

Yeah blackwater is what U.S like : business & war mixed.The guys from blackwater come from south america for a large part.

An american foreign legion? Hmm why not but i'd still prefer the original to the copy.

And i'd also like to say the Fr. legion doesn't take the real psychos, they take robbers..., guys like that there is a "soldier profile" required.That's what they claim at least.In the lot there are muderers.
I guess "redemption" work because i haven't heard any problems with these guys.

Since we're the shining star of freedoms around the world, having a foreign legion would be exploitation on a massive scale. That's just my opinion and the last one on this thread.

Originally posted by sethdarke
Yeah, but blackwater is a mercenary company, im talking about foreigners as US soldiers, as in the french foreign legion here

The French Foreign Legion could be considered Mercenaries as with a American Foreign Legion.

Also just for information the Spanish also has a Foreign Legion.